"LET GOD LOVE YOU INSTEAD"

Grace777x70 · Mar 22, 2017

It is obvious that believing in Christ and walking in love are the commandments John is talking about. We keep His commandments by believing in what Christ has done for us and also we love now because He first loved us.

1 John 3:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

[SUP]24 [/SUP] The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Knowing His love releases His love in us that is the fruit of the Spirit within. Gal.5:22

Romans 5:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

Stephen63 · Mar 22, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

Perhaps you believe those are the only commandments because you believe the teachings of Jesus are void & OT, like Joseph Prince does.

What are the commands of Christ? | Institute in Basic Life Principles

These are only from Jesus Himself. The rest of the NT commandments are numerous throughout the epistles.

"Just believe & love Jesus"..... Your doctrine is a lazy & irresponsible one, isn't it?

joaniemarie · Mar 22, 2017

Stephen63 said:

It would seem so wouldn't it? But the simplicity of the of the Gospel makes it seem to us that it's lazy and irresponsible. But not according to the Bible. According to the Bible the way of salvation is foolishness unto man. 1 Cor.2:14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated.

The Bible says "In is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins."

We are told to see and recognize what is love and Who defines it. Do we want to go with His definition of love or ours? His love never changes. It stays the same. It doesn't shift like the wind during hard circumstances or after getting physically and mentally exhausted like man's love does. It's a sure and constant in our lives once we believe. And for those times when we waiver in our faith., His abiding love stands. And that is why He tells us to know the love of God in Christ. To learn about it and to lean hard on it.

We cannot lean hard on our own power of how much we can love. Faith is like a compass that always leads to the love of God in Christ that is always there. We can mark our course by it.

FreeNChrist · Mar 22, 2017

Stephen63 said:

If you do a little research on the Institute in Basic Life Principles and Bill Gothard, it will prove very enlightening as to just how deep Stephens legalism goes.

Grace777x70 · Mar 22, 2017

To keep the malice and slander down to a minimum - I will post these scriptures about "believing in Christ". I think I'll stick with Jesus on this issue. True salvation is by grace through faith alone in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection.

Mark 1:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

John 1:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 6:29 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."

John 20:31 (NASB)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

Acts 13:39 (KJV)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Acts 15:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Acts 16:30-31 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

[SUP]31 [/SUP] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

I could go on and on but this is more then enough. Salvation by grace through faith in what Christ has already done for us on the cross and resurrection will always be a stumbling block to those of us that have a D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness mindset.

Stephen63 · Mar 22, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

"A D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness" is what you always slap others with.

Yet, that's exactly what Joseph Prince did back in 1997..... created his own doctrine that dictated his own self-righteousness.

His own righteousness is so easy he doesn't get convicted of sin anymore.

He doesn't have to repent anymore.

He doesn't have to change or grow anymore, because he's saved, no matter what.

He never has to be cautious about desiring riches anymore like Jesus warned His disciples about when He told the rich young ruler what he needed to do.

Several months ago on here I proved Joseph Prince was plagiarizing others' devotions by finding them written by others with an earlier date on them.

I guess he doesn't worry about having good ethics either.

All he has to do now is believe in the same Jesus whose words he rejects as OT, & say he loves God.

Jesus said "if you love me, keep my commandments". Plural. Obedience.

Prince has stripped all the things Jesus said was necessary out of his plan of "righteousness", creating a "DIY self-righteousness"

What is the "DIY" part, you say? Making himself righteous by writing his own rules.

Grace777x70 · Mar 23, 2017

Complete nonsense and just full of malice and slander again. This is not who we are in Christ. We should know better than this. It's time to grow up in the Lord and stop remaining spiritual babies by slandering others in the body of Christ and being malice-filled.

1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,

A D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness is not submitting to the righteousness of God which is by grace through faith in Christ alone and instead we think that we can create or maintain righteousness by what "we do or don't do" - just like the Jews thought.

Romans 10:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and "seeking to establish their own," they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Stephen63 · Mar 23, 2017

Your problem is you think it's alright to accept Jesus & believe in Him is all that matters in spite of God's standards.

We come to God HIS way, by HIS rules..... not the standards of a well-known heretic.

Grace777x70 · Mar 23, 2017

I didn't know that the apostle Paul was a well-known heretic. ( Although I have seen some heretic hunter websites that said Paul was a heretic because what he said "conflicted" with what they believed Jesus was saying. )

Wow...the things you see in some posts.

Paul and Silas certainly believed that we receive Christ and believe in what He has done in order to be saved. Paul also said - "as you have received Christ - which is by grace through faith in Christ's work alone - so walk in Him." Col. 2:6 and Eph. 2:7-10

Acts 16:28-31 (NASB)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] But Paul cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Do not harm yourself, for we are all here!"

[SUP]29 [/SUP] And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas,

[SUP]30 [/SUP] and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

[SUP]31 [/SUP] They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Stephen63 · Mar 23, 2017

Grace777x70 said:

I didn't know that the apostle Paul was a well-known heretic. ( Although I have seen some heretic hunter websites that said Paul was a heretic because what he said "conflicted" with what they believed Jesus was saying. )

Wow...the things you see in some posts.

Paul and Silas certainly believed that we receive Christ and believe in what He has done in order to be saved. Paul also said - "as you have received Christ - which is by grace through faith in Christ's work alone - so walk in Him." Col. 2:6 and Eph. 2:7-10

Acts 16:28-31 (NASB)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] But Paul cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Do not harm yourself, for we are all here!"

[SUP]29 [/SUP] And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas,

[SUP]30 [/SUP] and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

[SUP]31 [/SUP] They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Actually, since you brought it up, I was thinking about you.

gb9 · Mar 23, 2017

Stephen63 said:

well, are you going to attack grace7, or actually GRACE is what your attacking, or address the Scripture he posted? or do you have to check your denominational handbook first?

Stephen63 · Mar 23, 2017

gb9 said:

You are now on my ignore list.

QuikSand · Mar 23, 2017

The Gospel of Jesus the Christ

The gospel of Jesus the Christ is the good news.
The good news of grace and truth made known to this world through
the Holy Ghost by the name above all names Jesus the Christ the first born of God
the Son of the living God the son of man given birth by woman to which came from man.

For it is written in the Holy Bible...
the scriptures of truth inspired by God.

In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,

Which were born of God.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Have you received the Word?

If you will receive the Word
God will give you power to become a son of God.
And if you become a son of God by that power
You will become born of God.

And if you become born of God
You will cease from doing sin.

If we say we have sin and say we are born of God
then we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

When Christians tell you they still sin and are born of God...
they are liars. They are not born of God.

When preachers tell you
that even though you are born of God you will still sin....
they are liars. You are not born of God.

For it is written...

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Satan never wants you to believe or know
that by grace through faith in Jesus Christ
you can become born of God and never
commit another sin.

The reason Christians do not want to believe they can
live without committing sin is because they love there sins
more than God.

That is what it is all about.

The love of sin vs the love of God.

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