Joshua 10:13 "And the sun stood still..."

[ServantHood]

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the middle of heaven, and hurried not to go down about a whole day.

God a liar? Or was we deceived to believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun? N.A.S.A, while during their equation to land on the Moon, the variable for Earth was always stationary (not moving), while taking account the Moon isn't stationary, but moving. Helicentrism vs. Geocentrism, which one do you believe? Please take note that Geocentrism (Earth doesn't move, Sun + Planets revolve around Earth) was in fact never disproved.

 

[John_S]

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the middle of heaven, and hurried not to go down about a whole day.

God a liar? Or was we deceived to believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun? N.A.S.A, while during their equation to land on the Moon, the variable for Earth was always stationary (not moving), while taking account the Moon isn't stationary, but moving. Helicentrism vs. Geocentrism, which one do you believe? Please take note that Geocentrism (Earth doesn't move, Sun + Planets revolve around Earth) was in fact never disproved.

I feel sorry for you.

 

[nathan3]

If you can make the thread more plain., Then people might understand what your talking about. The earth just revolves around, and some say even forward with the sun trailing behind it. .

Joshua 10:13 "And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, Until the People had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."

What stands out is the word moon here. There is prophecy given in Revelation about Antichrist , in months. Months is lunar , having to do with the moon. So it looks like there maybe is a teaching there, or a type.

Take a look at this scripture.

I Thessalonians 4:4 - 6 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief." [4] "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. [5] "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others but let us watch and be sober." [6]

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Another thought, there is a scripture I remember about God stopping time or something. I can not remember. I need to find that scripture, but its not the one you posted.

 

[nathan3]

meaning the earth trailing behind the sun along with the other planets.

 

[reject-tech]

Ok, I'll try a less demeaning way of responding than the original response -

Would it really matter which one orbits which if it all happened in order to teach that *something* (represented by the sun) stood still, and *something* (represented by the moon) stayed, until the people had avenged themselves against their enemies?
- Which should be much more important information to a believer than any malicious agenda NASA might have.

And that the "book of Jasher" is a reference to the state of mind of a person when he reads any scripture, rather than some external book that God would bother mentioning but not ensuring for our reference? As if man could contradictorily out-power God by "hiding" or "destroying" important scripture that He might have referenced?

Best bet is to love others and let that experience open the word.
Cause not everyone can master physics, but everyone can love and thus "avenge" themselves upon their enemies.

 

[posthuman]

Isaiah 66:1

This is what the LORD says: "Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool."

are you saying that God's throne revolves around His footstool again?



i'm sure that if the ancient Hebrews had regularly traveled into space and sent craft to other planets, the Lord may have phrased things a little differently.
as it stands, there's this concept called 'point of reference' that i think you're really missing out on. if you and i are in a car together and i ask you to pick up an object laying on the dashboard, i'm going to say "it's laying on the dashboard" -- i'm not going to say "it's travelling at 65mph and in contact with the dashboard that is also travelling at 65mph"
as far as the two of us are concerned, in the car, the object is 'stationary'
to someone on the side of the road, or someone in another car that isn't travelling at the same speed as ours, it's not stationary.

i don't see any point in discussing that any further.

 

[konroh]

Here's a more likely answer to this problem: taken from Dr. Claude Mariottini - Professor of Old Testament: Rereading Joshua 10:12-13: The Long Day of Joshua

In Hebrew, the word translated “stand still” literally means “be silent.” In this context, Joshua was commanding the sun “to be silent,” that is, to keep from shining. Since the sun was rising in the east, his command to the sun was that it refrains from shining.

When Joshua came to fight against the Amorites, he came at night and caught them by surprise. Joshua was aided by the darkness caused by a huge storm that produced hail so big that it killed many people. In fact, the biblical text says that more people died from the hailstones than the people of Israel killed with the sword.

Since the hailstorm did not affect the army of Israel, Joshua needed the storm to last so that the hail could continue decimating the army of the Amorites. Consequently, Joshua’s prayer was for more darkness (the continuation of the storm) and not for more light. The reason Joshua’s army did not kill many soldiers was because the storm prevailed most of that day.

The view that Joshua prayed for more darkness is in agreement with the biblical text because the sun stood still (was silent, did not shine) for a whole day. This view also allows for a better understanding of the text without forcing upon it an interpretation that would require the reversal of the laws of physics.

 

[directline2iam]

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the middle of heaven, and hurried not to go down about a whole day.

God a liar? Or was we deceived to believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun? N.A.S.A, while during their equation to land on the Moon, the variable for Earth was always stationary (not moving), while taking account the Moon isn't stationary, but moving. Helicentrism vs. Geocentrism, which one do you believe? Please take note that Geocentrism (Earth doesn't move, Sun + Planets revolve around Earth) was in fact never disproved.

How about I believe you don't understand the meaning of the scripture. Read your bible, it itself will disprove.

 

[Zmouth]

If you had been there with him in the beginning you would know that is absolutely 100% true

The earth and moon did not rotate because the celestial body we call the sun didn't shine

Genesis 1:2 [link]

 

[4enlightment]

And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves on their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the middle of heaven, and hurried not to go down about a whole day.

God a liar? Or was we deceived to believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun? N.A.S.A, while during their equation to land on the Moon, the variable for Earth was always stationary (not moving), while taking account the Moon isn't stationary, but moving. Helicentrism vs. Geocentrism, which one do you believe? Please take note that Geocentrism (Earth doesn't move, Sun + Planets revolve around Earth) was in fact never disproved.

e·ter·nal(

-tûr

n

l)adj.1. Being without beginning or end; existing outside of time. See Synonyms at infinite.
2. Continuing without interruption; perpetual.
3. Forever true or changeless: eternal truths.
4. Seemingly endless; interminable. See Synonyms at ageless, continual.
5. Of or relating to spiritual communion with God, especially in the afterlife.

n.1. Something timeless, uninterrupted, or endless.
2. Eternal God. Used with the.

When all things has stopped, no motion means that there were in the eternal realm of some sort. There's no measurement for a day or to tell what part of the day that they were in. They could have had fought for months, but to them it would of had seem as if it were a split moment, with no type of aging effect like being tired or exhausted.

 

[directline2iam]

e·ter·nal(

-tûr

n

l)adj.1. Being without beginning or end; existing outside of time. See Synonyms at infinite.
2. Continuing without interruption; perpetual.
3. Forever true or changeless: eternal truths.
4. Seemingly endless; interminable. See Synonyms at ageless, continual.
5. Of or relating to spiritual communion with God, especially in the afterlife.

n.1. Something timeless, uninterrupted, or endless.
2. Eternal God. Used with the.

When all things has stopped, no motion means that there were in the eternal realm of some sort. There's no measurement for a day or to tell what part of the day that they were in. They could have had fought for months, but to them it would of had seem as if it were a split moment, with no type of aging effect like being tired or exhausted.

Unless I'm mistaken your last sentence is incorrect.. tired or exhausted? Do you recall whom it was that held up their arms and while up the Isrealites were kicking butt, and who stepped in and helped hold up who's arms when they became very tired?

 

[loveme1]

I believe GOD.

To think that GOD is restricted to the "logic" of man is self-defeating.

If GOD says east is west and west is east then it is so.

 

[4enlightment]

Unless I'm mistaken your last sentence is incorrect.. tired or exhausted? Do you recall whom it was that held up their arms and while up the Isrealites were kicking butt, and who stepped in and helped hold up who's arms when they became very tired?

The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day. 14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the Lord listened to a human being.

 

[Bryancampbell]

I believe the earth stopped or slowed on its axis, which on earth perspective would look like sun is stopped because the sun goes from east to west on ground perception. But why would I worry if it's another explanation, God works in miraculous ways. So the sun did stop in the sky, literally. It stood still in our sky, not the solar system. I guess you got to look at it in different angles of perception.

 

[Zmouth]

I believe GOD.

To think that GOD is restricted to the "logic" of man is self-defeating.

If GOD says east is west and west is east then it is so.

That's what John 8:44 says

 

[oldhermit]

The sun standing still is only from the perspective of man. In order for the sun to appear to stand still in the sky would require the halting of the earth's rotation. To me this really adds to the incredible nature of the event. How do you explain the earth halting it rotational pattern without suffering the impact of the sudden collapse of gravitational forces. If the earth were to suddenly and immediately stop on its axis, everything on the surface would be flung into space, all land masses would collide resulting in catastrophic global seismic disruption and massive land tsunamis. This was most certainly not a natural event but a supernatural one. What this shows us is that creation is not ultimately governed by natural law but by the power of God who can suspend the laws of physics that regulate earth's movements and still keep everything in its place. To me, this was one of the most incredible events since the beginning of creation itself.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Or [were] we deceived to believe that the Earth orbits around the Sun?

Exactly. Galileo proved nothing. The Earth doesn't move.

 

[ServantHood]

How about I believe you don't understand the meaning of the scripture. Read your bible, it itself will disprove.

How about you get behind me satan? If you can't have respect for a decent conversation and want to start useless and disorder, i suggest you get out of here and learn what God taught us all, it's called respect and love for one another. Also, read your Bible about treating others the way you want to be treated. Then you can come back at me, and I'll answer your questions. To he who has friends, he must show himself friendly. God bless, learn Jesus. Not disrespect.

 

[ServantHood]

Exactly. Galileo proved nothing. The Earth doesn't move.

Thanks for the encouragement, I don't feel so alone now. Especially after God showed me this in a very personal and intimate way.

 

[2Thewaters]

Josh 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Bible says

the sun STOPPED and the moon STOPPED.
instantly
God held them together without them disrupting

God is no wimp
he doesnt need billions of years to make things happen and wait for it
when he creates all things new after the lake of fire that engulfs the whole earth we will not stand their for billions of years
it will take six days again and again the Sabbath