Kingdom of God V.S the Kingdom of the Devil

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Hey Doc. you ever wonder why they pushed that Mayan calendar 2012 thing so hard in the last 10-15 years?
 
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Well hows about you give me your version of the biblical def. then Doc.?

Who's def. is the biblical def.

What man or men defined it?

There is a difference between using an analoogy as a parable vs a parable as a definitive especially when viewed in context with the words immediately before them or aft.
Let me help YOU find it eh?

What does revelation say will happen when satan is loosed from his binding?
 
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so you believe that its not until the axe drops that the executioner has been summoned?
Oops you moved the goalposts.

First you said the ROUNDING UP.

Now your saying when the axe drops.
 
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I know that the world is being decieved, given over to their own lusts, I know that its not "hip" to be a christian, in fact its downright hard these days.. Even in my own household. I know that for many countries around the world they ARE being rounded up and murdered, so I don't know why you seem to believe this has to happen all at once or its not happening at all.
Are all the nations totally deceived and gathered togaether to do battle against the saints?

Yes or no?

Are you living relatively comfortably in your Christian life yes or no?
 
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REALLY? .........................LOOK AROUND YOU DOC................Its all around you
No, its not all around me. I'm living a life of great worldly comfort and peace (not that it matters much, I have peace and joy in the spiritual domain.)


Who is the second Roman Empire?
The daughter of the mother of harlots.
 
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Let me help YOU find it eh?

What does revelation say will happen when satan is loosed from his binding?
Rev.
refers to after the 1000 years with Christ present here on earth after his second coming

This hasn't happened yet.
 
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Rev.
refers to after the 1000 years with Christ present here on earth after his second coming

This hasn't happened yet.
You didnt answer the question:

What does revelation say will happen when satan is loosed from his binding?

What will he do?


And scripture NEVER talks about Christ coming back from heaven to earth at His second coming.
 
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Here I'll make it easier for you...I'll post the relevant verses:

BINDING

(Revelation 20:3) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

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LOOSING

(Revelation 20:7) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

(Revelation 20:8) And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

(Revelation 20:9) And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


What is satan bound from doing?

This is not rocket surgery mate?
 
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so you believe that everything that has happened up until revelations 20 has occurred? I haven't ignored your last post for me, I'm gathering :)
 
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so you believe that everything that has happened up until revelations 20 has occurred? I haven't ignored your last post for me, I'm gathering :)
The book of Rev is not in chronological order.

If you ask me about specific verses then I can answer.
 
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I believe that the nations are totally together and ready to make war with the saints Yes, I expect the move to come any day now. Am I relatively comfortable in my christian life? NO, there is nothing comfortable about my christian life. this world is set against me. My family is not saved, and every second of every day there are temptations and heresies abounding in the entirety of the world.. you mentioned a strong man in Matthew 12 being bound. but here in luke11 we find the same story, but a slightly different picture.
20But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

21When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: 22But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

here it seems He is just talking about how he casts evil spirits out of people. Being stronger than the strong man. I guess its all just in the context of how we "choose" to word it.

brb with more on chronological order
 
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okay, why do you believe its not in chronological order?
 
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Gog is the Eastern empire as in China today as in 200million footsoldiers u know where that is don't ya Doc.

Magog is the Western Empire as in America home of the U.N. headquarters "New York, Babylon The Great mystery, The second Roman Empire just take a look at the architecture in Washington D.C.
 
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And scripture NEVER talks about Christ coming back from heaven to earth at His second coming. (strangelove quote)

the bible does talk about christs second return from heaven to earth. You may consider it petty, but that whole NEVER is incorrect.
 
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Powerful word Ramon devil is tired up in Jesus name!!
 
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I believe that the nations are totally together and ready to make war with the saints Yes, I expect the move to come any day now.
Cant be. Christians are living freely and happily in all nations of the world. So far.

It's coming though.

Am I relatively comfortable in my christian life? NO, there is nothing comfortable about my christian life. this world is set against me. My family is not saved, and every second of every day there are temptations and heresies abounding in the entirety of the world..
Family? Christianity is a personal religion....I wouldnt stree about it too much. Jesus came to set families at variance.

I wouldnt worry about the world being set against you...thats menna happen too. We are called out of the world. Set apart.

you mentioned a strong man in Matthew 12 being bound. but here in luke11 we find the same story, but a slightly different picture.
20But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

21When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: 22But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

here it seems He is just talking about how he casts evil spirits out of people. Being stronger than the strong man. I guess its all just in the context of how we "choose" to word it.
Erm...no. IF satan casts out devils then the KINGDOM HAS COME.

He has overcome satan (the strong man). Sata is bound. Its the same as Matt.

No way to interpret it differently no matter how you choose to word it.
 
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okay, why do you believe its not in chronological order?
The verses run parallel with eachother. Showing the same timeframe from earth and then in heaven.

It's not like...one verse then the next verse further into the future.
 
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Gog is the Eastern empire as in China today as in 200million footsoldiers u know where that is don't ya Doc.

Magog is the Western Empire as in America home of the U.N. headquarters "New York, Babylon The Great mystery, The second Roman Empire just take a look at the architecture in Washington D.C.
Do you think 1st century Christians understood that NY was Babs the great??

lolz...

Or was Revelation not for them?

I will ak zone to give you a good study on who gog and magog is.

Hint....the people who impersonate the jews. The synagogue of satan.