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jrccomputer

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Lets discuss: Mattew 7:7-8. I understand and know what it say. But, what I want to discuss is how we all pray for things that don't happen, so why when this verse say what it says.
 

Hizikyah

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Yaaqob4:3, "You ask, but do not receive, because you ask with wrong purposes, in order that you may spend it on your own lusts;"
 

Hizikyah

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or even worse:

Isayah 59:1-4, "Behold, Yahweh's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; nor His ear heavy, that it cannot hear. But your own iniquities have separated you from your Father; and your own sins have caused Him to hide His face from you, so He will not listen. For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; sin. Your lips have spoken lies, your tongue has muttered perverseness. No one calls for justice, nor does any plead for truth. They trust in vanity; and speak lies. They conceive mischief and give birth to evil;"
 

jrccomputer

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If that is the case why when you pray for someone with cancer to live they don't.

How is that praying for your own lust??
 

Hizikyah

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only Yahweh can say for sure, personally I always pray "if its your will Father" sometimes I forget because im slow, but I dont want to ask anything thats not His will.

This verses was pointed out to me some years ago:

Yahchanan (John) 17:9, "I pray for them. I do not pray for the world, but for those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours."
 

jrccomputer

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That's super powerful. Thanks man!!!
 

Hizikyah

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No prob, lets praise Yahweh togather!!!

HalleluYAHWEH!
 
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Yahweh = LOVE

GOD = Get Over Death/Satan = The Mission for ALL.

By the way, there is no one dying or dead yet; they are simply Passing Over, or, Away, from here that is :cool: Were headed for better things, remember?
 

jrccomputer

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Yahweh = LOVE

GOD = Get Over Death/Satan = The Mission for ALL.

By the way, there is no one dying or dead yet; they are simply Passing Over, or, Away, from here that is :cool: Were headed for better things, remember?
Thanks brother...^^great post!!
 
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Lets discuss: Mattew 7:7-8. I understand and know what it say. But, what I want to discuss is how we all pray for things that don't happen, so why when this verse say what it says.
Matthew 27:43He trusts in God. Let God rescue him now if he wants him, for he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’”

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
 

posthuman

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Proverbs 28:9
"He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination."


1 John 2:27-29
"But the anointing which ye have received from Him abideth in you, and ye have no need that any man teach you.
But as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He shall appear we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
If ye know that He is righteous, ye know that every one who doeth righteousness is born of Him.
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except that we pray in the Spirit, we pray from the flesh - even while we are crucified to it through Him - but the Spirit has become our instruction - so that when we walk in the light, we pray in the light; when we walk in His will, we pray in His will -- we are made righteous by His righteousness &

"
The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
James 5:16
 
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Isaiah 62
6 iI have set watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem;
They shall 6never hold their peace day or night.
You who 7make mention of the Lord, do not keep silent,
7 And give Him no rest till He establishes
And till He makes Jerusalem ja praise in the earth.
 
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reject-tech

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If that is the case why when you pray for someone with cancer to live they don't.

How is that praying for your own lust??
It isn't! It's the right state of heart. But there are things that one must do to be perfect, that is, to do real miracles, to become a "Son of man", what a human was meant to be able to do. Heal, walk on water, and so on.
You can have the heart, but you gotta back it up in the flesh.[SUP]

3 [/SUP]Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

You have to sell all that you own, give it to the poor, take off walking barefoot with no money, no survival supplies, and ask nobody for anything, not even insinuate need. So that your faith, and the hearts of those who see you will be tested. Someone will see you barefoot and freezing, and having had their heart tested, offer you shoes, a warm coat, food, a bed for the night, and so on. The worker is worthy of these minimum wages.

But you can't walk out on your moral and family responsibilities, those, you must wait to be taken out of the way.
Nobody has truly given up family for Jesus. But He will come like a thief.
You really owe that mortgage and child support, get ready for foreclosure and an ex-wife that flees with your child.

[SUP]30 [/SUP]And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

That certain man was Himself, but He didn't want to brag.

Nobody will do miracles in Jesus name until they have walked in His shoes.
Coming out of Babylon and Egypt and living on nothing but faith.
NO MATERIAL POSSESSIONS WHATSOEVER except the humblest of clothes to cover your nakedness, and two swords, a bible and a swiss army knife.

It's hardcore.
Hardcore.
Many are called but few are chosen.
Everyone else is gonna be alright.

Then came "God calls me beautiful" preaching in the wilderness, wearing sackcloth and eating grasshoppers.
And said, soon, I will become something I don't deserve to be.
Doh! My cousin beat me to it! But that's all good by me!

He carried His cross and was crucified long before they put a log on His shoulder and physically killed Him.


[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

[SUP]50 [/SUP]And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
[SUP]51 [/SUP]And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

[SUP]52 [/SUP]And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
[SUP]53 [/SUP]And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.


And that my friends, is how TV "healers", hospitals, insurance, and the need for commerce will crumble at the hands of the bride, right before He shows Himself in the sky.

And whatever city you enter in to, inquire - "Who is worthy?"
 
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BeanieD

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We should ALWAYS pray that God's will be done no matter what we feel. Sometimes His answers are not our desires, and He alone knows the desires of our hearts. Maybe in the case of the cancer, It was this persons time to go home. We weep and mourn those who are no longer with us because we miss them so much But if they know God, they are in a MUCH better place. A place of peace, which is where I hope to be when my time comes.