Martin Luther King Jr's Spiritual Status

[Cee]

The man helped abolish social injustice. If you think God doesn't care about that, I don't know what Bible you're reading. Considering it clearly says we show we are His disciple by our love for each other. But one thing I do know is that Christ specifically said if you're going to point out a speck in your brother's eye you better check your own. Politics is important because it involves the welfare of people. Take a peek at Philemon and see what Paul says about slavery.

C.

 

[WebersHome]

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saved or not (way above my pay grade)

The letters that Paul wrote to his friends Timothy and Titus, are sometimes
referred to as the pastoral epistles; in other words: instructions for pastors
rather than instructions for rank and file pew warmers.

King chose to ignore Paul's instructions. He won't go to hell for it; but his
insubordination will effect his performance appraisal as per 1Cor 3:10-15,
and thus result in a smaller performance award than what he would have
deserved had he devoted himself to Paul's instructions instead getting
distracted with racial issues.

Why didn't God protect King from assassination? Well; that's not too hard to
figure out is it. King wasn't assassinated because of his service to Jesus
Christ; no; he was assassinated because of his involvement in political
activism. Had King kept his nose to the grindstone instead of sticking it in
affairs that were none of his business; he might still be alive today.

King cheated on his wife too. Adultery is bad enough when committed by a
rank and file pew warmer; but much more serious when a pastor does it.

I've heard it said that nobody is a complete failure when they can serve as a
bad example. Well; that's certainly true of King. He's an excellent example
of the kind of minister that every man ordained to serve Jesus Christ should
not be.

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[Utah]

This is a subject that is so charged with emotion that it can hardly be discussed. I do not know if King was a saved man. Just because he was ordained does not assure his relationship with Christ was as many of us see it today.

From what I can see King preached a social gospel not a biblical gospel. I put him it the same group as the guy Wright. It is not wrong for the man of God to address political issues from the bible but it is wrong to discard the bible to preach political issues for personal gain. Sharpton, Jackson and others use the church as a political vehicle and demonstrate no concern for the Spiritual need of the souls to whom they speak.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Excellent post. On another note, comparing Sharpton and Jackson to King is like comparing illness and injury to medicine.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Except that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a plagiarist his entire adult life, a serial adulterer, a communist sympathizer, spoke often against white people, and strongly doubted several essential core beliefs of Christianity.

All of that aside, I have no problem with a genuine Christian climbing up on a soapbox (turned around collar or not) and expressing their political and religious beliefs.

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†. 2Tim 2:4 . . As Christ's soldier, do not let yourself become tied up in the
affairs of this life, for then you cannot satisfy the one who has enlisted you
in his army.

The koiné Greek word for "affairs" is pragmateia (prag-mat-i'-ah) which
refers to transactions.

One of Webster's definitions of "transaction" is a communicative action or
activity involving two parties or things that reciprocally affect or influence
each other. That definition can apply to any number of human affairs
including, but not limited to, business and politics.

I sincerely believe that when Martin Luther King Jr got involved in the civil
rights movement, and began using the lectern of his church as a soap box to
express his political views; he committed one of the worst sins that a
minister ordained to serve Jesus Christ can commit: the sin of
insubordination.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the man America extols as a hero and a role model
turns out to be a shameful disgrace in the eyes of God?

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[p_rehbein]

Maybe folks should be concerning themselves with their spiritual status, and not so much others? Hmmmmm.........

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Maybe p_rehbein should cease acting like a typical "progressive" in attempting to deny people who happen to be Christians their human rights and liberties.

"Christianity is not merely religious truth, it is total truth." -Francis Schaeffer.

Maybe folks should be concerning themselves with their spiritual status, and not so much others? Hmmmmm.........

 

[WebersHome]

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2Tim 2:4 was penned especially for Christian ministers ordained to serve
Jesus Christ in order stop them from going off-reservation into trivial
pursuits and thus neglecting their duties and obligations to Jesus Christ;
which are:

†. 2Tim 4:1-5 . . In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge
the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give
you this charge: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season;
correct, rebuke and encourage-- with great patience and careful instruction.

. . . For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great
number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will
turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. But you, keep
your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist,
discharge all the duties of your ministry.

In spite of appearances, I suspect that King despised church life as an
inconvenience: a ball and chain holding him back from what he really
wanted to do. His track record speaks for itself-- King's heart was never
really in church life; his heart was in politics and public speaking. Tsk.

"No one, after putting his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the
kingdom of God." (Luke 9:61-62)

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[AgeofKnowledge]

I'm pretty sure this isn't Martin Luther King's "spiritual legacy" but it's become a part of it due to the ignorance and willingness to trade away their character and souls for massive amounts of government money which must be borrowed from creditors in enormous quantities to slake their thirst for it: "Busted - Every Sharpton business known has been dissolved for failure to comply with tax rules" Busted | National Review Online

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Let me guess Al Charlatan, it's "all whitey's fault." Well it looks like Omaha Senator Ernie Chambers would agree with you. He just stated that all white people are racist and that his blood was “polluted” by white people last week on the floor of the Senate while filibustering a bill and lambasting a state education board member who has rejected calls for his resignation after his blog called the president a “half-breed.” See: State senator says all white people are racist and 'polluted' his blood

 

[newbirth]

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Political activism might be okay for rank and file pew warmers; but
according to 2Tim 2:4 it is definitely not okay for ministers ordained to serve
Jesus Christ.

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are we not ordained to serve Jesus Christ??? and there are no rank and file pew warmers in the body of Christ...in your church maybe...not in Christ...
2 Corinthians 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

 

[newbirth]

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The letters that Paul wrote to his friends Timothy and Titus, are sometimes
referred to as the pastoral epistles; in other words: instructions for pastors
rather than instructions for rank and file pew warmers.

King chose to ignore Paul's instructions. He won't go to hell for it; but his
insubordination will effect his performance appraisal as per 1Cor 3:10-15,
and thus result in a smaller performance award than what he would have
deserved had he devoted himself to Paul's instructions instead getting
distracted with racial issues.

would you put yourself in harms way to protect a brother...???
what do you mean getting involved in racial issues???I see it as injustice...it is simply racial to you...

Why didn't God protect King from assassination? Well; that's not too hard to
figure out is it. King wasn't assassinated because of his service to Jesus
Christ; no; he was assassinated because of his involvement in political
activism. Had King kept his nose to the grindstone instead of sticking it in
affairs that were none of his business; he might still be alive today.

why didn't God protect Stephen, Peter, John and others who faced gruesome deaths????
is it not our business to speak against injustice...or do you support injustice???

King cheated on his wife too. Adultery is bad enough when committed by a
rank and file pew warmer; but much more serious when a pastor does it.

so did David and he received mercy...you don't have to look far to find faults in any of us...and we don't have to look far to find mercy in God...

I've heard it said that nobody is a complete failure when they can serve as a
bad example. Well; that's certainly true of King. He's an excellent example
of the kind of minister that every man ordained to serve Jesus Christ should
not be.

and a little bit of that ....I am sure can be found in all of us....well except maybe you...who seem to be without fault

 

[newbirth]

Let me guess Al Charlatan, it's "all whitey's fault." Well it looks like Omaha Senator Ernie Chambers would agree with you. He just stated that all white people are racist and that his blood was “polluted” by white people last week on the floor of the Senate while filibustering a bill and lambasting a state education board member who has rejected calls for his resignation after his blog called the president a “half-breed.” See: State senator says all white people are racist and 'polluted' his blood

and you conclude that is the view of all those who are opposed to your view

 

[tribesman]

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†. 2Tim 2:4 . . As Christ's soldier, do not let yourself become tied up in the
affairs of this life, for then you cannot satisfy the one who has enlisted you
in his army.

The koiné Greek word for "affairs" is pragmateia (prag-mat-i'-ah) which
refers to transactions.

One of Webster's definitions of "transaction" is a communicative action or
activity involving two parties or things that reciprocally affect or influence
each other. That definition can apply to any number of human affairs
including, but not limited to, business and politics.

I sincerely believe that when Martin Luther King Jr got involved in the civil
rights movement, and began using the lectern of his church as a soap box to
express his political views; he committed one of the worst sins that a
minister ordained to serve Jesus Christ can commit: the sin of
insubordination.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the man America extols as a hero and a role model
turns out to be a shameful disgrace in the eyes of God?

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Just a question: why single out MLK? Isn't America full of "believing" men, of all creeds and colors, who have done the same thing as he did, before and after him, making politics their number one priority? Or is it the political aims of the civil rights movement who you don't happen to agree with?

 

[WebersHome]

why single out MLK?

Because King is a sacred cow; and the country's eyes were upon him during
the month of January.

You now how Jesus Christ used parables to teach spiritual stuff? Well; I like
to use deceased celebrities because they really get people's attention. For
example: when Steve Jobs passed away, it gave me an opportunity to start
an afterlife thread titled: Where's Steve Jobs Now? (chuckle) That one sure
chafed a lot of people because Jobs has quite a few admirers; maybe even
more than King.

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