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I think they fall under the same category as all morally neutral forms of enjoyment do. I agree with the rest of your paragraph though, but I suppose I just draw the line somewhere else.
Now maybe in private sectors you could argue they are the same as to being morally neutral forms of enjoyment. But even then...people do it privately because its looked upon as more so morally wrong publicly. When people play cards they don't hide in the basement from the cops or their parents. Playing cards doesn't have an age requirement(just a intelligence one). If smoking pot was made legal it would have an age minimum...and the majority would still be hiding it from their parents. That's not the actions of something that is in the same moral category as playing cards.
Many people enjoy a certain degree of mental impairment (if that's what you want to call it) when they drink, and the majority of Christianity has no problem with this. I just don't see the need to isolate and condemn cannabis use.
Honestly i would advice anyone to stay away from either if they can. They can only be better off without them. As for me I don't find either appealing from the aftermath i have seen caused by both...and i doubt any of my testimonies or me telling anyone about God would have as much impact if they knew i smoked weed?.(which i would have no real good reason as to why)....Instead of me explaining why i'm doing something that could lead to bad things and is illegal. Also the criminal ties it has and other bad things its related to across the world makes it something for me that would be way better off not doing. I'm just gonna word it this way. If im given an option to smoke or not smoke..and not smoking allows me to be a better light to this world...then I choose the latter. That's just my take on it though.
I don't think anyone is deliberately cutting it close. Rather, because of our imperfect natures, everything we do has the potential to become a vice: drinking, smoking, playing cards, drinking tea etc. Even though these activities are in and of themselves morally neutral, it is possible to abuse them. I simply place cannabis use in the same category.
Some things have a greater potential than others(And people know this). So we do have a deliberate choice to do them or not. Unless if you choose to ignore...every action is a choice. Living for God is deciding to go against my imperfect nature....My imperfect nature is not an excuse to play with fire. For me doing this would
1# Cause family problems
2# Illegal
3# Could lead to addiction...(i'm not perfect...how would i know if i never tried it? i can say it wont lead to it for certain)
4# Give the example to my 25 cousins that drugs are okay and maybe one of them becomes addicted
5# No real good reason as to why to do it. Not a very good hobby or relatively productive
6# like i stated in a past post it would be somewhat demeaning, for me, of God's power in my life
7# For me...a stupid way to find relaxation i never liked being impaired in any way.
This making it for me way better off spiritually, emotionally and physically without it...and he wants me to be better off ...
We strive to become more like jesus and let go of that nature that hinders us. And i already stated above why its really not in the same morally neutral category as playing cards...We wouldn't even have this thread if it was.... whether it be cause if its illegal or other reasons as age.
I see what you mean, but loads of things affect our mental state that we would not condemn. For instance, is it okay to get a sugar or caffeine high? What about the buzz one gets from physical exercise? I just think that to single out cannabis is arbitrary.
#1 The buzz from exercising is not stimulated by an outside source and it doesn't give us trouble formulating thoughts...People exercise for the physical/health results....Not for the buzz. Exercising is something that works your butt off. Weed high does not require you to be in shape lol.. This is just not the same and i don't feel like going though the many reasons why... because i can tell you're smart and you probably know this already.
#2 Sugar is in soooo many foods.... You can just throw this one out the window because studies have shown that ''the sugar high'' is mostly a myth. Some people are just more naturally hyper than others or make themselves believe that sugar will make them hyper... so they psychologically acquire that state. Some of the food that has sugar coincidently also has caffeine. There is no real evidence that sugar gives a high to the normal healthy human being or child. You can search this and find extensive data on it.
#3 Caffeine does not impair our mentality...or affect the limbic system like weed. Its affects our central nervous system and it heightens our awareness...can't really be considered a high similar to weed which lowers your awareness to some extent. IDK if you can even call this a high.
Singling out cannibis use and realizing how different it is from these is not arbitrary..in fact it's arbitrary to not see the differences between them. Especially when you don't point out why they are any where near similar other than they are just bodily reactions. But you just state they are the same.
I think you know that the last paragraph you wrote was not concise. If you are gonna compare exercising and a caffeine high to that of weed. At least tell me how they are anything alike and how they act on our emotional/mental state in the same way. These examples have no where near the same affect on our mentality/body ...to where we can't keep our normal mental composure.
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