Joyce Meyer

[RoboOp]

You can look at her website. She does not at all present herself as doing women's ministry. Rather, she is presented as one of the world's leading practical Bible teachers, as an ordained minister, and former assistant pastor of a church, and it says she currently does the preaching in church on Sundays at a certain church.

So don't deny reality -- she does teach and have authority over men in the church, period. And that's unbiblical. (And yah she's had some pretty questionable teaching -- I can post an audio here if you like).

Women who want to "preach" could do a whole lot more good by preaching these womanly things to other women, like Paul suggested they do (as AnandaHya quoted):

4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.

I saw Joyce Meyer on TV a couple weeks ago, and I tell you the truth, this was definitely not the direction of her teaching. In fact it was very much the opposite direction. Anywayz.

 

[Abiding]

So great Joyce teaches woman...I agree that is one thing I agree with her on. Teaches what? There is
the trouble.

Funny? Oh there ya go....that certainly proves everything..hmmm like that Cajun who talks to Jesus all the time..right!

We have an open admission right on this thread that someone is a fan and doest even know what joyce teaches on what?
Oh ..no big deal....just the atonement....so dont be such a judgemental poop.

 

[cronjecj]

They also used to stone people to death. I pray no ones picking up any stones to throw at you.

What are you implying here? That law was one of those that Moses wrote in the old covenant. We are now in the new covenant, don't you now that? Don't quote something that is not in the bible. Please don't be so naive to accept everything that comes your way.

 

[cronjecj]

So don't deny reality -- she does teach and have authority over men in the church, period. And that's unbiblical. (And yah she's had some pretty questionable teaching -- I can post an audio here if you like).

Women who want to "preach" could do a whole lot more good by preaching these womanly things to other women, like Paul suggested they do (as AnandaHya quoted):

More truth spoken here.

 

[AnandaHya]

You can look at her website. She does not at all present herself as doing women's ministry. Rather, she is presented as one of the world's leading practical Bible teachers, as an ordained minister, and former assistant pastor of a church, and it says she currently does the preaching in church on Sundays at a certain church.

So don't deny reality -- she does teach and have authority over men in the church, period. And that's unbiblical. (And yah she's had some pretty questionable teaching -- I can post an audio here if you like).

Women who want to "preach" could do a whole lot more good by preaching these womanly things to other women, like Paul suggested they do (as AnandaHya quoted):

4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.

I saw Joyce Meyer on TV a couple weeks ago, and I tell you the truth, this was definitely not the direction of her teaching. In fact it was very much the opposite direction. Anywayz.

can you post the audio?

I know someone who is a big fan and actually loaned me a few of her audio cds.

At the time I didn't see too many teachings that when against God's words, but the same can be said about Buddhist moral laws concerning compassion, loving kindness, karma, etc.

I found it was not what was taught that was so wrong but what was lacking or not taught in the message that made all the difference. Where is Jesus in the message of so many word of Faith preachers?

Why do so many of them love money and worldly possessions and teach other to covet and "speak into existence' their fleshly desires and deluded dreams instead of praying and asking GOD HIS will for their life and thanking Him for His abundance and providence for the many things He has ALREADY given us?

I like these verses when I encounter a word of Faith follower

1 Timothy 6:17-19

New King James Version (NKJV)

17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18 Let them do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to give, willing to share, 19 storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

God did not give so that we may spend upon our own lusts but so that we might do GOOD WORKS, ready to give, willing to share and show GOD's love to others. Yes we ENJOY what God gives us and we praise and Thank Him for it but we do not place trust in those riches but in the LIVING GOD who gave it to us in the first place.

The pastor asked us "What do you REALLY need that God has not already given you?"

 

[RoboOp]

Here's the audio for all the Joyce Meyer fans:

Joyce Meyer Error

Eat it up.

Some good extrabiblical nuggets there, like "it's cold in hell".

 

[Kooper]

So great Joyce teaches woman...I agree that is one thing I agree with her on. Teaches what? There is
the trouble.

Funny? Oh there ya go....that certainly proves everything..hmmm like that Cajun who talks to Jesus all the time..right!

We have an open admission right on this thread that someone is a fan and doest even know what joyce teaches on what?
Oh ..no big deal....just the atonement....so dont be such a judgemental poop.

Well, forgive me for being ignorant.

 

[Abiding]

Well, forgive me for being ignorant.

Hey....i wasnt infering you were ignorant. BUT...you should beware of ministers of light.
Acts 17:11 let that be some help. Humor is a tool both for good and evil. Dont be taken
away by it.

 

[JohnChingford2007]

You can look at her website. She does not at all present herself as doing women's ministry. Rather, she is presented as one of the world's leading practical Bible teachers, as an ordained minister, and former assistant pastor of a church, and it says she currently does the preaching in church on Sundays at a certain church.

So don't deny reality -- she does teach and have authority over men in the church, period. And that's unbiblical. (And yah she's had some pretty questionable teaching -- I can post an audio here if you like).

Women who want to "preach" could do a whole lot more good by preaching these womanly things to other women, like Paul suggested they do (as AnandaHya quoted):

4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.

I saw Joyce Meyer on TV a couple weeks ago, and I tell you the truth, this was definitely not the direction of her teaching. In fact it was very much the opposite direction. Anywayz.

Thanks Robo Op
I stand corrected! I have heard Joyce a number of times on audio addressing womens conferences and heard her message directed towards women. She has quoted her husband as the one who speaks to the men. Therefore, I wrongly assumed that she ministered only to women. Therefore, this puts Word Of Faith and Joyce in an even darker place than I realised.

I have listened to your audio. Basically she condemns herself by her own lips. The worst part was saying that Jesus ceased to be the Son Of God and that Jesus became a sinner and that He needed to be born again in hell. What blasphemy!

Those who think it is good to listen to "funny" preachers. Why don't you just listen to an ungodly comedian. if laughter is what your looking for. Our message is serious. It is a matter of eternal life or eternal separation - no laughing matter. Our Christian life is not about fun and laughter but about dedication to Christ. There will be joy, but joy is not the same as happiness. I wrote an article on that subject on this link:

Difference Between Joy And Happiness

 

[Abiding]

Joyce teaches occult methods to "improve your life."
What she does with the "blood of Jesus" is simply abominable.
Its like mantras with magic, a mix of pagan craft.

 

[loveschild]

You can look at her website. She does not at all present herself as doing women's ministry. Rather, she is presented as one of the world's leading practical Bible teachers, as an ordained minister, and former assistant pastor of a church, and it says she currently does the preaching in church on Sundays at a certain church.

So don't deny reality -- she does teach and have authority over men in the church, period. And that's unbiblical. (And yah she's had some pretty questionable teaching -- I can post an audio here if you like).

Women who want to "preach" could do a whole lot more good by preaching these womanly things to other women, like Paul suggested they do (as AnandaHya quoted):

4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.

I saw Joyce Meyer on TV a couple weeks ago, and I tell you the truth, this was definitely not the direction of her teaching. In fact it was very much the opposite direction. Anywayz.

1. Matthew 7:1
   DO NOT judge and criticize and condemn others, so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves.
   Matthew 7:1-3 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)

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7. God called and used women preachers in the Old Testament.

a. DEBORAH - Judges 4:4-5. Deborah was a Judge for both civil and criminal cases. The children of Israel came to her for judgment. She was the chief ruler of Israel for 40 years, giving orders to the Generals and all the army. She did the work of an evangelist, prophetess, Judge, and a preacher. God gave her authority over the mighty (Judges 5:13).

b. MIRIAM - Exodus 15:20; Numbers 12:1; Micah 6:4. She was a Prophetess and a Song Leader in Israel.

c. HULDAH - 2 Kings 22:14. Five men went to Sister Huldah and communed with her. She spoke to a congregation of men concerning the book of the Law. A female preached to a man's congregation, and her message was taken to the nation and produced a revival.

d. MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ'S MOTHER - Isaiah 8:3. She was a prophetess.

8. God called and used women preachers in the New Testament.

a. The first message of the Resurrection of Christ was spoken by women to a group of men.

b. Anna - Luke 2:36-38. She must have prophesied in church, because she did not depart from the temple.

c. Phillip had 4 daughters who prophesied. Acts 21:9.

d. Priscilla assisted Paul in his revival meeting and even taught Apollos in the way of the Lord more perfectly.

e. Phebe - Romans 16:1-2. Paul commended Phoebe to the Church at Rome and requested that they assist her in her business. She was one of Paul's assistants in the work of the Lord and delivered the Book of Romans to the people from the hand of Paul.

9. There is no sound reason why a woman or man should not preach the Gospel. There is a desperate need in the church for more workers. Laborers are few, and God will use any and all who will go for Him. Some say God will not use a woman to preach, because "The woman was deceived," but remember Romans 5:12: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world." It seems to indicate that Adam was just as guilty as Eve in the fall of man. If anyone should be kept from preaching because of sin, it would be Adam. But God does not forbid anyone from preaching, because of Adam's or Eve's sin.



I been wondering why the door from hell is wide open in this place now I know why.
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[Abiding]

Wow this is a bible forum. Personal attacks against the administrator like this is slanderous
especially from a post that preaches not to judge, and condemn...then judges and condemns. Wow!

 

[YoghurtGal]

Wow this is a bible forum. Personal attacks against the administrator like this is slanderous
especially from a post that preaches not to judge, and condemn...then judges and condemns. Wow!

Lol. Nice one there.

 

[Abiding]

Lol. Nice one there.

Hey yur new!! Welcome...Heres your new person welcome treat

 

[YoghurtGal]

Hey yur new!! Welcome...Heres your new person welcome treat

Lol. Thanks.... :S

 

[shekaniah]

Scripture also tells us not to put our trust in mortal man.

1 Corinthians 14: 34-35
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission,
as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home;
for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

They said this because most women in that region were uneducated, and that it would be hard for them to teach.

Psalm 146:3Do not put your trust in princes,
in mortal men, who cannot save.
4When their spirit departs, they return to the ground;
on that very day their plans come to nothing.
5Blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
whose hope is in the Lord his God,
6the Maker of heaven and earth,
the sea, and everything in them—
the Lord, who remains faithful forever.
7He upholds the cause of the oppressed
and gives food to the hungry.
The Lord sets prisoners free,
8the Lord gives sight to the blind,
the Lord lifts up those who are bowed down,
the Lord loves the righteous.
9The Lord watches over the alien
and sustains the fatherless and the widow,
but he frustrates the ways of the wicked.

I pray that we all put our main hope in Jesus and His teaching.

 

[JohnChingford2007]

Loveschild

Do you use a highlighter pen to highlight passages in the bible?

If you do, I suggest that you take time-out to read everything that has not been highlighted. Maybe then you will not preach from a biassed point of view. Every example you used has been taken completely out of context with a real feminist slant on it. I could (if I had time) go through each one and show you that they were not taking authority over men. Even Feminists champion Deborah recognised that she should not be leading the men. Read the story again.

“Very well,” Deborah said, “I will go with you. But because of the way you are going about this, the honor will not be yours, for the LORD will hand Sisera over to a woman.” Deborah understood that it was a shameful thing for a woman to lead men into victory. She tried to encourage Barak to lead Israel to victory. Why did God choose Deborah as a judge (at that Time) you only have to read the dreadful state Israel was in and their abominable sins. God's choice would be a man , but He chose a woman because He couldn't find an obedient man. In another case He even use an ass to speak the voice of God. I think in this case a woman was better than an ass.

Besides, this is the OT. Under NT we are in a new dispensation, anyway. Maybe spiritual leadership is different from leading a physical army. Jesus chose 12 men to be the foundation of the church. The foundation of Israel was also 12 men. Regarding Pricilla. It doesn't say that she spoke to Appollos.

 

[AnandaHya]

Hey yur new!! Welcome...Heres your new person welcome treat

nice healthy I like

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Amazingly, no one seems to realize how Trinitarianism feeds into this kind of heretical garbage.

If Jesus were understood and acknowledged to truly BE God in the flesh, not just deity or divine as 1/3 of God and separate as a God-"person"; there'd be no way "in hell" He could suffer "in hell". Trinitarians are blind to the far-reaching problems with "threeness".

 

[BrittanyJones]

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

2 Corinthians 11:3-4