Love Is Still the Answer

[resurrection33]

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV

 

[RickShafer]

Amen!
Love to some is works, as they turn this verse on it's head.
Quite simple, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
But then of course, who can restore sight to the blind and hearing to the deaf?
- Only Jesus.
- - Who was God's expression of total love to mankind.
- - -And Jesus followed every command the Father gave Him, even to the cross.
- - - -Perfect life, obedient death: Perfect Savior!

 

[curlyafropuff]

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV

Yea and Amen, love is the image of God. Love is God and God looks at us to see if his image is shinning forth... to see if his image is manifesting as that which it was sent to do-to love.

 

[RedTent]

Amen!
Love to some is works, as they turn this verse on it's head.
Quite simple, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
But then of course, who can restore sight to the blind and hearing to the deaf?
- Only Jesus.
- - Who was God's expression of total love to mankind.
- - -And Jesus followed every command the Father gave Him, even to the cross.
- - - -Perfect life, obedient death: Perfect Savior!

And then again some say "love" without any works, so they have no love for when love tries to live without any expression of love, love itself dies.

 

[silas42]

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV

Absolutely
If you truly love someone you won't want to
steal from them
Bear false witness against them
Covet what is theirs
Murder them etc
Love indeed fulfils the law

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

And then again some say "love" without any works, so they have no love for when love tries to live without any expression of love, love itself dies.

You are such a confused person....

 

[RickShafer]

And then again some say "love" without any works, so they have no love for when love tries to live without any expression of love, love itself dies.

Red......find a red hiefer with less than twelve white hairs and burn it already.
- If you think love is fulfilled in the upkeeping of the ceremonial and sacrificial law.......I don't know what to say to you anymore.

Good grief.

 

[RedTent]

Red......find a red hiefer with less than twelve white hairs and burn it already.
- If you think love is fulfilled in the upkeeping of the ceremonial and sacrificial law.......I don't know what to say to you anymore.

Good grief.

Rick, and I you!! That you preach doing nothing for the God who created and loves you, who created a world so beautiful it has such as the Grande Canyon in it, that you should spout such accusations at anyone who suggests anyone obey in any way is beyond me!!!

 

[silas42]

What I always find rather depressing is when people continually state we must obey commandments to get to Heaven, the inference appearing to be we must focus on commands of the bible and strive to obey them, and if we succeed we will get to Heaven.

I loved my mother greatly. When she was diagnosed as terminally ill my wife and I went and looked after in her home for three months. I felt at that time I had never lived closer to biblical teaching as I did then. I put aside my own wants so my mother could have the best life possible in the time she had left to live, my focus was on her needs, not my own.

I didn't have to think of any commandment during this time and strive to obey them where she was concerned, I never once thought of any of the Ten Commandments and strove to obey them, I was naturally following them because I loved my mother.
I remember I felt much guilt as well as the time for I was over fifty and reflected on how far short I had so often fallen in my own life compared to how I was living at this time(I do still fall terribly short, and often)

The point being, the way to follow the commands of scripture is indeed to love God and love your neighbour. If we are having to focus strenuously on striving to obey individual commands are we loving as we should?
And if we are not loving, we can't truly obey them can we however much we try
So I'll never see obedience as focusing on literal commands and striving to obey them, but the key must be love God and love your neighbour
I am only too painfully aware of how far I often fall short, especially in the cut and thrust of debate at times on the internet
And of course we have to look to Christ to change us from within, we are helpless in ourselves

So I do find it depressing, and not the correct way if we tell people to focus on the law/commandments and strive to obey them to get to Heaven(you can't get to Heaven if you don't), rather look to Christ and pray we will be more loving, then obedience will come naturally and we won't be Pharisees, even unwittingly at times

 

[RedTent]

What I always find rather depressing is when people continually state we must obey commandments to get to Heaven, the inference appearing to be we must focus on commands of the bible and strive to obey them, and if we succeed we will get to Heaven.

I loved my mother greatly. When she was diagnosed as terminally ill my wife and I went and looked after in her home for three months. I felt at that time I had never lived closer to biblical teaching as I did then. I put aside my own wants so my mother could have the best life possible in the time she had left to live, my focus was on her needs, not my own.

I didn't have to think of any commandment during this time and strive to obey them where she was concerned, I never once thought of any of the Ten Commandments and strove to obey them, I was naturally following them because I loved my mother.
I remember I felt much guilt as well as the time for I was over fifty and reflected on how far short I had so often fallen in my own life compared to how I was living at this time(I do still fall terribly short, and often)

The point being, the way to follow the commands of scripture is indeed to love God and love your neighbour. If we are having to focus strenuously on striving to obey individual commands are we loving as we should?
And if we are not loving, we can't truly obey them can we however much we try
So I'll never see obedience as focusing on literal commands and striving to obey them, but the key must be love God and love your neighbour
I am only too painfully aware of how far I often fall short, especially in the cut and thrust of debate at times on the internet
And of course we have to look to Christ to change us from within, we are helpless in ourselves

So I do find it depressing, and not the correct way if we tell people to focus on the law/commandments and strive to obey them to get to Heaven(you can't get to Heaven if you don't), rather look to Christ and pray we will be more loving, then obedience will come naturally and we won't be Pharisees, even unwittingly at times

Those of us who talk about obeying who follow Jesus as we speak of it never never say obeying is for salvation. That is not following Jesus. We never say that it is without love, for every commandment is rooted in love, is love. When commandments are looked at as depressing, it isn't God who is behind obedience as depressing. A world run with people who don't want to obey is depressing, a world of order and love is happy. If it doesn't have joy in it, it isn't of God. If it doesn't have love in it, it isn't of God. You can see it in posters. Check those who use accusations, threats, or judging others to tell of God. Do as I command you to do, they say, never here is what our Lord says.

We had a family week long retreat, with every one obedient to God as much as they knew how, all 20 people. There was wine with dinner for some, but otherwise no one had alcohol. No fights. Lots of fun. In our neighborhood was a get together of people without obedience. What a fight they had. Love in action is never depressing. It is love with no action following that is depressing.

Obedience under God and under love always has the love of God at the core, and the forgiveness offered us is never apart from that. Awareness of the HS leading is also a part. God offers a large, entire package. Take out any piece, and it affects all others. There is grace, love, forgiveness, faith, and even our obedience in there. Nothing can be taken out.

 

[fredjames]

Peace be with you, isn't JESUS's teaching from the sermon on the mount onwards is all about the meanings to the commandments of GOD's love.
If one is a hearer and a doer, obedient and submissive to his teachings, fulfill GOD's commandment of love.
Even the non-believers practice love towards one another but they are unable to lay down their lives for one another.
On the other hand true Christians lay down their lives and they are 'joy and excited' when they are 'insulted, mistreated and even when evil lies is spoken about them'.
As it is spoken by CHRIST and written; "Blessed are they who are persecuted for doing right."
Are you that Christian?
i am ashame myself to even mention the few who are chosen, for examples to us who are slumbering and partying, know and feel the sufferings of the ones who are being persecuted in North Korea in the hard labor camp for being a Christian. Same as during Prophet Daniel's time, to deny his GOD and bow down to Babylonian's idols or be thrown into the fire. The Christians in North Korea are given a chance to only deny Christ as their God and accept the Emperor as god and they are set free to be with the general population. But they refuse and for this they are tortured day and night, while we are pampered day and night.
What if the same test comes to shake our faith of GOD's love as we so speak and claim? Can we stand the test of time?
Please don't answer bluntly as Peter did to JESUS, but speak and do as Apostle Peter did, who became matured as he remain rooted to CHRIST's teachings and corrections.
The HOLY SPIRIT has shown me the dramatic believers and the real spirit and truth believers who truly stand for CHRIST and HIS Teachings are an evidence in them, enduring the test of time of their faith.
As it is written; "Many are called but only a few are chosen."

 

[Hizikyah]

Name 1 of the 10 Commandments we can disobey and still have love?

 

[resurrection33]

What I always find rather depressing is when people continually state we must obey commandments to get to Heaven, the inference appearing to be we must focus on commands of the bible and strive to obey them, and if we succeed we will get to Heaven.

I loved my mother greatly. When she was diagnosed as terminally ill my wife and I went and looked after in her home for three months. I felt at that time I had never lived closer to biblical teaching as I did then. I put aside my own wants so my mother could have the best life possible in the time she had left to live, my focus was on her needs, not my own.

I didn't have to think of any commandment during this time and strive to obey them where she was concerned, I never once thought of any of the Ten Commandments and strove to obey them, I was naturally following them because I loved my mother.
I remember I felt much guilt as well as the time for I was over fifty and reflected on how far short I had so often fallen in my own life compared to how I was living at this time(I do still fall terribly short, and often)

The point being, the way to follow the commands of scripture is indeed to love God and love your neighbour. If we are having to focus strenuously on striving to obey individual commands are we loving as we should?
And if we are not loving, we can't truly obey them can we however much we try
So I'll never see obedience as focusing on literal commands and striving to obey them, but the key must be love God and love your neighbour
I am only too painfully aware of how far I often fall short, especially in the cut and thrust of debate at times on the internet
And of course we have to look to Christ to change us from within, we are helpless in ourselves

So I do find it depressing, and not the correct way if we tell people to focus on the law/commandments and strive to obey them to get to Heaven(you can't get to Heaven if you don't), rather look to Christ and pray we will be more loving, then obedience will come naturally and we won't be Pharisees, even unwittingly at times

When we sin, trouble enters our lives. The purpose of the commandments is to make sure that doesn't happen. The commandments are for our own benefit. They are like a roadmap to happiness and safety.