Islam is evil

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Kerry

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How can I say this and be politically correct. HHMMM

If a hog eats slop, then his brother will eat as well, even though the slop will wrench your stomach. Then he will teach his children to eat the same slop. If anyone tells him that his slop is slop, he will use his teeth to defend his slop.

The slop is Islam.
 
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Think Cycel think, They will not have anything to do with a pig. Forget our faiths for the moment. when you fight an enemy you look for their weak points. If you know Islam, they are condemned to hell if they touch a pig or any part of a pig. Our honorable leaders know this. Why not use it?
Sometimes I feel like Charlie Brown attempting to explain Halloween to Linus.
 
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Kerry

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Sometimes I feel like Charlie Brown attempting to explain Halloween to Linus.

That's exactly how I fell, why not try it, But our objective is to be the police and erry body hates the police.
 
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That's exactly how I fell, why not try it, But our objective is to be the police and erry body hates the police.
We are in a difficult situation, for sure, but I am still not clear on how dropping pig parts will help. You think they will fall into a panic? Quit eating? What? Give me a clear example of what you think will happen. Invent a scenario so I will understand exactly what you mean.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Hang around here long enough, next it'll be your brain, a progressive inability to distinguish the Old Testament from the New Testament, or the Koran. The terminal stages are threads like "Who Killed Goliath?" or "Is Mary the Biological Mother of Jesus?" or, put on your yarmulke and get out your sharpest scissors, just in case, "Christians are not Obligated to be Physically Circumcised?
Bro! From this Thread alone my brain is resembles that of scrambled eggs! I may not have read the whole Bible as a matter of fact I've only read 4 Books the shortest ones of course. A few others but I don't count those as I used an Audio Bible. Show me a verse. I will look at the context of the Chapter and the Book itself to understand the Author and his inspired GOD breathed message. 10/10 I get it right. Except the Book of Revelation, when my nose bled. I passed out. I need some of David's insight as I have read many an interpretations but more is better.


I also have extreme A.D.D. / A.D.H.D. a GOD given talent. Although I'm well multi tasked but nothing really seems to get done! I know I got issues huh.
 

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I agree. I think this is true on a number of levels.


What I think is that the extremists are individuals who are following a literal interpretation of the Koran. The Western peace loving Muslims in North America are being secularized and are like the liberal Christians who have moved away from a literal interpretation of scripture. The literalists know this and are attacking secularism which they believe is undermining Islamic scripture. Those who follow the Koran as Mohammed intended have turned their eyes toward world domination. These men are not extremists. They are true Muslims. This is what worries me.
The ignorance in this forum is appalling. I confess, before I started my study, I was woefully ignorant too. (Not directed towards you, Cycel, I just wanted to also comment on this)

The history of Islam is one of interpretation. There are all kinds of interpretations, that have been done since the Qur'an was supposedly dictated by Allah (NO, I do NOT believe that - it is not inspired.)

Basically, Mohammed had a Catholic wife, and learned much about Christianity from her. He also went to Jerusalem and learned about Judaism. Then he twisted things around and added his own touches. That is why the Qur'an thinks that Jesus, God the Father and Mary are the Trinity. Wrong, but coming from 6th century Catholicism. (Not saying any Catholics here believe that!)

For one thing, the Qur'an is not just about Allah, but Jesus! They believe he is the Messiah! So that is a bridge to reach Muslims. The Qur'an says many things the Bible says.

He was the born of a virgin.
He was the son of Mary.
He had the power to perform miracles.
He was given revelation.
He had disciples.

These are open door to share with Muslims. Much closer than Hindus, or Sikhs or even Jews, let alone atheists who don't believe Jesus was even an historical person. That is what we are supposed to be doing right? Evangelizing the world, not starting wars with people we don't agree with!!

This forum is all about misinformation and American protectionism. I'm very sorry that people don't get that most of my original post was about being called to be missionaries, not hate-mongers. That is what this thread is.

And yes, Cycel is right that the fundamentalist Muslims lean to the literal interpretation, although technically Christians and Jews are not called infidels, but rather "People of the book." They are to be protected, and they have been for centuries. It is only since the US got rid of the Shah of Iran and invaded Iraq that things have become so totally screwed up and fostered Muslim extremism. These people have nothing, and their only hope is to die for their "cause". This is not Islam. And although we are supposed to be "second" class citizens, Muslims are to treat us with respect. Even under Sharia law.

I have not finished my studies. But I know in my heart that we are called to pray for those who persecute us, not throw out buzz words that people have picked up in the American media.

Jesus is the peaceful way. And I seem to be the only one standing for that. Here is Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount if you don't believe me.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ [SUP]44 [/SUP]But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, [SUP]45 [/SUP]so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [SUP]46 [/SUP]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? [SUP]47 [/SUP]And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? [SUP]48 [/SUP]You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matt 5:43-48

"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them." Romans 12:14

And sorry once again to Cycel, this was not all directed at you.

This is supposed to be the Bible discussion forum, and I seem to be the only one posting Scriptures. About Muslims and our relationship with them, and how our JOB is to be sharing the gospel in a way that brings them to Christ.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." Hosea 4:6




 
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The Koran and The Bible compared
The Koran


Muslims believe that the Koran (Qur‟an) was gradually revealed from Allah
to Muhammad verbally through the angel
Jibrīl (Gabriel) over a period of approximately
twenty-three years, beginning in 610 AD, when he was forty, and concluding in 632 AD,
the year of his death. Importantly, according to the Koran, the Bible is the inspired Word
of God - Muslims are commanded to believe in the Bible (Refer to Suras 2:89; 2:136;
4:13; 4:136; 4:150-152; 32:24; etc.). The Koran clearly states that no one can change
God‟s Word (Bible). For Muslims, this is
a fatal contradiction, as we‟ll soon discover.

The words of the Lord (the Bible) are perfect in truth and justice; there is none
who can change His words. He both heareth and knoweth. (Sura 6:114-115)
If you (Muhammad) doubt what We (Allah) have revealed to you, ask those who
have read the Scriptures (the Bible) before you. The truth has come to you from
your Lord: therefore do not doubt it. (Suras 10:94-96 and 21:7)
The Bible:
According to the Bible, it alone is the Word of God. The Bible is complete.
Any new revelation (such as the Koran) is condemned.
You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you
may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
(Deuteronomy 4:2)
Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do
not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. (Proverbs
30:5-6)
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God… (2 Timothy 3:16)
Contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the
saints. (Jude 1:3)
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:
If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are
written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book
of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life.
(Revelation 22:18, 19)
Because the Bible states that new revelation, such as the Koran, is to be rejected, then
either the Bible is wrong or the Koran is wrong. They cannot both
be God‟s Word.

Koran -
Is It God’s Word?
Prophecy

The Koran has no specific, fulfilled prophecies. Only generalizations
regarding the Day of Judgement (Sura 77:6-12).
Historical:

There is no evidence that Allah directed history or that the Koran
anticipated future events. In fact, the Koran has numerous errors regarding history.
Scientific:

No true scientific foreknowledge in the Koran, and many mistakes.

Archaeology:

Excavations refute and contradict many claims in the Koran.
Power over death:
There is no evidence that Allah or Muhammad had
supernatural power or power over death.

Koran: Errors, Contradictions, and other Problems
The Koran claims that it is a continuation of the Bible and will not contradict it. Therefore,
any verifiable contradiction is enough to prove the Koran is not the inspired Word of God.
We believe in God, and in what hath been revealed unto us, and in that
which hath been revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and
Jacob, and the tribes; and in what hath been given unto Moses and Jesus,
and that which hath been given unto the prophets from their Lord. We
make no distinction between any of them; and unto Him are we resigned.
(Sura 2:136)

Examples of Error in the Koran:
Creation

- According to Sura 41:9-12, it took Allah eight days to create the
world. Yet, Suras 7:51 and 10:3 agree with the Bible which states that God created the
world in six days (Genesis 1:31; Exodus 20:11).
Noah’s Ark
- Sura 11:44 claims Noah‟s Ark came to rest on top of Mount Judi
while the Bible says Mount Ararat (Genesis 8:4).
Nimrod
- The Koran claims Nimrod threw Abraham into a fire (Suras 21:68,69
and 9:69). This serious error contradicts the Bible and history. Nimrod lived many
centuries before Abraham. Nimrod was long dead when Abraham was born (Compare
Genesis 10:8, 9; 11:19-26).
Noah’s Flood
- The Koran indicates Noah‟s flood took place in Abraham‟s day
(compare Sura 7:59 with 7:136). This is a historical impossibility (Genesis 9:28-29; 11:10-
26).
Haman and Babel -
The Koran says that Haman lived in Egypt during the time of
Moses and worked for Pharoah building the tower of Babel (Suras 28:38; 29:39; 40:23,
24, 36, 37). But Haman actually lived many centuries later in Persia and was in the service
of King Ahasuerus according to the Book of Esther (Esther 3). This again reveals the
Koran contradicts both the Bible and secular history - proving the Koran is not the word
of God.
Crucifixion -
The Koran indicates that crucifixion was used by Pharoah (Sura
7:124), though history reveals it was not invented until many centuries later.
Mary or Miriam -
Muhammad confused Mary, the mother of Jesus with Miriam,
the sister of Moses and Aaron (Sura 19:28). This is a very serious error as it reveals that
Muhammad and his followers had no understanding of the different time periods for
biblical figures. Miriam lived 1500 years before Mary!
Mary’s Miracles

Muhammad clearly made up fraudulent speeches and miracles
for Mary (Sura 19:23-26).
Fictional Speeches -
Muhammad made up fictional speeches using words that did
not exist at the time of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Moses, Mary, Jesus, etc. For
example, Muhammad quotes
several Bible characters using the words “Muslim” and
“Islam.” Yet, these words did not even exist
until hundreds and even thousands of years
later. (Refer to: Suras 2:60, 126-128, 132-133, 260; 3:49-52, 67; 6:74-82; 7:59-63, 120-
126; 10:71, 72; 18:60-70; 19:16-33; etc.)
Secular History
- Sura 105 claims that the elephant army of Abraha was defeated
by birds dropping stones of baked clay upon them. But according to the historical record,
Abraha
‟s army withdrew their attack on Mecca after smallpox broke out among the
troops.
Jews -
In Sura 20:87, 95 we are told that the Jews made the golden calf in the
wilderness at the suggestion of “the Samaritan.” Yet, Samaria did not exist until
many
centuries after the golden calf incident (Exodus 32; 1 Kings)!
Alexander the Great -
The Koran claims that Alexander the Great (Dhul-
Qarnayn) was a Muslim who worshipped Allah (Sura 18:84-98). Yet, history clearly
contradicts this claim.
Scientific Errors
- The Koran claims that Alexander the Great followed the
setting of the sun and found that it went down into the waters of a muddy spring (Sura
18:85, 86)! In contrast, the Bible explains that the sun goes in a circuit (Psalm 19:6).
Some scientists scoffed at this verse thinking that it taught geocentricity
– the theory that
the sun revolves around the earth. They insisted the sun was stationary. However, we now
know that the sun is traveling through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is
literally moving through space in a huge circuit
– just as the Bible stated 3,000 years ago!
Clots of Blood
- Allah claims he created man from clots of blood (Sura 96). This
contradicts the Bible and science. The Bible says God created man from the dust of the
earth (Genesis 2:7; 3:19), and today science confirms that man is indeed made from the
elements (dust) of the earth. Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised
of some 28 base and trace elements
– all of which are found in the earth.
More Contradictions -
The Koran contradicts itself in many passages. For
example, Sura 32:5 says a day is as a thousand years, while Sura 70:4 states that a day is
as fifty-thousand years.
Abraham or Moses -
The Koran states that Abraham was the first to believe
(Sura 6:14). It then turns around and says Moses was the first to believe (Sura 7:143).
Persecution -
The Koran orders persecution of other religions and demands they
pay tribute (bribe money) (Sura 9:5, 29). The Bible teaches us to love our neighbors,
strangers, and even our enemies (Leviticus 19:18; Deuteronomy 10:19; Matthew 5:44;
Luke 6:35). Even in the Old Testament, God did not order the destruction of a pagan
culture until the cancer of sin spread so far as to be incurable and only if they were not
willing to repent (Jonah 3 and 4). Furthermore, the Bible commands believers to never
take a bribe (Exodus 23:8).
Arabian Fables -
Many stories in the Koran were well-known fables and folklore
before they were written by Muhammad. For example, the story of the she-camel who
leapt out of a rock and became a prophet was known long before Muhammad (Suras
7:73-77, 85; 91:14; 54:29).
Ape Legends -
The Koran reports that an entire village of people were turned into
apes because they broke the Sabbath by fishing (Suras 2:65; 7:163-166). This legend
precedes Muhammad and his followers
– who apparently plagiarized it.
Rip Van Winkle -
The Koran says that seven men and their animals slept for 309
years in a cave and then awoke perfectly fine (Sura 18:9-26)!
 
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Jesus Christ -
The Koran rejects and contradicts the Bible‟s clear teachings
concerning Jesus. The Koran states that Jesus was not the Son of God (Sura 5:75; 9:30).
Jesus did not die for our sins (Sura 5:19). He was not crucified (Sura 4:157). He was not
divine as well as human (Sura 5:75). The Bible repeatedly states that Jesus is the Son of
God who died for our sins (John 20:31; 1 Corinthians 15:3; etc.)
Trinity -
Muhammad mistakenly thought that Christians worshipped three gods:
the Father, the Mother (Mary), and the Son (Jesus), (Sura 5:73-75, 116)!
Racism
- According to the literal Arabic translation of Sura 3:106-107, on
Judgment Day, only people with white faces will be saved. People with black faces will be
damned. This is racism at its worse form. The Bible teaches that we are all one race - the
human race, and that Jesus died for us all (John 3:16-17; Acts 17:26). God has created all
mankind from one blood (Acts 17:26; Genesis 5). Today researchers have discovered that
we have all descended from one gene pool. For example, a 1995 study of a section of Y
chromosomes from 38 men from different ethnic groups around the world was consistent
with the biblical teaching that we all come from one man (Adam).
Summary
– Though the Koran contains Biblical truths and passages, it also
contains much Arabian folklore and unbiblical teachings. Muhammad interacted with
Jews, Christians, and Catholics, therefore it is no surprise that many of the teachings in the
Koran are similar to those taught in the Bible and several appear to be copied right from
the Bible (remember the Holy Bible was complete six centuries before The Koran).
While the Koran has no beginning or ending, the Bible alone begins with the
creation account, explains
man‟s fall into sin, then explains God‟s promise to send a
Savior, and concludes with Jesus Christ‟s return,
the end of all evil and the curse, and a
new heaven and new earth wherein dwells everlasting righteousness, peace and joy for
those who trust the Lord. And as we might expect, only
God‟s Word explains the origin
of sin and death, the origin of our conscience, God‟s plan to redeem those who trust
Jesus
, and God‟s great love for every person. In fact the Bible alone explains the origin of
everything and the consummation of everything!
Furthermore, the Koran has no Savior or plan of salvation. In contrast, the Old
Testament (written before Christ
– B.C.) declares many prophecies pointing to the Lord
Jesus Christ
‟s first coming. And the New Testament is all about our salvation in Jesus –
the One who fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies and fulfilled the Law perfectly! Jesus
summarized God‟s grand plan with these words: “
For God so loved the world that He
gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have
everlasting life” (John 3:
16).
The Koran also contains no specific prophecy. In contrast, as we will document,
the Bible contains scores of specific prophecies proving that it is the inspired Word of our
Creator.
The Koran portrays Allah as a sovereign dictator who is capricious and
unknowable. And though the Koran states that Allah is merciful, it does not teach that He
is our loving Father. The Bible teaches that God is intimate and personal, a perfect Father
who loves us. God is also righteous and holy and therefore hates wickedness and sin.
Therefore because God knew before He created man that man would sin, He had a plan in
place to send His only begotten and sinless Son to earth to live a perfect life and suffer and
die for every person‟s sins.
Jesus alone died for our sins and rose from the dead! All who
repent and trust Jesus will receive forgiveness and eternal life and will spend eternity with
our Father in heaven!
 
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In the interest of fairness I will post this article. I have heard nothing from them about any of the acts done by muslims abroad tho, and in my opinion they are simply trying to keep from being ostrasized locally by paying lip service. who knows, maybe it will keep someone from beating the tar out of them here in oklahoma.

Local Muslim Leaders Condemn Moore Attack Suspect - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |
This religion came from their prophet mohammad and is believed by his followers, he is the last prophet of GOD after Isa/JESUS, for all mankind. The deceiving part is, he had no Prophet lineage from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (which was last with JESUS of Nazareth). The koran verse declare and this is his own teachings and his close witness wrote that, 'Every Prophet of GOD will come from the line of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.'

JESUS said to HIS disciples and to pass on and is written for us to witness and witness to others to watch that;

"After Me there will be false prophets, false teachers and false apostles."

This prophet may have a close lineage with Ishmael and mother Hagar, who was denied of Abraham's eternal promise through Isaac then. But then again, after CHRIST every lineage division are nailed to the Cross and from then on all are called to come into one lineage that is through and believing in the SON of GOD, the promised MESSIAH.

Those who do not acknowledge JESUS CHRIST is LORD are anti-CHRIST.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Bro! From this Thread alone my brain is resembles that of scrambled eggs! I may not have read the whole Bible as a matter of fact I've only read 4 Books the shortest ones of course. A few others but I don't count those as I used an Audio Bible. Show me a verse. I will look at the context of the Chapter and the Book itself to understand the Author and his inspired GOD breathed message. 10/10 I get it right. Except the Book of Revelation, when my nose bled. I passed out. I need some of David's insight as I have read many an interpretations but more is better.


I also have extreme A.D.D. / A.D.H.D. a GOD given talent. Although I'm well multi tasked but nothing really seems to get done! I know I got issues huh.
Yet here you are, and you seem to be doing fine. This is the power of the Holy Spirit! There are some here who may have posted more scripture than you've read, yet understood precious little of it. The Revelation nose bleeds? They clear up, about half way through life...

Video: Ed Hindson - Revelation in One Hour <-- click
 

Jackson123

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The ignorance in this forum is appalling. I confess, before I started my study, I was woefully ignorant too. (Not directed towards you, Cycel, I just wanted to also comment on this)

The history of Islam is one of interpretation. There are all kinds of interpretations, that have been done since the Qur'an was supposedly dictated by Allah (NO, I do NOT believe that - it is not inspired.)

Basically, Mohammed had a Catholic wife, and learned much about Christianity from her. He also went to Jerusalem and learned about Judaism. Then he twisted things around and added his own touches. That is why the Qur'an thinks that Jesus, God the Father and Mary are the Trinity. Wrong, but coming from 6th century Catholicism. (Not saying any Catholics here believe that!)

For one thing, the Qur'an is not just about Allah, but Jesus! They believe he is the Messiah! So that is a bridge to reach Muslims. The Qur'an says many things the Bible says.

He was the born of a virgin.
He was the son of Mary.
He had the power to perform miracles.
He was given revelation.
He had disciples.

These are open door to share with Muslims. Much closer than Hindus, or Sikhs or even Jews, let alone atheists who don't believe Jesus was even an historical person. That is what we are supposed to be doing right? Evangelizing the world, not starting wars with people we don't agree with!!

This forum is all about misinformation and American protectionism. I'm very sorry that people don't get that most of my original post was about being called to be missionaries, not hate-mongers. That is what this thread is.

And yes, Cycel is right that the fundamentalist Muslims lean to the literal interpretation, although technically Christians and Jews are not called infidels, but rather "People of the book." They are to be protected, and they have been for centuries. It is only since the US got rid of the Shah of Iran and invaded Iraq that things have become so totally screwed up and fostered Muslim extremism. These people have nothing, and their only hope is to die for their "cause". This is not Islam. And although we are supposed to be "second" class citizens, Muslims are to treat us with respect. Even under Sharia law.

I have not finished my studies. But I know in my heart that we are called to pray for those who persecute us, not throw out buzz words that people have picked up in the American media.

Jesus is the peaceful way. And I seem to be the only one standing for that. Here is Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount if you don't believe me.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ [SUP]44 [/SUP]But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, [SUP]45 [/SUP]so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. [SUP]46 [/SUP]For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? [SUP]47 [/SUP]And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? [SUP]48 [/SUP]You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Matt 5:43-48

"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them." Romans 12:14

And sorry once again to Cycel, this was not all directed at you.

This is supposed to be the Bible discussion forum, and I seem to be the only one posting Scriptures. About Muslims and our relationship with them, and how our JOB is to be sharing the gospel in a way that brings them to Christ.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." Hosea 4:6




History not always accurate. for example, History about Communist rebellion in Indonesia, has two version. Government version said Communist plan Coup and kill some Army general. But Prof Anderson and some western journalist said it is CIA want to get rid of president Sukarno.


History by DR Alberto Rivera, said that Catholic arrange Mohammad marriage his catholic wife and in order to affect Mohammad to start Muslim. Vatican want to use Muslim to take over Jerusalem.
the ting that make me believe is, I read this book in the early 90 and that book publish in the 70's, than I don't believe. Now if we google, we find a lot of article that say so.

Not only that, Alberto said some event in the about Vatican away before it happen and indeed, it is happen recently.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Yet here you are, and you seem to be doing fine. This is the power of the Holy Spirit! There are some here who may have posted more scripture than you've read, yet understood precious little of it. The Revelation nose bleeds? They clear up, about half way through life...
Yer man! David and I spoke about the audacity of the Holy Spirit. I had been researching about the age of John the Baptist when he left home. As anything of the Lord I'm intrigued by. He is my passion. I just want to know everything I can about Him and of Him. He is just always and always forever on the tip of my tongue. It came down to from research, fellowship and mentoring that John the Baptist left home in his early 20's his teens and even as young as 2 or 3yrs old. Of course what caught my attention was the age of infancy.

I meditated on that concept and my heart took me through all the miracles and wonders a nation being moved nation to nation. Samson the mightiest superhuman that only ever lived through the Holy Spirit. David and the sling shot that killed a giant a feat never to be repeated and can never be repeated. Daniel in the Lions Den. JESUS the greatest Hero of them all couldn't perform any miracles without the Holy Spirit. Pauline and his incredible teachings empowered by the Holy Spirit.

For me to deny the Holy Spirit leading John the Baptist into wilderness at infancy is not an improbability but a true probability in every essence of Spirit of GODs being. I cannot and will deny Him of that Divinity. The Holy Spirit would have led John the Baptist and he would've in safety and comfort regardless of whatever age. If he was led into the wilderness at infancy I believe it.

For the gods are limited. Our GOD is limitless.

I love the Holy Spirit I love Him dearly. I am so very thankful that we have a GOD revealed in three persons. For me it expels what intrinsic union faithfully means. It breaks my heart mankind cannot grapple what they show. Yet, there hearts are blind because they choose not to believe like we believe.

I gotta go I'm tearing up and I'm in a cafe...L8R
 

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Yea Islam is evil, that is true. Be careful though that this does not lead you to hate muslims. Muslims are just people caught in a well crafted deception. My heart breaks for them, for the muslim is more persecuted by the deception of Islam than anyone else. Don't let that lead you to make excuses for Islam either, there is no excuse for Islam, it was created by that ancient dragon pretending to be an angel of light whom deceived and even tortured Mohammad.
Of course there are secularized (actually the muslims were pioneers in secularisation) or "moderate" muslims (people who really don't care much about their religion, just follows some cultural aspects of it) who are "good" and friendly minded people. However, we must never be naive and tricked into thinking there is any kind of peaceful or tolerant Islam or that Islam wants peace with its non-muslim neighbors. In reality there is no such thing. This includes the rich and more advanced muslim countries. At heart this violent satanic cult strives for domination and subduing of people. Often hand in hand with arabization. Never forget that many former christian strongholds were crushed by islamic force and forced converted to Islam. Never forget this blood that cries from the earth. As ever before all means are needed to evangelize the muslim world.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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History not always accurate.
Yet you believe Islam was created by the Pope! Yer right buddy...history of mans literature is fact so you seem to think.
 

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Yea Islam is evil, that is true. Be careful though that this does not lead you to hate muslims. Muslims are just people caught in a well crafted deception. My heart breaks for them, for the muslim is more persecuted by the deception of Islam than anyone else. Don't let that lead you to make excuses for Islam either, there is no excuse for Islam, it was created by that ancient dragon pretending to be an angel of light whom deceived and even tortured Mohammad.

2 Cor 11:13-15: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works"

Ephesians 6:12: "(For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age), against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places"

I agree with what you say, but Islam is just another tool of satan and not the main tool.

The whole point of satan transforming himself is to deceive. The scriptures say he comes across as the "good" guy, not the bad guy. Though he is the reason for all the blatant evil in this world, no one is deceived by Islam except the muslims themselves. The one to look out for is the deceptive evil that comes across as a system of light. Know your enemy, this is how he works. The non believing world look on in horroh as Isis cut off the heads of children and stick them on poles (all in the name of Allah). Islam is a tool of satan but not his number one masterpiece.

There seems to be an agenda to have everyone focusing on Islam rather than looking in the other direction at the one that offers peace and parades around with a "holy" demeanor. The scriptures say his ministers parade around the same way as him, and that they are connected with a "christian" system, mentioned numerous times in the scriptures. This is satan's church/system "of light" in which people are worshiping him.

I (personally) see a good cop-bad cop situation here, satan using blatant evil to strike fear in people and have them running into the arms of the 'man of sin' who will rescue them, bringing 'peace'. One a blatant evil and the other a deceptive evil.
 

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Yet you believe Islam was created by the Pope! Yer right buddy...history of mans literature is fact so you seem to think.

Look at history the Church of Rome,By Luke compare by Catholic.

Luke the writer of Act did not mention Peter as Bishop of Rome. He write Paul go to Rome and teach there, never mention Peter at Rome.

Catholic said Peter in Rome from 32 to 67 ad.
 
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2 Cor 11:13-15: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works"

Ephesians 6:12: "(For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age), against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places"

I agree with what you say, but Islam is just another tool of satan and not the main tool.

The whole point of satan transforming himself is to deceive. The scriptures say he comes across as the "good" guy, not the bad guy. Though he is the reason for all the blatant evil in this world, no one is deceived by Islam except the muslims themselves. The one to look out for is the deceptive evil that comes across as a system of light. Know your enemy, this is how he works. The non believing world look on in horroh as Isis cut off the heads of children and stick them on poles (all in the name of Allah). Islam is a tool of satan but not his number one masterpiece.

There seems to be an agenda to have everyone focusing on Islam rather than looking in the other direction at the one that offers peace and parades around with a "holy" demeanor. The scriptures say his ministers parade around the same way as him, and that they are connected with a "christian" system, mentioned numerous times in the scriptures. This is satan's church/system "of light" in which people are worshiping him.

I (personally) see a good cop-bad cop situation here, satan using blatant evil to strike fear in people and have them running into the arms of the 'man of sin' who will rescue them, bringing 'peace'. One a blatant evil and the other a deceptive evil.
All evil is based on deception and lies. Aye Islam is not any less evil than atheism, secularism, hinduism, buddhism, mormonism, etc.

The only way to defeat deception is with Truth, that sharp two-edged sword. Truth is in Jesus Christ alone. From the mouth of Jesus comes the Sword of Truth. This is the only way to overcome the shadows in the world.
 
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... let alone atheists who don't believe Jesus was even an historical person.
Oops, you've made a mistake, Angela. Some atheists don't believe Jesus was a real person, but this atheist says he was. I also believe Jesus was crucified by the Romans. I just don't believe he was God.

The best documented evidence that Jesus was a real person comes from scripture. Paul identifies James as the brother of the Lord. “I stayed with him for a fortnight, without seeing any other of the apostles, except James the Lord's brother.” (Galatians 1: 19)
 
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All evil is based on deception and lies. Aye Islam is not any less evil than atheism, secularism, hinduism, buddhism, mormonism, etc.
Your true colours are showing GIS. Anyone who doesn't share your religious outlook is considered evil, but then you are in good company. The members of the Islamic State hold the same view as yourself. Anyone not sharing their outlook on the Prophet Mohammed is considered evil. Good thing, though, that your scripture does not move you to the same violent action as theirs does. “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” (Quran 8:12). This is why the members of Islamic State are so fond of beheading.