mark of the beast

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popeye

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The 666 mark requires worship. It also is a choice. Take it or die. It also is tied to all destruction of currency.

As long as a chip is used without those dimensions or threat of death,I can not personally see it's biblical specifics.

I only see a foreshadowing of what is actually coming.
 
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And mow many in the original Hebbrew or the Greek ?


I am not familiar with that kind of prescription for rightly dividing the word of God. I think when we compare the spiritual, not seen, to the spiritual not seen(faith to faith) he spells out who the antichrists plural are in regard the number of natural man (666) "called a beast of the field". All creatures created after the rudiments of this world are used to represent the corrupted flesh of this corrupted earth and heaven. Satan as the father of lies, he was not created of the dust of the field as if we did wrestle against flesh and blood and not lying spirits and principalities

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Satan's kind, as a lying spirit is not called a beast of the earth

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number ( not the father of lies, number) is Six hundred threescore and six.

If any number I would offer the number 13 would relate to that spirit being (no DNA) ,the serpent
I don't worry about the original Hebrew or Greek. It is helpful to me to remember that Satan is very subtle - so always be on guard.
 
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1. Its not 666 (three sixes), its 600 60 and 6 (six hundred sixty and six).

2. Its not about the English alphabet, but about the Greek alphabet

3. its not about the Arabic numbers, its about the Greek numbers (which are also letters).

I am quite prepared to accept the explanation also in Latin, but really not in English/Arabic.
It is helpful to me to be aware that Satan is very subtle, and I suspect it would be helpful to you as well.
 
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willybob

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thats much more what i see as well, the marking of the mind, Gd marks us with Hos gospel in our minds, and satan as he has from eden, marks us with His Lie
Yes this is true followjesus. the willful rebellious are marked in Rev. 13, they are not forced to receive a mark but voluntarily receive it, and likewise the obedient servants are identified in Rev 14, which is also found in Ezekiel 9..

Those with the mark are the none good no not one that Paul spoke of in Romans 3, there mouths are open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: unable top tame their unruly tongues and without temperance, as none of the wicked can do any good. Paul was referencing the wicked and quoting from Psalms 14, 53, 5, 140, 10, 36 and Proverbs 1-16, 16-8, and Isaiah 59-7,8 of the which also all are contrasted against the righteous in all those chapters. This is consistent pattern found all throughout the text.. I think Satan's mark is branded upon those with reprobate minds having their conscience seared with the hot iron of lust, 14 whose mouth is full of cursings and bitterness: 15 For their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known: (Proverbs 1-16, 16-8, and Isaiah 59-7,8) 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. Psalms 36-1....
 
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Thank goodness you are finished.


But did you take it to heart, or did you rebel against the word and resist the light? Those that have the mark resist the truth having a rebellious heart remaining carnal in their understandings, and continue to be servants of sin, thus are engaged in the unpardonable sin (blasphemy of the Holy Ghost)
 
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Sorry Garee, but the scripture is clear that without the mark no one will able to buy or sell. To put that into perspective, the world has been in the process of electronic crediting and debiting of ones bank account. That technology for the chip implant is going to be used for exactly that.
We are not to put our faith in things made with human hands (will). As if he need anything from the clay he is forming Christ in (the believers). I would not sell that truth of God

It would be simply for a person to make their own, batteries not included. It not a test but a fact ..666 is the mark of natural unconverted man (beast of the field) . I think the idea of having a literal sign is hollywood stuff

It becomes buy or sell what?

The spiritual unseen truth revealed in parables according to His understanding, hid from those who do not mix faith, the unseen eternal in what they do hear or see? Christ calls it the living water using water to symbolize the Sprit of Christ the Holy Spirit of God.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

The bible inform us of spiritual truths not seen, the eternal. In the opening words we are informed he has sent and signified which means to make a sign as that seen to make something unseen known.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


The first parable in a book full of them is below. Seven Spirits represent one of God, Seven is perfect or complete representing all, just as with the word seven churches the bride of Christ .

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Many metaphors are used in that book (Revelation) they are used in as parables. The light of those candles used as a metaphor are applied to His representative glory, the light of the gospel. Without parables Christ informs us he speaks not

Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
 

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The 666 mark requires worship. It also is a choice. Take it or die. It also is tied to all destruction of currency.
It is also in the past.

As long as a chip is used without those dimensions or threat of death,I can not personally see it's biblical specifics.

I only see a foreshadowing of what is actually coming.
It wasn't a chip, but a mark
 

valiant

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But did you take it to heart, or did you rebel against the word and resist the light? Those that have the mark resist the truth having a rebellious heart remaining carnal in their understandings, and continue to be servants of sin, thus are engaged in the unpardonable sin (blasphemy of the Holy Ghost)
LOL I don't read overlong posts.:) But I do know that the original mark of the beast is long past. And your threats don't worry me. I trust in the Savior:).
 
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You guys always attempt to dilute the truth by trying to spiritualize something that is meant to be taken literally. We have all of the criteria for the scripture as being literal and you guys don't get it.
Well if you do not look for the spiritual meaning according to his prescription in the parables you will miss the hidden gospel message. It would be you all have all of the criteria for the scripture as being literal. I have not seen your prescription .

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Soon, you are going to see people using this implant, which I'm sure will evolve into something smaller and more reliable. And it will begin to be used along side of cash, checks, cards and cell phone bank apps. As time goes on and we move closer to the time of that last seven years, the technology for this mark will be ready to go and people will have already been using it.
He will come like a thief in the night.

We are going to see cash and checks continue to be phased out, with the world using electronic crediting and debiting more and more. Eventually the device in the hand and forehead will replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps. leaving only that mark to be able to credit and debit ones bank account.
The gospel is not about bank accounts and famines of food. Natural man 666 would need the gospel
a famine for hearing the word of God. When he comes wll he find faith?

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

By making the rest of the methods of buying and selling obsolete and the mark the only way to credit and debit ones bank account, it will force the individual to make a choice of receiving the mark or rejecting it. This mark will be that proverbial drawing of the line in the sand. From that point on, there will be no gray area. For anyone who receives the mark will seal their fate, being completely separated from God and will suffer the wrath of God and their place will be the lake of fire. Those who don't receive it will be those great tribulation saints who will keep their testimony of Jesus and the word of God and who will not worship the beast, his image nor receive his mark
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This mark will be that proverbial drawing of the line in doing so several times .
God drew a line of two thirds(666) representing the beast of the field natural unconverted man ..He performed that with David and Elijah and other examples.

And after this it came to pass that David smote the Philistines, and subdued them: and David took Methegammah out of the hand of the Philistines. And he smote Moab, and measured them with a line, casting them down to the ground; even with two lines measured he to put to death, and with one full line to keep alive. And so the Moabites became David's servants, and brought gifts.

2Sa 8:1

And he sent again a captain of the third fifty with his fifty. And the third captain of fifty went up, and came and fell on his knees before Elijah, and besought him, and said unto him, O man of God, I pray thee, let my life, and the life of these fifty thy servants, be precious in thy sight. Behold, there came fire down from heaven, and burnt up the two captains of the former fifties with their fifties: therefore let my life now be precious in thy sight.2Ki 1:13
 
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can you tell me some more????? as i said in my first post i think it has something to do with disobedience as well because it says in rev14 those who didnt take the mark were those who kept the commandments of God and witness of Jesus.......... is there biblical evidence that its this stigma of sin because charagma means a literal thing like branding a cow........ but it could be figurative of course its interesting to ponder these things what else could i do with my time????
Hi All,

All through God's Word in the Old and New Testament the judgements of God have only ever been given because of disobedience (not believing God and not doing what he asks us) to God's Laws (the 10 commandments) which His Word defines as sin.

Sin is the transgression of God's Law (1John 3:4) and the wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23). This is what brings God's judgements from Genesis to Revelations. Nothing more and nothing less.

Make no mistake, if any of us are breaking any of God's Laws (10 commandments) and knowingly sinning against God then you are in danger of the same judgements of God that have been served to all that disobey him.

" Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." (Rev 14:7)

"Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon." (Isa 55:6-7)

"And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." (Jer 29:13)

If we choose to follow man made traditions over the commandments of God we are not following God. (Matt 15:3)

God bless you
 
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There are no secrets held from God, from our owselves yes. God no.

Is it a man made tradition that we could "keep" without falling from Grace all of the commandments from the least to the greatest without stumbling in the least and therefore be found guilty of the whole.?

What is the wage for the least sin? Lets say like taking a apple from the tree without permission? How long is eternal never to raise to new spirit life, forever more?


James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

When we do sin intentionally or not intentionally (the secret sins hidden from our own self according to our sinful hearts as in; who could know their own heart, by denying the faith of Christ that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure .

We fear Him properly knowing with him there is plenty of forgiveness, even for our secret sins as in all sin( past present future)

Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O LORD.Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications. If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, "who shall stand"? But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.I wait for the LORD, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope.My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption. And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities. Psa 130:1- 8

The question is and I am not promting we do sin intentionally... who forgives our sin when we do?.

Does the bible say he does not forgive intentional sin? Or does it say he cannot deny himself if he is our salvation even when we do deny him by sinning against Him in unbeleif(no faith) ?


What kind fear are you exerercising'working, will he forgive your intentional sin, or the secret ones or simply all?
 
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The mark of the beast of the field (natural Man influenced by the god of this world, Satan) is 6….6 …6 .God uses three to indicate the end of a matter. The number assigned to natural man is 6….. 13 would represent Satan, not seen We are to buy that truth and not sell, as a spiritual unseen matter, the faith principle (its not about groceries or paying the rent” or getting ones nails did up


Satan remains without form and is still using things as rudiments of this world creatures as beast of the field like a serpent with flesh and blood who robbed God of the good pleasure of doing the will of God not seen in respect to that seen the antichrist (Satan)

We can see the workings of the anti christ singular (Satan) as the things of men that does offend God influences what the scriptures calls antichrists (many) who were the there already as we are informed in John 2 shown in the account of Peter who denied Christ at the promoting of the antichrist Satan. .

God did not sent Peter a strong delusion but rather by grace called him turning Peter back again and again all the days of his life in the end having not received the promise of a new incorruptible body.

Perfecft example of the anitchrist(satan) working in the heart of men (Peter) called anichrists (plural)

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto "Peter", Get thee behind me, "Satan": thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not "the things that be of God, but those that be of men".Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mat 16:22
 

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interesting

 

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hi all!!!!!!!!!! to all of you who believe revelation is still yet to come what you think the mark of the beast is? rfid chip sunday worship or something else?
I believe we will be expected to denounce our beliefs and pledge an allegiance in return for some mark that will bind us to the new world order... the way in which the world works nowadays would allow for something to be implemented to allow us to buy and sell via a system... but the key part is pledging an allegiance type of requirement in order to get the mark...
 

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Going to add my input on this, I do not know what "the mark of the beast" will be officially, but looking at the description of rev 16.2, this tells me of side effects as a result. Look at the technology today, vaccinations, recombinant dna, nanotechnology, microchip implant.

The microchip implant technology, and the push towards a cashless society, can easily replace all existing forms of physical money. So in a cashless society, one is either part of the system, or cut off from the system.

We also have evidence of cancers related to chip implants in animals.
 
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Good Question,

If you read all of God's Word from Genesis to Revelations, the judgements of God have ONLY ever been given to mankind over UNREPENTANT SIN. God's Word teaches us that sin is the breaking of God's Law (10 commandments) and the wages of <unrepentant> sin is death (Romans 6:23).

We are further told as it was in the days of Noah and Sodom so shall it be when the son of man cometh (Luke 17:26-30). The Mark of the Beast comes by unrepentant sin in breaking any of God's 10 commandments (James 2:8-12). The BeastsMark whoever does not come until it is forced upon people by the beast of Revelations 13. So at this time no one has received it. If anyone wants to learn more about the Beasts Mark.... www.beastsmark.com

God bless
 

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It is also in the past.



It wasn't a chip, but a mark
Revelation was addressed to seven first Century churches. It says he who has wisdom let him calculate the number. No amount of wisdom would have led them to believe it was a 21st century Computer chip
 

tanakh

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The 666 mark requires worship. It also is a choice. Take it or die. It also is tied to all destruction of currency.

As long as a chip is used without those dimensions or threat of death,I can not personally see it's biblical specifics.

I only see a foreshadowing of what is actually coming.
The only person in the Bible that the number 666 is associated with is Solomon a very wealthy man who did a lot of buying and selling and was famous for WISDOM. The Seven churches would recognize this big hint because they read the OT