Jesus last words...

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BarlyGurl

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... were WHAT??? Seems like some might have put the cart before the horse... but what exactly did he say again????
 
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Luke 23:46
Jesus called out in a loud voice,"Father into your hands I commit my spirit." When He said this,He breathed His last. Last words on the cross.

Acts 1

[SUP]7 [/SUP]He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

Last words before He ascended into heaven
 
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Bookends

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Matthew and Mark's account, "“My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”

Luke's account is, [SUP]46 [/SUP]And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’”[SUP][/SUP] Having said this, He breathed His last.

John's account is, [SUP]30 [/SUP]So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.

Is your question referring to the different accounts? If so, my answer would be this, that Jesus said all these things as His last words, but certain sayings were not added to each account, each writer had probably gotten their information from different eye witnesses, because all the disciples had scattered, except John. Does this help or hurt the authenticity of God Word? It helps, for if all the accounts said that same thing the critics would scream collusion and that all the writers came together and plotted together in what should be written.
 
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crosspreacher

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... were WHAT??? Seems like some might have put the cart before the horse... but what exactly did he say again????
before He died or before He ascended?
 
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lol, we got you going now, don't we BarlyGurl :) :) :)
 
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Hopetobe

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And Jesus called with a loud voice and said: “Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” When he had said this, he expired. Luke 23:46
 

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Revelation 22

Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.8And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.10And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
 
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MidniteWelder

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... were WHAT??? Seems like some might have put the cart before the horse... but what exactly did he say again????

John 19:30

[SUP]30[/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished": and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

The trick is knowing what //IT is..because //IT is very important information to know
 
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The biggest event in history with so many witnesses and there is total confusion on what his last words were.

Jonah was in the sea-monster’s belly for three days and three nights, and in the same way the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth.
This was Jesus understanding on what was to happen.

The key phrase here is in the same way. If Jesus was dead for three days then he did not spend it in the same way as Jonah spent it.

How do you dress when you do gardening ? Old clothes, straw hat ?
“SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARDENER, SAITH UNTO HIM” (John 20:15).
Jesus pbuh was in disguise. He was disguised in such a way that not even Mary recognised him. He was disguised because the Jews tried to kill him.
Think about it. All the holy pictures show Jesus pbuh in a white robe with a halo
Cover Story: The Story of Easter - April 2006
It was nothing like this. He was dressed in old gardening clothes so that no one recognised him. He had conquered death, but was still hiding from the Jews in old gardeners clothes ?

Interesting that Judas death is in total confusing as well. Did he kill himself or did he commit suicide ?

Just as God saved Abraham from the fire, Jesus was saved from the cross. There have been so many clues left for a person with an open heart to pick up. Start your journey to find the truth, you may not have much time left. God will ask you on judgement day why you did not use the brain he gave you to find him.


 
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psychomom

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Jesus pbuh was in disguise. He was disguised in such a way that not even Mary recognised him. He was disguised because the Jews tried to kill him.
sorry to nitpick,
but not just 'tried'. :)
 
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Why was the brother of Jesus James letters not included ? They apparently found his letters and this documentary looks at what it contains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDrObm8aotM&feature=related
 

loveme1

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The biggest event in history with so many witnesses and there is total confusion on what his last words were.
Jonah was in the sea-monster’s belly for three days and three nights, and in the same way the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth.
This was Jesus understanding on what was to happen.

The key phrase here is in the same way. If Jesus was dead for three days then he did not spend it in the same way as Jonah spent it.

How do you dress when you do gardening ? Old clothes, straw hat ?
“SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARDENER, SAITH UNTO HIM” (John 20:15).
Jesus pbuh was in disguise. He was disguised in such a way that not even Mary recognised him. He was disguised because the Jews tried to kill him.
Think about it. All the holy pictures show Jesus pbuh in a white robe with a halo
Cover Story: The Story of Easter - April 2006
It was nothing like this. He was dressed in old gardening clothes so that no one recognised him. He had conquered death, but was still hiding from the Jews in old gardeners clothes ?

Interesting that Judas death is in total confusing as well. Did he kill himself or did he commit suicide ?

Just as God saved Abraham from the fire, Jesus was saved from the cross. There have been so many clues left for a person with an open heart to pick up. Start your journey to find the truth, you may not have much time left. God will ask you on judgement day why you did not use the brain he gave you to find him.


Or that she knew the Messiah to be 'dead' and placed in the Tomb that she would of not of considered it could of been Him standing there in front of her.... She went to His Body and found Him standing before her...

Read how He said her name and then she knew it was her Master.....

The blindness of the Jews would of had them denounce it was He and would of charged Him has an Imposter seeking to dupe people..... they played there part.

The Messiah appeared to those He was to appear to, those that loved Him and that would obey Him.
 

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Why was the brother of Jesus James letters not included ? They apparently found his letters and this documentary looks at what it contains.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDrObm8aotM&feature=related
Why are you here at this website, spreading islamic messages?
 

loveme1

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Or that she knew the Messiah to be 'dead' and placed in the Tomb that she would of not of considered it could of been Him standing there in front of her.... She went to His Body and found Him standing before her...

Read how He said her name and then she knew it was her Master.....

The blindness of the Jews would of had them denounce it was He and would of charged Him has an Imposter seeking to dupe people..... they played there part.

The Messiah appeared to those He was to appear to, those that loved Him and that would obey Him.

Just to say that i only offered an example of the mentality of the Jews at that time... the Messiah did not go into hiding after faking his death.... and the whole thing is just another attempt on the Truth.

This is the first i have seen of this kind.
 

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John 19:30

[SUP]30[/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished": and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

The trick is knowing what //IT is..because //IT is very important information to know
I was wondering if anyone would post John 19:30 and for the it was is "IT", that it is finished that is the Law and Prophets that he came to fill as Jesus said:
[h=3]Matthew 5:17[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Christ Fulfills the Law[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Then he went out showing us our inability to do the law as in being oerfect in and of ourselves along with all the healings which prooved he was from God the Father sent by God the Father. In John he talks openly to Father about doing allk Father asked for him to do and did it he then goes to the cross and as he is about to die he yells out IT (the fulfillment of law and prophets) is done he took away the first that he may establish the second, a new covenant as in hebrews

[h=3]Hebrews 9:15-17[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
[h=3]The Mediator’s Death Necessary[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
Christ is the dividing line of Human history before the cross and after it. Time to stop mixing Law and grace Oil and water does not mix but you can stir it up and it will appear to mix but it does not the same with Law and Grace it does not mix
In Love homwardbound
 

homwardbound

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The biggest event in history with so many witnesses and there is total confusion on what his last words were.
Jonah was in the sea-monster’s belly for three days and three nights, and in the same way the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth.
This was Jesus understanding on what was to happen.

The key phrase here is in the same way. If Jesus was dead for three days then he did not spend it in the same way as Jonah spent it.

How do you dress when you do gardening ? Old clothes, straw hat ?
“SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARDENER, SAITH UNTO HIM” (John 20:15).
Jesus pbuh was in disguise. He was disguised in such a way that not even Mary recognised him. He was disguised because the Jews tried to kill him.
Think about it. All the holy pictures show Jesus pbuh in a white robe with a halo
Cover Story: The Story of Easter - April 2006
It was nothing like this. He was dressed in old gardening clothes so that no one recognised him. He had conquered death, but was still hiding from the Jews in old gardeners clothes ?

Interesting that Judas death is in total confusing as well. Did he kill himself or did he commit suicide ?

Just as God saved Abraham from the fire, Jesus was saved from the cross. There have been so many clues left for a person with an open heart to pick up. Start your journey to find the truth, you may not have much time left. God will ask you on judgement day why you did not use the brain he gave you to find him.


in using my listening skills he gave me I heard this Matthew 5:17 the purpose for Jesus to have been here was to do this
Then after doing this by signs and wonders John 19:30 He states it is finished and then dies, what was finished obviously his Job here on earth was finished his Job was to fullfill the Law and Prophets then after this a new covenant was put in place of the old Covenant Hebrews 9:15-17 and Hebrews 10:17 comes to be in place after one recives the new covenant and Father is now dealing with the believer on the basis of a new nature ( no longer on the basis of sin and death as was in the Old covenant) teaching the believer how to say no to unrighteousness through trusting Father to do this by his love found in 1 Cor 13 wanting each believer to recieve this type of love and give this type of love out which the law is filled in you by this.
Now for those that are going to point out Matthew 5:18 that it is not fullfilled you are right to only to a certain extent and that extent is to those that have not yet come to belief in what is posted above and they are still under the Law the school master, in need to come to belief and see that it is finished done and when in him one seeks new life and gets it for anything you ask for you shall recieve it and I think what all need is a new life in Christ if they have not gotten it yet, and it can and is but not always a tough road to get there in him safe and secure while in the midst of any adversity forthe world does not want anyone to cross over thier picket line, but once oyu cross over WOW!!!!! I personally do not ever see wanting to go back to the world's camp
 

homwardbound

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Just to say that i only offered an example of the mentality of the Jews at that time... the Messiah did not go into hiding after faking his death.... and the whole thing is just another attempt on the Truth.

This is the first i have seen of this kind.
The proof of his death is that he was dead for three days and this proof was needed for the new covenant to take place in him as one would read in Hebrews 9:15-17 which also tells us that everything prior to the death and proof was under the Old Covenant in Matt, Mark, Luke and John, if we want to rightly divide the word of truth
 

loveme1

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The proof of his death is that he was dead for three days and this proof was needed for the new covenant to take place in him as one would read in Hebrews 9:15-17 which also tells us that everything prior to the death and proof was under the Old Covenant in Matt, Mark, Luke and John, if we want to rightly divide the word of truth
You will understand that the person who offered this may not be aware of many things.

It seems like a well the Almighty could of saved the Messiah... little do they know that this happened for Good and indeed the Almighty God can deliver us from evil... that is never in doubt.

Those who know Scripture will be of a different mind but this man is a little stumped i believe...


Matthew 26

51And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. 52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?54But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
 

loveme1

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Jacobs, this may help you understand why the Messiah died... then was raised from the dead.


Romans 8

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
[SUP]32 [/SUP]He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
[SUP]33 [/SUP]Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
[SUP]36 [/SUP]As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.