Jehova's Witness Beliefs?

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dcontroversal said:
Like Clark posted above......they do not believe that Jesus is God and yes they hold to damnable heresies......

Jehovah's Witnesses View of Christ

By Tal Davis


Jesus' Prehuman Existence
The Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus Christ was the first created being of Jehovah God. Jehovah God created Jesus as a divine-like spirit at some point in ancient, pre-creation time.

He is also identified by Jehovah's Witnesses with Michael the archangel. "Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God (Jesus) was known as Michael before he came to earth" (Reasoning from the Scriptures [Reasoning] [Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, 1985], p


Jesus' Divinity
The Watchtower Society denies the deity and eternal preexistence of Jesus Christ.

The Watchtower Society asserts that since the Greek language has no indefinite articles (a or an), the article can be used where needed in translating; thus they insert "a" before god to emphasize the Word's (Christ's) inferiority to God.

Jesus' Birth
The Watchtower Society teaches that Michael the archangel disappeared from heaven and was conceived miraculously by (the Virgin) Mary.


Jesus' Resurrection
Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus from the dead.


Those above should suffice...google their doctrine and you can see for sure......
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Yet, in the particular topic about Jesus Divinity, I'm not sure they don't believe He is divine... there is also
this article in their site about it...
which mentions this verse in John 14:28 (which says that even Jesus recognized that God was greater than Him) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come {again} unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."
I just don't agree we should go through the mind of people who wants to say bad things about others religions just to win a discussion. God bless.
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Yet, in the particular topic about Jesus Divinity, I'm not sure they don't believe He is divine... there is also
this article in their site about it...
which mentions this verse in John 14:28 (which says that even Jesus recognized that God was greater than Him) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come {again} unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I."I just don't agree we should go through the mind of people who wants to say bad things about others religions just to win a discussion. God bless.
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No offence Marian, but I am not trying to win an argument.....the OP asked about things that they believe and or stand on...everything I have posted on this thread I have dealt with personally as well as others that are posting on this thread....The JW's are a cult, they teach heresy and that is simply the truth....The Prophets, Jesus, Paul, John, Peter, Jude all exposed heretical teachers and religions based upon what they believe, practice and or proclaim......sorry if you misunderstand.......
 
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dcontroversal said:
No offence Marian, but I am not trying to win an argument.....the OP asked about things that they believe and or stand on...everything I have posted on this thread I have dealt with personally as well as others that are posting on this thread....The JW's are a cult, they teach heresy and that is simply the truth....The Prophets, Jesus, Paul, John, Peter, Jude all exposed heretical teachers and religions based upon what they believe, practice and or proclaim......sorry if you misunderstand.......
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I didn't say you did it. I said others do it (I didn't mean others here, by the way)...
 
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They don't celebrate birthdays and other pagan celebrations as Christmas, Mother's Day, Easter...
 
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They agree with not adoring any image or sculptures...
 
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They do not believe in Trinity either. The Father , Son, Holy Ghost.
 
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they stand firm during the holocaust, being faithful to the Lord, and against Hitler...
Jehovah’s Witnesses Stand Firm Against Nazi Assault | Videos
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That is not a testimony to their faithfulness to Jehovah. They deny everything scripture tells us about the nature of God. Their Jesus is nothing more than a figment of their imagination. These people are a cult who has no association with God. If that offends you I am sorry you are offended, but I meant what I said.
 
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purpose said:
They do not believe in Trinity either. The Father , Son, Holy Ghost.
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They don't deny that The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost exist. They just don't say they are only one element (three in one). They believe it separately, but they don't deny they are close one to other and powerful.
 
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Marian29 said:
They don't deny that The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost exist. They just don't say they are only one element (three in one). They believe it separately, but they don't deny they are close one to other and powerful.
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If you deny the Son, you deny the Father and they deny everything scripture tells us about Jesus as the Son of God. They also deny the Holy Spirit. They do not believe the H.S is a person. They believe he is nothing more that an expression of God's wisdom or thought.
 
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Marian29 said:
they stand firm during the holocaust, being faithful to the Lord, and against Hitler...
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Many groups, families, people etc. have made honorable stands on principles and even godly principles, but that does not mean they are of God......if the root is corrupt the whole tree is corrupt and the things they teach and or deny concerning Jesus identify them as corrupt........no matter how many stands they may or may not make upon principles that seem godly....

The rich man that Jesus speaks to is a prime example.....he in his mind had done all that Jesus required, yet Jesus told him that he lacked ONE thing.....the same is true of any group, family, individual and or religion......many decent things are done everyday by men, women, organizations, groups etc. that do not know God and or His only begotten Son JESUS the Christ!
 
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Marian29 said:
They don't deny that The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost exist. They just don't say they are only one element (three in one). They believe it separately, but they don't deny they are close one to other and powerful.
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My Bad , Thanks For the correction.!
 
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oyster67 said:
So Tal Davis is saying that JWs believe:

1.) Michael the Archangel impregnated Mary.

2.) Jesus never walked out of the Tomb.

Do the JWs really teach these things? I had heard some things about them, but this I had not known.
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not that Michael impregnated Mary, but that Michael entered Mary's womb and was born as Jesus - they teach that Michael and Jesus are one and the same. i am not clear about the details of how they teach this happened, but they do not deny Mary's virginity, "merely" that her child was very God of very God - rather that He was the first and greatest created angel, "son of God" as much as any angel is a "son" of their creator. they say, 'first begotten' but not as we know to be true, "the only begotten" of God.

on the second point, like Old Hermit said, at least into the mid-late 2000's they still teach that Christ (or Michael, according to their doctrine) was not bodily resurrected, but that His fleshly body dissolved and He was instantiated as a spirit again.
 
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oldhermit said:
That is not a testimony to their faithfulness to Jehovah. They deny everything scripture tells us about the nature of God. Their Jesus is nothing more than a figment of their imagination. These people are a cult who has no association with God. If that offends you I am sorry you are offended, but I meant what I said.
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How can't it be a testimony? Do you think they decided not to obey Hitler, and die, just for fun? As you may know, they are politically neutral. I'm not offended, thank you for your 'sorry', I just don't agree to people saying what they don't know (I'm not talking about anyone specifically), if someone wants to know something, they should go to the right source, not at google, or ideas of others from other religions...
 
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Marian29 said:
How can't it be a testimony? Do you think they decided not to obey Hitler, and die, just for fun? As you may know, they are politically neutral. I'm not offended, thank you for your 'sorry', I just don't agree to people saying what they don't know (I'm not talking about anyone specifically), if someone wants to know something, they should go to the right source, not at google, or ideas of others from other religions...
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Lots of people though out history have died for deep religious convictions because they believed them to be true. This does not mean they died for God or that they were obeying God in deference to their oppressors. These people died for a lie and they died in vain. My source of information is not Google, it is their own writings. Read post #13.
 
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on the second point, like Old Hermit said, at least into the mid-late 2000's they still teach that Christ (or Michael, according to their doctrine) was not bodily resurrected, but that His fleshly body dissolved and He was instantiated as a spirit again.
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Another missunderstanding here, they follow Acts 13:34, as it says Jesus ressurected in an incorruptible body, which means, not in a normal human body which can die again, then returned in spirit to heaven, as everyone knows.
 
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oldhermit said:
Lots of people though out history have died for deep religious convictions because they believed them to be true. This does not mean they died for God or that they were obeying God in deference to their oppressors. These people died for a lie and they died in vain. My source of information is not Google, it is their own writings. Read post #13.
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And why they would say in the videos with the survivors, that they stand firm because of the name of Jehova?.
 
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Religions are religions they come and go... God stays forever. :)
 
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Marian29 said:
Another missunderstanding here, they follow Acts 13:34, as it says Jesus ressurected in an incorruptible body, which means, not in a normal human body which can die again, then returned in spirit to heaven, as everyone knows.
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The point the text makes is that the same body that went into that tomb was the same body that came out of that tomb. Read the gospel accounts of the resurrection.
 
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Descyple said:
Here is an informative lecture by James White on the teachings and beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness' (including the denial of the deity of Jesus).

[video=youtube;Ru3GbBB_pIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru3GbBB_pIs[/video]
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So James White is telling us that JWs believe that:

"Michael Acrchangel stepped into the Womb and a few decades later stepped out of the Tomb."

Is that a fair summarization of the video?
 
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