Jude condemns “grace-only without obedience” believers to hell

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oldethennew

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how long is it going to take those who are preaching the Truth, to realize that the 'hired-help' are only
here to cause descension to keep threads going??? this is a business, not a Christian Chat or Church...

clearly such as fnc and many others have no understanding or real love for our blessed Saviour...
it is what it is!:rolleyes:
 
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FreeNChrist

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oldethennew said:
how long is it going to take those who are preaching the Truth, to realize that the 'hired-help' are only
here to cause descension to keep threads going??? this is a business, not a Christian Chat or Church...

clearly such as fnc and many others have no understanding or real love for our blessed Saviour...
it is what it is!:rolleyes:
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More irony..... :rolleyes:
 
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The FNC,

What are you doing with all of God's dire warnings written to the churches in the NT?
(Not to mention all of Jesus' dire warnings in the 4 gospels.)

Your answer: I'm ignoring them, and I'm proud of it.
 
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ZacharyB

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Colossians 3:21
“Fathers, don’t scold your children so much that they become discouraged and quit trying.”

This is a nice parallel hint as to why God catches the little fishes with easy-grace verses such as
your favorite, John 3:16 … before giving them the real low-down on what is expected of them.

The little baby fishes who are flapping around can only handle milk at first … milk before meat, right?
The meat of the NT is all of those dozens of dire warnings about sinning (which are somewhat hidden).
God hates sin! ... But, believers think they can sin habitually and get into heaven!

Believers have the Holy Spirit, which is trying to help them and lead them into all Truth.
But, we have free will.

Yes, we have a 3 against 1 battle going on …
Satan, the western church, and our flesh vs. the Holy Spirit.
Please allow the Holy Spirit to win!
 
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The verse is actually saying that these people are exchanging grace for licentiousness - which means without restraint. Not receiving the grace of God - verse 4 is not saying it's ok to live how you want because of grace. That is the distortion that is man-made in the OP's "version" of Jude 1:4.
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Oh yes... ye olde false grace message perpetrated by popular TV preachers teaching "once saved, always saved" and "all future sins are already forgiven" leading people to live in sloppy agape.

Nothing like a little false grace in the morning with your coffee!
 
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FreeNChrist

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ZacharyB said:
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The FNC,

What are you doing with all of God's dire warnings written to the churches in the NT?
(Not to mention all of Jesus' dire warnings in the 4 gospels.)

Your answer: I'm ignoring them, and I'm proud of it.
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There's your habitual sin of judging others hearts and self righteousness rearing its ugly head yet again. Just how long have you been habitual sinning?
 
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Whassup

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Hey, you're the one rejecting God's warnings in scripture... that;'s not going to end well...
 
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Whassup

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You must be one of those that idlize joseph prince, and mr osteen and all those other make believe preachers...

Are ya?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Whassup said:
You must be one of those that idlize joseph prince, and mr osteen and all those other make believe preachers...

Are ya?
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LOL. Nope, I "idlize" no man.
 
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oldethennew

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sometimes, without realizing it, we tend to idolize ourselves without even knowing it...
hopefully, prayerfully -
Jesus will open our eyes and bring us into His Reality, for it would be our only way
to enter into His saving Grace...
 
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