Jesus and mary magdalene

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:rofl: from the start is some of those humans before
where the one who thought to have a sexual desire
and made it as their doctrine for profittering
as bearing false witness also to those disciples of jesus
like magdalene who is a prostitutes
when there is no written scriptures saying that she is

~;> well no answer yet
and yet its the outer most layer of what kind of thinking that some of those humans could have
 
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Magenta

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True, ukok, it was a pope who turned Mary Magdalene into
a prostitute when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.

Mary Magdalene was a woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons (Luke 8:2). The name Magdalene likely indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers.

Mary Magdalene has been associated with the "woman in the city who was a sinner" (
Luke 7:37) who washed Jesus' feet, but there is no scriptural basis for this. The city of Magdala did have a reputation for prostitution. This information, coupled with the fact that Luke first mentions Mary Magdalene immediately following his account of the sinful woman (Luke 7:36-50), has led some to equate the two women. But there is no scriptural evidence to support this idea. Mary Magdalene is nowhere identified as a prostitute or as a sinful woman, despite popular portrayals of her as such.

Mary Magdalene is also often associated with the woman whom Jesus saved from stoning after she had been taken in adultery (
John 8:1-11). But again this is an association with no evidence. The movie “The Passion of the Christ” made this connection. This view is possible, but not likely and certainly not taught in the Bible. See more:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-Magdalene.html
 
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True, ukok, it was a pope who turned Mary Magdalene into
a prostitute when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.

Mary Magdalene was a woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons (Luke 8:2). The name Magdalene likely indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers.

Mary Magdalene has been associated with the "woman in the city who was a sinner" (
Luke 7:37) who washed Jesus' feet, but there is no scriptural basis for this. The city of Magdala did have a reputation for prostitution. This information, coupled with the fact that Luke first mentions Mary Magdalene immediately following his account of the sinful woman (Luke 7:36-50), has led some to equate the two women. But there is no scriptural evidence to support this idea. Mary Magdalene is nowhere identified as a prostitute or as a sinful woman, despite popular portrayals of her as such.

Mary Magdalene is also often associated with the woman whom Jesus saved from stoning after she had been taken in adultery (
John 8:1-11). But again this is an association with no evidence. The movie “The Passion of the Christ” made this connection. This view is possible, but not likely and certainly not taught in the Bible. See more:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-Magdalene.html
i think mary had a much greater role in early Christianity. which later would be down played.
 

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i think mary had a much greater role in early Christianity. which later would be down played.
Mary Magdalene was the first to witness and testify to the risen Lord, which is the basis of our hope in Christ, without which our faith would be in vain, and we would still be in our sins. Jesus is not a misogynist :)
 
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True, ukok, it was a pope who turned Mary Magdalene into
a prostitute when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.

Mary Magdalene was a woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons (Luke 8:2). The name Magdalene likely indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers.

Mary Magdalene has been associated with the "woman in the city who was a sinner" (
Luke 7:37) who washed Jesus' feet, but there is no scriptural basis for this. The city of Magdala did have a reputation for prostitution. This information, coupled with the fact that Luke first mentions Mary Magdalene immediately following his account of the sinful woman (Luke 7:36-50), has led some to equate the two women. But there is no scriptural evidence to support this idea. Mary Magdalene is nowhere identified as a prostitute or as a sinful woman, despite popular portrayals of her as such.

Mary Magdalene is also often associated with the woman whom Jesus saved from stoning after she had been taken in adultery (
John 8:1-11). But again this is an association with no evidence. The movie “The Passion of the Christ” made this connection. This view is possible, but not likely and certainly not taught in the Bible. See more:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-Magdalene.html
:alien: the man you have mention is not here
for hes with the other and unto the elders
my brethren my sister
brothers and unto all

:ty:

godbless us all always
 

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#86
i think mary had a much greater role in early Christianity. which later would be down played.
She is a saint in Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental, Anglican and Lutheran churches.
 

Magenta

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She is a saint in Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental, Anglican and Lutheran churches.
All believers are saints. I hope you don't pray to dead people, too.
 
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True, ukok, it was a pope who turned Mary Magdalene into
a prostitute when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.

Mary Magdalene was a woman from whom Jesus cast out seven demons (Luke 8:2). The name Magdalene likely indicates that she came from Magdala, a city on the southwest coast of the Sea of Galilee. After Jesus cast seven demons from her, she became one of His followers.

Mary Magdalene has been associated with the "woman in the city who was a sinner" (
Luke 7:37) who washed Jesus' feet, but there is no scriptural basis for this. The city of Magdala did have a reputation for prostitution. This information, coupled with the fact that Luke first mentions Mary Magdalene immediately following his account of the sinful woman (Luke 7:36-50), has led some to equate the two women. But there is no scriptural evidence to support this idea. Mary Magdalene is nowhere identified as a prostitute or as a sinful woman, despite popular portrayals of her as such.

Mary Magdalene is also often associated with the woman whom Jesus saved from stoning after she had been taken in adultery (
John 8:1-11). But again this is an association with no evidence. The movie “The Passion of the Christ” made this connection. This view is possible, but not likely and certainly not taught in the Bible. See more:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-Magdalene.html
:haha: well i speak for him
in the meantime
and im not making fun unto anyone for this
:haha: signifies my description unto the group that im representing
and that is the other
indeed im one with the other
for the other are compose of four diffirent groups
diffirent from the another ano unto the others
and the others is the group where the :alien: is staying
along with their alien creator our brethren :8)

. ... yes ofcourse thats is very true my brethren my sister
those people before who turned Mary Magdalene into
a prostitute when there is no Scriptural basis to do so.
thats why also
they put those humans where most of them are women
unto a sight of blasphemy that were happened
in the history
as it is written
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Although the Indian Wars may not seem like they affected the Salem Witch Trials at first, the Indian Wars, which began around 1622 and raged on and off into the eighteenth century had a large impact on the outcome of the Salem Witch Trials. In 1692, teenage girls were suddenly barking like dogs and dancing in the woods. The only possible explanation was that the girls had been bewitched, and the devil had come to Salem. No one really knows why the girls actually started behaving oddly, and many things might explain it. For example, there was a smallpox epidemic in Salem that year, and the winter that year was much worse than usual. The wars with the Indians were also taking place, only 70 miles away from Salem. The main thing on everyone's mind was violent death. Fear spread and created hysteria.

Indians were viewed as devil worshippers, and witches were viewed as servants of the Devil. The Puritans saw the Devil 70 miles away, and were fearful of him. There was the feeling that the devil was nearby, and that was part of the fright and suspicion. If the Devil convinced someone to join his ranks, they were now a witch and not to be trusted. Women were considered to be weaker than men, and less likely to resist the Devil if he happened to visit them. Any woman with a temper was in danger of accusation, and once accused, conviction was inescapable.

News of hostile Indians brought fear of a repeat of the Wampanoag chief Metacom's uprising, the King Phillips War. Although the Puritans were victorious in that war, nightmares of the war remained and people of Salem were seeing Indians in every dark alley and every corner. Every able-bodied man trained for the war. In their fearful, anxious state, everybody was seeing things that were not actually happening.

In the King Phillips War of 1675 and 1676, the women were not directly affected, but were victims nonetheless. The women and children died without fathers to get paid for work, and fearing that the famine would happen again with the upcoming war, the women were especially suspicious of others, even more so than the men. This caused some women to lose their temper randomly, which led some suspicion to their being a witch.

The Puritans believed in an invisible world, which they thought to be as real as the visible one. The Puritans were losing the war against the Indians, which was the war with the Devil in the visible world, and this made them even more willing to kill witches, which was the war in the invisible world. The Puritans felt the need to defeat evil driving them. Added to the fear and hysteria, this blinded most people in Salem Village of the truth and created the frenzy to find and kill witches.

Indians constantly raided the Massachusetts Bay Colony, and there were also many wars. One large war Massachusetts was fighting was a battle against Canada and their Indian allies called the Battle of Quebec. It cost even more lives to the English settlers than the Salem Witch Trials, and spread fear of more battles with the Canadians throughout Massachusetts. This was caused because France claimed the largest area of North America with the least amount of settlers. The English thought this was naive, and so decided to attack the French. However, the English suffered a horrible defeat and were forced to retreat. More men died on the return voyage than in the battle, and the French suffered only minor losses. This enormous defeat led to despair.

~;> and we believed that everyone would knew this by now
and by the way
we . ... are
just his :haha: armor and visions for now so were just nobody
but our words are true as it is written indeed

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godbless us all always
 
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Magenta

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:alien: the man you have mention is not here
for hes with the other and unto the elders
my brethren my sister
brothers and unto all

:ty:

godbless us all always
True. Pope Gregory :p

Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute? Luke 8 names her among other female followers and financial supporters and says that she had been released from the power of seven demons.
[FONT=Georgia, serif]Theologians in later centuries consciously tried to downplay her role as an influential follower of Jesus. She became identified with the “sinful woman” in Luke 7 whom Jesus forgives as she anoints his feet, as well as the woman “taken in adultery” whom Jesus saved from stoning. In the sixth century Pope Gregory preached of her being a model penitent. [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif](He is the one believed responsible for making her a whore without solid Biblical backing.)[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif][/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, serif]Only the Western church has said that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. The Eastern church has always honored her as an apostle, noting her as the “apostle to the apostles,” based on the account of the [/FONT]Gospel of John which has Jesus calling her by name and telling her to give the news of his resurrection to the other disciples. http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/was-mary-magdalene-wife-of-jesus-was-mary-magdalene-a-prostitute/
 
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It's not by accident that a false religion is held out as one that should be accepted in the world, and is often defended by people on the left especially, but is violent and treats women horribly, but the TRUE faith of Jesus, the Prince of Peace, is more pro-women than any others, yet is accused of being the opposite, even sometimes by 'believers', people twisting scripture and failing to see and accept His love for us all, Especially brothers and sisters in Christ.
 

Magenta

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When would He have married? Before His baptism with John? He would have had to leave mother and father and cling to His wife, then leave His wife to enter His ministry of reconciliation in going to the cross. He came to reconcile us back to God and also bring us into unity. He doesn't like it when we forsake each other, it's heartbreaking how much that goes on in the world, many of us are guilty, but it's much worse that it happens so much in the professing body of Christ. Shame on us when we do that. There is no shame in Jesus, it doesn't make sense that He would do that to His wife. Blasphemy is an often misunderstood word and isn't always used properly, but I get the point, maybe heretical would be the better word, I don't know, but it's a pretty serious error to suggest Jesus married and then left His wife. (And He obviously didn't get married between the time of His baptism and the cross.)
Why do you think that if Jesus married, He would have had to leave His wife to perform His earthly ministry? You are essentially suggesting He would have to be a sinner. This perplexes me.
 

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Saint Mary Magdalene is a model of repentance. She is the proof that true metanoia is possible and it is not a mere theory. Also, I don't think that Pope Gregory's intention was to belittle her. On the contrary, I might say.

The passage about the woman caught in adultery (woman that has later been identified as Mary Magdalene) is a passage that was previously added to the scripture. A lot of people think it didn't actually happen, but I believe it did.
 
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:haha: indeed
as it is written
:read:

Another of the large wars was the King William's war. The King William's War is also known as the Nine Years' War or the War of the Grand Alliance, and began in 1688. The Battle of Quebec was part of the King William's War which started because of the tension between the English and the French. There were many other important battles, most of which were retaliation. The New Englanders retaliated to the French's initial attack by attacking Port Royal, one of the important battles. In the King William's war, there were many important battles, such as the Battle of Port Royal, the Battle of Quebec, and the Siege of Pemaquid. These were all losses for the New Englanders, and so many losses were weighing heavily on everybody's minds.

Indians raided from all directions. Raids from the north and west brought many refugees carrying sickness, need of additional resources, and even more fear. Many of these refugees bore marks of the raids such as scars, open cuts, and madness. After seeing these refugees in their sorry state, even more people believed the Devil was truly among them. People were seeing the Devil in every household and were fearful of the harm that may be caused.

One of the people accused was a man who had lots many battles to the Indians in a row. George Burroughs, head of the church was accused of bewitching his soldiers in a military disaster for the Americans. He was a man of very high status and rank, with no bad reputation at all. George Burroughs may have been the least likely witch of all, and yet he was accused with the wars with the Indians as a reason. There were other reasons too, one of which was his extraordinary weight lifting, and such feats of strength were considered impossible without assistance. Afterwards, he successfully recited the Lord's Prayer in front of a large crowd making him even less likely to be a witch and was executed anyways.

News of the Native victories to the north and west added fear that the Indians might defeat every city in Massachusetts, including Salem. Only 70 miles away, no one felt safe, everybody feared the Indians would slaughter the Puritans down to the last man. Anxiousness arose, and suspicion of spies built up.

Tituba, an Indian slave, was the most likely suspect of being a spy, and it is no coincidence she was the first accused. Even though she was not a Wabanaki or a Wampanoag, but actually from Barbados, she was still an Indian slave and so people thought of her as an Indian. Puritans put all Indians in the same box, and so Tituba was put in a box with them. Also, slaves were the lowest ranking people in the society. The lower a person was in society, the less trustworthy he or she was. Tituba, being both the lowest in society as well as Indian, was an easy target. Add to that the voodoo magic and tales she was telling the girls, and Tituba is an obvious choice.

The Salem Witch Trials were a terrible event that scared many people in Salem in 1692. At least twenty-four people and two dogs were killed. No one really knows what happened in the witch trials, but many things might explain them. There was the small pox epidemic, the harsh winter and their Puritan religion adding up to fear, hysteria, and madness. The Indian Wars were another factor that increased peoples' fears, and may have had the largest impact of all. The Salem Witch Trials was a very important moment in history, and all the people in the world would do well to learn about it and prevent any repeats. The King Phillips' War especially, even though it happened in the past, just thinking about it caused the Salem Witch Trials to be stronger. The Indian Wars were key to the development of the Salem Witch Trials, and nobody wants another witch hunt.

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godbless us all always
 

Magenta

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Saint Mary Magdalene is a model of repentance. She is the proof that true metanoia is possible and it is not a mere theory. Also, I don't think that Pope Gregory's intention was to belittle her. On the contrary, I might say.

The passage about the woman caught in adultery (woman that has later been identified as Mary Magdalene) is a passage that was previously added to the scripture. A lot of people think it didn't actually happen, but I believe it did.
His intention seems to have been to create the virgin/whore archetype and forever brand women as either/or. Men seem to have a need to do that to women, perhaps as a way to attempt to control the sexuality of women, since men have such little control of their own. Jesus didn't treat women that way. In Him there is neither male nor female.
 
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:haha: thats the most interesting part
which remind me of the former babylon
well try to relax for a moment and
watch this movie
as it is written
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This article is about the film. For other uses, see Mary Magdalene (disambiguation).
Mary Magdalene

Constance Crawley (center) in the 1914 film Mary Magdalene.
Directed by Arthur Maude
Starring Arthur Maude
Constance Crawley
Production
company
Kennedy Features
Distributed by Warner Features (USA)
Release dates
February*4,*1914
Running time
Three reels (about 12 minutes per reel)
Country United States
Language Silent
English intertitles
Mary Magdalene is a 1914 silent film that is loosely based on the 1910, three-act play of the same name by Belgian playwright Maurice Maeterlinck.

Plot
The story takes place in Capernaum and Jerusalem during the two years leading up to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and follows the lives of Judas Iscariot (Arthur Maude) and Mary Magdalene (Constance Crawley), who indulge in their own selfish pursuits and care little about the plights of others. But when Mary hears Jesus preach an outdoor sermon, she learns the power of Christ's love and abandons her reckless ways to become one of his most ardent followers.[1][2]

Production[edit]
Charles Urban, the Anglo-British promoter of the Kinemacolor process of making color motion pictures, acquired world-wide rights to Maurice Maeterlinck's play Mary Magdalene with plans to produce a color film. Maeterlinck's mistress Georgette Leblanc, who had appeared in the title role of the original production of play, was retained to star in the movie.[3] Although Urban planned an Autumn 1913 release in London, and actual filming did take place in Europe, a final product never reached the screen. Instead, Aubrey Kennedy of Kennedy Features in Los Angeles, California, released his own version of Mary Magdalene in February 1914 that was filmed at cameraman James Crosby's J.A.C. Studio near downtown Los Angeles.[4][5]

Kennedy Features sought investors (state-right buyers) for the film by advertizing that Mary Magdalene was "a stupendous production that will create a sensation wherever shown."[6][7] One theater ad that appeared after the 4 February 1914 release of the film even billed it as "the most magnificent melodramatic feature America has ever seen."[8] Although reviews of the film were generally positive,[1][2] and it was still being shown in theaters as late as November 1915,[9] little mention of Mary Magdalene appears in motion picture trade journals such as The Moving Picture World and Motography in the months after the film was released.[10]

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godbless us all always
 

Magenta

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Any way you look at it, women are marginalized in Scripture.
And Roman Catholicism perverts just about everything it
comes into contact with. Put the two together and... ta da!
Mary Magdalene magically becomes a model penitent sinner.
As if none other ever existed in all the history of humanity.
 
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Other people are suggesting Jesus as a sinner, I'm not. Other people are also suggesting Jesus got married, I'm not. Knowing what He would be going through, He didn't get married during His time between baptism and the cross, and it doesn't seem right to suggest that He married and then left His wife to begin a ministry of reconciliation. The only option would be to take her with Him throughout that time, much of which wasn't such a rosey time. I just don't think He would do that to her.
Maybe that's why many believe/teach a pre-trib or pre-wrath rapture, Jesus wants to spare His bride from that? I don't know, but suggesting He was married on earth, like a physical marriage, just doesn't make sense on so many levels.
But maybe some people think the wedding at Cana was His. People speculate about alot of things.
 

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I wonder if people realise that Jesus had to go to the bathroom like everyone else, I bet when he hit puberty that he woke up and had to go to the bathroom aswell,.. HE BECAME HUMAN lol somehow every time its about sex or private parts ppl go nuts.
 
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:haha: your heart madam your heart
try to be cool lets all wait for the outcome
and
by the way we are not against to catholic church
its their teachings that we are opposing
 

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His intention seems to have been to create the virgin/whore archetype and forever brand women as either/or. Men seem to have a need to do that to women, perhaps as a way to attempt to control the sexuality of women, since men have such little control of their own. Jesus didn't treat women that way. In Him there is neither male nor female.
The truth is we don't know about his intentions, like you admitted.

So, instead of pouring unnecessary hatred on him and projecting on him preconcieved ideas we have of men, we should stick to what we know. That would be the honest, christian way to look at it.