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mustaphadrink

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It has arisen with homosexuals because I can't really see a shop owner refusing a black because he or she is black.
It is against the law to refuse service on the basis the person is black. It is not against the law to refuse service because you are a Christian.

That would be obviously wrong. My worry is that next it will be muslims, blacks or whites, divorcees, gamblers, thieves and cons and then anyone who isn't christian or doesn't fit your moral code.
Non sequitir as most people do not go into a shop and say , I am a gambler and I want to order a cake or I am a divorcee so I want to order a cake.

An update though. The Colorado baker was deemed to be in the wrong and was ordered to cater regardless of what the food was for, and several states are taking on legislation similar to the Unruh Act in California, making it effectively illegal to refuse someone service on the basis of sexual preference.

I rest my case.
But his case isn't as he has appealed the ruling.
 

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You can get AIDS from a tattoo. And also from straight sex.
The possibility exists that tattooing can transmit even more harmful microbes, such as the viruses that cause hepatitis or AIDS, but there is little evidence of this actually happening. Patrick J. Skerrett, Executive Editor, Harvard Health

I stand by what I said bearing in mind that AIDS amongst homosexuals has increased 70% in the last 10 years.
 
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mustaphadrink

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You can get AIDS from a tattoo. And also from straight sex.
In the countries that we are living in, you can't get AIDS unless you have had sex with a homosexual who is a carrier or with someone who has had sex with a homosexual who is a carrier.

In places like Africa, AIDS is predominantly a hetro sex disease as homosexuality is almost unknown and most men show their manhood by producing babies which is not possible with homosexuality.

The reason that it is a hetro disease there is due to the same reason that it is a homo disease here. Promiscuity. When you see that some homosexuals have had sex with over 500 different people, one is not surprised at the outcome.

Uganda embarked upon a campaign to reduce the incident of AIDS. It was three pronged attack...1. Be celibate outside of marriage. 2. If you can't be celibate, always wear a condom. 3. Be faithful to your wife in marriage.

The end result was a reduction in AIDS cases to only 6% whereas it was up to 25%.
 

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We are to show love to all, and we can tell them the good word in salvation in our Lord. We can also tell them what the bible says about homosexuality, but only if we do it in a calm caring manner. !
I can assure you that a radical homosexual bigot which is what we are talking about, will spit out fire and brimstone full of hate and venom at you if you talk about what the bible says about homosexuality.
 
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Society amazes me on this issue. It's like we're all so petrified of being labelled bigots. God never intended for anything else other than for a man to be with a women. None of this gay, bisexual, transgender garbage that goes completely against our grain. God knew what He was creating when He had each and every one of us in His sight. God doesn't make mistakes. While i don't harbour any personal ill will towards people who are misguided and make the wrong choices about their sexuality and identity it is there responsibility to reflect and get the help they need to live their life according to the way God designed us. Falling short of that, I will not 'accept' their lifestyle or their choices. If that means i'm called every name under the sun, bring it on. I don't stand by or change my beliefs for societal norms, but for God alone.
 
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Society amazes me on this issue. It's like we're all so petrified of being labelled bigots. God never intended for anything else other than for a man to be with a women. None of this gay, bisexual, transgender garbage that goes completely against our grain. God knew what He was creating when He had each and every one of us in His sight. God doesn't make mistakes. While i don't harbour any personal ill will towards people who are misguided and make the wrong choices about their sexuality and identity it is there responsibility to reflect and get the help they need to live their life according to the way God designed us. Falling short of that, I will not 'accept' their lifestyle or their choices. If that means i'm called every name under the sun, bring it on. I don't stand by or change my beliefs for societal norms, but for God alone.
Good on you Laura. The homosexual agenda is to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Their main target is the church because it happens to believe that God's word supersedes anyone else's and the homosexuals do not like that because they want everyone to fall into line with what they say.

The scripture says that you cannot deceive the elect and that is very important to know because there are churches that are falling like flies to try and accommodate the homosexuals demands and as a result they are encouraging the homosexuals to fight the bad fight to get the elect to cave in.

I have had homosexuals ask "this church or that church accepts homosexuality so why don't you?" They ask that because they have developed the mindset that they are right and everyone else is wrong so everyone should do what they say.

So stick to your guns Laura and join the other elect in fighting the good fight.
 
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A thirty something year old man just died at our church from contracting AIDS through a blood transfusion a number of years ago. That's right. It went right through both blood test checks and he got it anyways. He didn't even know he had it and checked into the emergency room with terrible pneumonia and died a horrible painful death two weeks later. He leaves behind a pregnant wife.

You heard that right. Do you think the mother and the baby are HIV positive too?

Some time ago, a number of homosexual advocates were on here arguing for lifting the ban on homosexual blood donations. They asserted that it was perfectly safe. I explained in detail that doing so would kill people and provided the CDC statistics showing that homosexual males are the most HIV infected demographic in the U.S..

I was called all sorts of names by them, of course, even though I was completely correct.

Now a brother in Christ is dead and his family fatherless and possibly infected.

Thanks for nothing.
 
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Good on you Laura. The homosexual agenda is to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Their main target is the church because it happens to believe that God's word supersedes anyone else's and the homosexuals do not like that because they want everyone to fall into line with what they say.

The scripture says that you cannot deceive the elect and that is very important to know because there are churches that are falling like flies to try and accommodate the homosexuals demands and as a result they are encouraging the homosexuals to fight the bad fight to get the elect to cave in.

I have had homosexuals ask "this church or that church accepts homosexuality so why don't you?" They ask that because they have developed the mindset that they are right and everyone else is wrong so everyone should do what they say.

So stick to your guns Laura and join the other elect in fighting the good fight.
But the real question is how does one balance those things that God does say we are to do in love,where they are correct on what the Bible plainly says is true? Can we really say that because they live like that we can deny them food,shelter,clothing,water and certain types of employment? What did Jesus show us when He feed the 4,000 and 5,000? And isn't He also our example of how to love? Who was included in those groups? Did Jesus separate out who He was going to feed? Did Jesus feed believers,unbelievers,clean,unclean,those living in unrepentant sin,those not living in sin,friends and even ENEMIES? Jesus closes that door on NOT meeting needs. The Bible is very clear about NOT meeting another's needs,but that DOES NOT mean we are required to meet their wants which goes against what the Bible plainly teaches. No Christian should be upset about MEETING another's needs,because that is at the heart loving another human being made in the image of God. Jesus never made a distinction of who's needs we are to meet.
 
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Good on you Laura. The homosexual agenda is to silence anyone who disagrees with them. Their main target is the church because it happens to believe that God's word supersedes anyone else's and the homosexuals do not like that because they want everyone to fall into line with what they say.

The scripture says that you cannot deceive the elect and that is very important to know because there are churches that are falling like flies to try and accommodate the homosexuals demands and as a result they are encouraging the homosexuals to fight the bad fight to get the elect to cave in.

I have had homosexuals ask "this church or that church accepts homosexuality so why don't you?" They ask that because they have developed the mindset that they are right and everyone else is wrong so everyone should do what they say.

So stick to your guns Laura and join the other elect in fighting the good fight.
Yeah Mustapha. I think im starting to agree with you here. Some homosexuals are now playing the system and are forcing people into situations of 'guilt'.

Like that poor preacher who was asked by two gays what his beliefs were, and they knew full well what his beliefs were... Then reported him to the police for expressing the views they asked him to express.

I've got no issues with gays, but I understand why you would have a problem with the gay agenda.
 
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What most people will never get is this a backlash. Far too often the Church has ignored a very real but dirty little secret. There are far too many preachers and churches that make Westboro Baptist Church look like choir boys. Too many preachers will advocate "beating the gay out of your boys" "rape your daughter to remove the lesbian out of her". Preachers that when a gay "couple" comes into church will egg the congregation to beat them in the parking lot. And Christians that have jumped gays outside of a bar and beat them to death. You have Christians that can forgive a woman that has aborted her baby long before they will ever forgive a homosexual (Seen it first hand) And it's all done in the name of Christ. Yet where are the Christians who will speak up on those things? These things are far too common in the church,yet you continue to have Christians turn a blind eye to those things. If this stuff is NOT what a Christian is suppose where are those who will speak out against this? Why the silence about Christians doing these things? Are we saying this stuff is OK?

And if we think that this doesn't happen go back and read history,a whole of stuff of dirty nasty stuff has been done in the name of Christ.
 
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We live in a culture that does not consider sexual immorality to be a sin. This change in cultural morals has influenced all of western civilization. Christendom has lost its influence on western civilization because of its own sins, which remain unrepented.

As The Lord Jesus told us: " remove the board from your own eye, then you will be able to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Again The Lord said: " If salt has lost it saltiness, it is of no use."

christians look around trying to understand what has caused the decline of western civilization and we need only look in the mirror.

Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy, Lord have mercy.
 
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As parents in Germany protested a new pro-homosexual “sexual diversity” curriculum in their schools, because they didn't want their children programmed by the state to be homosexually indoctrinated with the homosexual agenda: homosexual activists have attacked them by hurling feces and destroying their property.

Christian Demonstrations Violently Attacked by Left Wing Radicals in Baden-Württemberg and Cologne

“Protesters were physically attacked and it was felt that the police failed to protect the parents’ basic right of assembly,” said a statement from the Observatory describing incidents at recent rallies in Baden-Württemberg and Cologne.

According to eyewitnesses, says the Observatory, “Christian parents were shouted at with obscenities.”

“They were spit at, eggs were thrown, and little bags with feces or color. Cables of loud speakers were torn out,” the organization says. “Pages were ripped out of the bible and used to wipe backsides, then formed into a ball and thrown at the parents.”

A petition, launched by parents and teachers opposed to indoctrinating children into a life of homosexuality collected almost 200,000 signatures.
 
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[h=3]1 Kings 14:23-25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

23 For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.
24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.
25 And it came to pass in the fifth year of king Rehoboam, that Shishak king of Egypt came up against Jerusalem:


[h=3]1 Kings 15:11-13[/h]King James Version (KJV)

11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.


[h=3]1 Kings 22:45-47[/h]King James Version (KJV)

45 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?
46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
47 There was then no king in Edom: a deputy was king.


[h=3]2 Kings 23:6-8[/h]King James Version (KJV)

6 And he brought out the grove from the house of the Lord, without Jerusalem, unto the brook Kidron, and burned it at the brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.
7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
8 And he brought all the priests out of the cities of Judah, and defiled the high places where the priests had burned incense, from Geba to Beersheba, and brake down the high places of the gates that were in the entering in of the gate of Joshua the governor of the city, which were on a man's left hand at the gate of the city.


What is a Sodomite?


[h=3]Genesis 19[/h]King James Version (KJV)

19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.






 

mustaphadrink

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As parents in Germany protested a new pro-homosexual “sexual diversity” curriculum in their schools, because they didn't want their children programmed by the state to be homosexually indoctrinated with the homosexual agenda: homosexual activists have attacked them by hurling feces and destroying their property.

Christian Demonstrations Violently Attacked by Left Wing Radicals in Baden-Württemberg and Cologne

“Protesters were physically attacked and it was felt that the police failed to protect the parents’ basic right of assembly,” said a statement from the Observatory describing incidents at recent rallies in Baden-Württemberg and Cologne.

According to eyewitnesses, says the Observatory, “Christian parents were shouted at with obscenities.”

“They were spit at, eggs were thrown, and little bags with feces or color. Cables of loud speakers were torn out,” the organization says. “Pages were ripped out of the bible and used to wipe backsides, then formed into a ball and thrown at the parents.”

A petition, launched by parents and teachers opposed to indoctrinating children into a life of homosexuality collected almost 200,000 signatures.
Ah, but the sad thing is that the homosexuals are victims and treated unequally so they have a right to be bigoted intolerant, hateful and vicious to right all the wrongs they suffer. We have no right to demand tolerance and love from them because all that will do is show them up to be incapable of such things.
 

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Also reply to crossnote

since when did Mormons make the church list, most of you on these threads use to curse them to hell along with catholics.

and Boy Scouts are not a church

why do I bother.

Continue in your self righteous piety.
If someone is drowning, you throw them a life preserver!

If someone is sinning, you must tell them!

The person that throws the preserver is not any better/greater than the one drowning. They just happen to be on solid ground at the time. I do not think we should bash anyone that is being sexually immoral (this is not limited to homosexuality) but you do not help them by telling them they are not drowning and it is okay to go deeper. We all sin and all need to receive loving advise from others. I do realize that people are not always loving (and probably are not more often than they are) but we must strive to be pleasing to God in all things.
 

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Matthew 9:11
When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Matthew 9:13
But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 8:7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1 Corinthians 13:1-7 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. [SUP]2 [/SUP]If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
[SUP]4[/SUP]Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things

We must accept all of this. While we are/should be patient and kind and not arrogant, we must not rejoice in unrighteousness. If we rejoice in the truth we cannot encourage anyone to continue in any kind of immoral sexuality.
 
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First off, lets set a few known ground rules. Christ died for all, everyone. We are to love all, as stated love the sinner but hate the sin. We, the blood bought are to blame for this entire homo movement. This a sin, as a matter of fact is stated in God's Word, is very, very articulate about this sin: Romans chapter 1

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, [SUP]25 [/SUP]who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.[SUP]26 [/SUP]For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; [SUP]29 [/SUP]being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, [SUP]30 [/SUP]backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [SUP]31 [/SUP]undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; [SUP]32 [/SUP]who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Pretty strong statement is made there, but we didn't state this but we have to remember that God gave them up to a "debased mind". These people have had their brains seared, I shudder to think that there might not be a salvation for them or at least very difficult for them to reach it.

Another thing, yes, we, the blood bought have not stood up in love (man is this almost impossible, it would not be us but the Spirit in us) and called this sin a sin and called for repentance, For we are dealing directly with satan or demons at least, are we stupid to the workings of the enemy? I am tired of hearing about the exploits of their sexual habits, and what is normal and how enjoyable all is. Come on people get out of my face and back into your closets. If you what to live that way, be blessed but don't tell me about it.
 

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But the real question is how does one balance those things that God does say we are to do in love,where they are correct on what the Bible plainly says is true? Can we really say that because they live like that we can deny them food,shelter,clothing,water and certain types of employment? What did Jesus show us when He feed the 4,000 and 5,000? And isn't He also our example of how to love? Who was included in those groups? Did Jesus separate out who He was going to feed? Did Jesus feed believers,unbelievers,clean,unclean,those living in unrepentant sin,those not living in sin,friends and even ENEMIES? Jesus closes that door on NOT meeting needs. The Bible is very clear about NOT meeting another's needs,but that DOES NOT mean we are required to meet their wants which goes against what the Bible plainly teaches. No Christian should be upset about MEETING another's needs,because that is at the heart loving another human being made in the image of God. Jesus never made a distinction of who's needs we are to meet.
Sad to say this is NOT the issue. With the way society has changed, very few homosexuals are bereft of anything that other people take for granted. It is typical for homosexuals to say you hate me becuase you do not agree with me which is utter rubbish. I don't hate my son because I tell him what he is doing is wrong. I love him because I don't want him to do wrong and suffer the consequences, which are ALWAYS negative.

The scripture is clear that truth and love are part and parcel of each other. if you hide the truth you are not loving because what you are actually doing is allowing someone to suffer for their sins because you won't tell them the truth.

The scriptures does not say "I give you the right to be the sons of God." It says "as many as receive him, to them he gives the right to be a son of God." No reception, no sonship.

The other aspect that needs to be pointed out is that there are many, many Christians who show their love for the homosexual by accepting them and helping them to find freedom from the sin of homosexuality. That being the case, the rabid homosexual hones in on some Christians who do not love them and help them find a way out of homosexuality. These homosexuals are by and large not interested in the truth. All they want to do is milk the minority for all its worth in an attempt to tar every christian with the same brush. Their favourite punching bag is Westboro Baptist Church, which invites the approbation they receive and are nothing like 99% of christianity. Despite this fact, they constantly imply we are all like Westboro.

And to show the anger they exhibit, if you disagree with them then you are deemed homophobic, which is as true as the King of Siam being the Queen of England.

The bottom line is that the homosexual serve satan who is the father of lies and their whole argument is based on a lie that you are born homosexual so they constantly have to invent lies to cover up the original lie which is not surprising if satan is the father of lies so he is incapable of telling the truth.
 
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Sad to say this is NOT the issue. With the way society has changed, very few homosexuals are bereft of anything that other people take for granted. It is typical for homosexuals to say you hate me becuase you do not agree with me which is utter rubbish. I don't hate my son because I tell him what he is doing is wrong. I love him because I don't want him to do wrong and suffer the consequences, which are ALWAYS negative.

The scripture is clear that truth and love are part and parcel of each other. if you hide the truth you are not loving because what you are actually doing is allowing someone to suffer for their sins because you won't tell them the truth.

The scriptures does not say "I give you the right to be the sons of God." It says "as many as receive him, to them he gives the right to be a son of God." No reception, no sonship.

The other aspect that needs to be pointed out is that there are many, many Christians who show their love for the homosexual by accepting them and helping them to find freedom from the sin of homosexuality. That being the case, the rabid homosexual hones in on some Christians who do not love them and help them find a way out of homosexuality. These homosexuals are by and large not interested in the truth. All they want to do is milk the minority for all its worth in an attempt to tar every christian with the same brush. Their favourite punching bag is Westboro Baptist Church, which invites the approbation they receive and are nothing like 99% of christianity. Despite this fact, they constantly imply we are all like Westboro.

And to show the anger they exhibit, if you disagree with them then you are deemed homophobic, which is as true as the King of Siam being the Queen of England.

The bottom line is that the homosexual serve satan who is the father of lies and their whole argument is based on a lie that you are born homosexual so they constantly have to invent lies to cover up the original lie which is not surprising if satan is the father of lies so he is incapable of telling the truth.
How many homosexuals do you know? Do you actually talk to many? Have you ever been on the other side of this? See unlike many I do have to deal with SOME of the same issues that many gays and lesbians do. I am intersexed and trans. Please don't try to buffalo me. I am all too aware of the reality of how Christians do treat us.

There are many more churches that make Westboro Baptist look like choir boys. Many of us have been on the receiving end of very real VIOLENCE by good upstanding "Christian Church Members". And those stories are far too common,and yet one rarely hears from other Christians speaking out against it. Most reject the message because too often it is about the sin they are doing and not about meeting the Savior who can SET THEM FREE from it. How many Christians do you know of that has STOPPED every single sin in their life? How about a sin that you have struggled with time and time and time again? Why is it so different for them?

To say they are not willing to listen to the Gospel message is very wrong. What they are not willing to listen to is the hypocritical modern day Pharisees. Especially when they see churches that do say one word about the members within that very same church turn a blind eye to adultery,lying on their taxes,woman that have had abortions,gossip and many other things within that same church and some of these things are ON GOING SINS. I have seen it with my own eyes. This too is far more common within those same churches.

And to add one more thing,on two different sites one Christian and one a LGBT site,I posted two threads,one about the passion week and one about the real story about the message of Christmas,in which Jesus is the promised Messiah come to earth. The LGBT site has one third the number of members,yet the number of views on the two threads were viewed 2 1/2 to 3 times as much on THE LGBT site then the Christian site. Why is that? By the way the LGBT site is NON-CHRISTIAN TO BOOT. So how is that even possible if they want NOTHING to do with the message?
 
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Ah, but the sad thing is that the homosexuals are victims and treated unequally so they have a right to be bigoted intolerant, hateful and vicious to right all the wrongs they suffer. We have no right to demand tolerance and love from them because all that will do is show them up to be incapable of such things.
deal with it. are you upset and nose out of joint over some sadly deluded people who need Christ?
would you be so vicious with out-of-control angry inner-city youths who grew up with no dad (jail) and a drug-addicted mom? the kid's bad behaviour is never "right". but the kid is in trouble and hurt and scared and it comes out in anger and aggression.

what words can you think of that might help? how about love? how about service? how about giving of your time without bragging about it? or you can just rant.