Isaiah 42:8 What are your thoughts.

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Is 42:8 I am the Lord; that is My name. And My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. KJV
“I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols. NLT

What is God saying about his glory here and whom will he not give it to? Could he be talking about his Glory (greatness) being given to idols of man or could he be talking about man being his glory and he will not give to another what he gave (will give) to another?

This is a prophecy of the coming of Jesus with salvation and we know that the Glory of the Father is with Jesus the Son. Did Jesus pass that glory on to us which would give this scripture meaning that the Glory of God is given to man through Jesus?

Is this God saying his glory is for him and him alone meaning the Godhead ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) that this glory is only for them and no idols or humans will receive this.
 
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Well long hair is the glory of a woman, so I try to think of that in spiritual terms considering God. The bible says when our good deeds are seen that those who see glorify God who is in heaven, because we do it in His name, not on our own accord. Because we can do no good without God. So I don't think that we are God's glory, but that we reflect God's glory like a diamond reflects light and what is seen is beauty.
 
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iwant2serve said:
Is 42:8 I am the Lord; that is My name. And My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. KJV
“I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols. NLT

What is God saying about his glory here and whom will he not give it to? Could he be talking about his Glory (greatness) being given to idols of man or could he be talking about man being his glory and he will not give to another what he gave (will give) to another?

This is a prophecy of the coming of Jesus with salvation and we know that the Glory of the Father is with Jesus the Son. Did Jesus pass that glory on to us which would give this scripture meaning that the Glory of God is given to man through Jesus?

Is this God saying his glory is for him and him alone meaning the Godhead ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) that this glory is only for them and no idols or humans will receive this.
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How could God give His glory to another?
 
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All glory given by man should go to Him.
 
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How can GOD give His glory to another? That is easy...since it was GOD who initially breathed His very breath into the nostrils of man and thus, created a living creature, complete with a soul and spirit that needs to communicate with it's Creator. Just like the clay pot reflects the creative mind and handiwork of the Potter, any human being can receive GOD's glory by accepting His touch, allowing HIS Holy Spirit to infiltrate mind and body and soul, making that human being totally complete. When we operate in His Holy Spirit, signs and wonders do follow.
 
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I means exactly what it is saying that all Glory belongs to God !!!

We are never to take credit for the things we do as in healing, helping, guidance, and even teaching His word.

For it all comes by God and we are just the vessels chosen to carry His message and healing to others. Without Him we would not have His knowledge given by the Holy Spirit, and we would be stuck in carnal understanding.

Example would be:

Since being on this site I have had a number of people PM me thinking me for the patience, understanding of the Word, and other advice I have given. Each time I have told them to give that thanks to God for without Him I would not be able to share and help them in the way they received !!!

God is to get all the credit, all the time !!!!
 
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pwrnJC said:
How can GOD give His glory to another? That is easy...since it was GOD who initially breathed His very breath into the nostrils of man and thus, created a living creature, complete with a soul and spirit that needs to communicate with it's Creator. Just like the clay pot reflects the creative mind and handiwork of the Potter, any human being can receive GOD's glory by accepting His touch, allowing HIS Holy Spirit to infiltrate mind and body and soul, making that human being totally complete. When we operate in His Holy Spirit, signs and wonders do follow.
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Oh, okay.....
 
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Here is a more interesting view. The word glory means heaviness or weight or heavy imprint and we as humans were made for the glory of God. In being made for God's glory we have his character his image and likeness. Meaning we were created with the to be his glory in the earth by filling the it with the heavy imprint God's character, so we are not to bow down to any other gods in the sense of giving that glory to anything but God.
 
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iwant2serve said:
Here is a more interesting view. The word glory means heaviness or weight or heavy imprint and we as humans were made for the glory of God. In being made for God's glory we have his character his image and likeness. Meaning we were created with the to be his glory in the earth by filling the it with the heavy imprint God's character, so we are not to bow down to any other gods in the sense of giving that glory to anything but God.
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Not that we have, but that we were created to be the expression of God's character, which is His glory.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Not that we have, but that we were created to be the expression of God's character, which is His glory.
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Actually we have his character. We do not have all of them but we do have them.

Meanings if Character
the way someone thinks, feels, and behaves : someone's personality
the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person
moral or ethical quality:
 
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iwant2serve said:
Actually we have his character. We do not have all of them but we do have them.

Meanings if Character
the way someone thinks, feels, and behaves : someone's personality
the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person
moral or ethical quality:
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We've been down this road before. It's HIS character. The “image of God” that we were created in is a derived image...made evident as we allow for the visible expression of the character of God in our behavior.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
We've been down this road before. It's HIS character. The “image of God” that we were created in is a derived image...made evident as we allow for the visible expression of the character of God in our behavior.
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Take time to do word searches on what Image and likeness is you will find they mean character with also means attributes.
 
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iwant2serve said:
Take time to do word searches on what Image and likeness is you will find they mean character with also means attributes.
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God's attributes are who He is in Himself, they are what makes God, God. They are non-transferable.
 
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John 17:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
 
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Grace777x70 said:
John 17:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
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:) What did He give to them? Or Who? By the presence of the Spirit of Christ, we have “Christ in us, the hope of glory” (Col. 1:27). It takes God to be man as God created man to be.
 
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iwant2serve said:
Is 42:8 I am the Lord; that is My name. And My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. KJV
“I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols. NLT

What is God saying about his glory here and whom will he not give it to? Could he be talking about his Glory (greatness) being given to idols of man or could he be talking about man being his glory and he will not give to another what he gave (will give) to another?

This is a prophecy of the coming of Jesus with salvation and we know that the Glory of the Father is with Jesus the Son. Did Jesus pass that glory on to us which would give this scripture meaning that the Glory of God is given to man through Jesus?

Is this God saying his glory is for him and him alone meaning the Godhead ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit) that this glory is only for them and no idols or humans will receive this.
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Very interesting application of " And my glory I will not give to another". We are Gods hand work created in His image so we do give glory all Glory to God for that amen. I do like the point of God seeing us as special to him and I like the point you made about The glory of the Father is with Jesus The Son. And if we are in the son then we too partake in HIS greatness or glory or Come under the shadow of His glory which is not the same as having it but partaking in it.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
John 17:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
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Would this imply that we have the glory of God in us through Jesus as in the heavy imprint in this world?
 
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Grace777x70 said:
what does...."in the heavy imprint in this world" mean?
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When something is heavy in weight is leave an imprint in what is was sitting one. Like Jesus came and left his imprint on the disciples and so on. Or a different culture comes to a different country they still do many things that they sis in that country. For instance many Italians made an imprint on New York, Chicago and other places in the USA. They came here and brought their culture with them and imprinted different areas with their culture.
 
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I suppose one could say that the life of Christ in us with His glory ( which I interpret partly as goodness ) will leave a imprint on this world.


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When something is heavy in weight is leave an imprint in what is was sitting one. Like Jesus came and left his imprint on the disciples and so on. Or a different culture comes to a different country they still do many things that they sis in that country. For instance many Italians made an imprint on New York, Chicago and other places in the USA. They came here and brought their culture with them and imprinted different areas with their culture.
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