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Here's a prime example of why people complain about the nasty attacking attitudes on this forum. All your posts in this thread are personal attacks that you try to hide behind doctrinal differences.
well, your post is a personal attack and you didnt even try any doctrine to go with it. so you fail.
 
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I'm not responding to perfectionists anymore.

Their heresy has been found out so many times on these forum.
Yeah perfection does goad the flesh doent it. Be ye therefore perfect, mature, complete, even as your Father in heaven is perfect, mature, complete. But then we all know who we are dont we! Perfect in Christ or imperfection.

Dont ya just love this stuff?
 
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I'm saved by Grace through faith and walk unto the good works that God hath preordained for me.

Point out the deception please?

Answer the question.

What is Grace DOC?

Titus 2:11-12
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.


GRACE teaches men

1.) to say NO to sin
2.)TO live righteously

Grace is what PURIFIES US. it is MORE then JUST forgiveness, its POWER to overcome SIN

Titus 2:15 "These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise you."

This is NOT somthing we can do in our own flesh. CANT do it in our own Power.

BUT with GOD al lthigns are possible. IN CHRIST JESUS he makes OBEYING HIM possible. HE says "use YOUR WILL TO OBEY ME" He says it REPEADEDLY, and he says the one who DOESNT is not worthy. WE lDeny SELF, whci his only possible becasue OF his grace, and HE leads, when HE LEADS there is NOT temptation we CANT overcome. It is FAITH that pleases GOD takign JESUS at his word that with HIM IN US we CAN obey HIS words.

Here look...

Ephesians 2:1-2
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air

GODS GRACE made these men NO LONGER WALK IN SIN. NO LONGER. it was former. the grace of GOD leads to Righteousness. the grace of GOD leads to holyness. Evidence of GRACE is that ALL the sinfull and evil adn wicked things they once did THEY DO NOT DO ANYMORE.

Thats GODS GRACE.

2 Peter 1:3-4
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

THATS GRACE!! GODS divine power making it possible for LIFE and Godliness. participating IN/partaking OF the divine nature.

Whats divine about a man that sits around occasionally sinning, and wacthing worldy things and being obsessed with the world? My Buddist/new age Unkle can do that.


FAITH gives us accsess INTO Gods GRACE (romans 5:2) which helps us overcome sins and the lusts of the flesh(overcoem menas you CEASE from doing it.

Philipians 2:12-13

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

Its the GRACE of GOD IN YOU, CHRIST in YOU, the HOYL SPIRIT IN YOU, that works you to WILL and ACT. HIS grace changes YOUR will, to WANT to OBEY the comands of JESUS. and HIS Grace makes it possible.

HIS grace gives us the desire, the WILL, then WE CHOOSE to DO IT.

2 Corintians 5:21-22
"For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.



Receiving grace is not the END. We must DO SOMTHIGN WITH this GIFT from GOD

WE CHOOSE to walk the Highway of holyness, the NARROW road, OR Death and destruction the BROAD path.

its not about the good works, or anything no bosting except in the CROSS, its GOD IN YOU.

YOu receive Grace, THEN you walk in Grace. GRACE is his SPIRIT of GRACE.


The WHOLE reason the Son of GOD appeared was to DESTROY the works of thedevil(works of the flesh)

GRACE frees us fro mthe BONDAGE of and power of SIN to contol our life

2 Samuel 22:33
God is my strength and power: and he makes my way perfect <---THAT IS GODS GRACE

We WILL have trials, and temptations but IF, by FAITH we TRUST HIM HIS WORD WILL NOT FAIL

Hebrews 4:16
"Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

We shoudl BE at his throne CONSTANTLY, soemtiems spendign LOTS of time before him. (that is ALSO on our knees before his throne is where we grow to KNOW him and be washed with him)


1 John 1:7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin."

We WILL have time in the furnace, we WILL have refining periods. And we should REJOICE IN IT. But THIS is all grace.

ALL of CHRISTS finished WORK IS GRACE but WE MUST WALK as HE walked.

1 John 2:7
"He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


WE MUST meet CHRIST at his WORD. BY FAITH HE made it possible We LIMIT GODS grace to say we WILL always be a sinenr. CHRIST came to FREE YOU from SIN.


ALSO Grace the SPIRIT pf GRACE will produce FRUIT that will be EVIDENT EVERYWHERE you go. in ALL you do.
And JESUS will TELL YOU what works you are to do. He SPEAKS in any ways, but it WILL coem as a message from HIM. so we MUST know his voice. and FOLLOW his voice. and NO ONE ELSES


THAT is GODS grace. you have been saved by his SPIRIT of GRACE to make you a SON. to put you IN CHRIST, who is IN GOD.


The Modern chruch does not preach true Repentence, so TRUE grace will not follow and then that means true FAITH is not there either. it is ALL false, and the world, allowing the sons of GOD to be worldy, and make excuses and justifications for there actions. WE NEED TO REPENT, TRULY repent, and LIVE IN REPENTANCE. DENY self daily, means exactly what JESUS said it is, deny self repent of OUR desire. and SEEK HIS WILL, if WE want somthign with OUR soul, WE deny it, and instead ASK JESUS what HE wants. ALWAYS get to knwo what GOD wants for us, and SPEND TME at the throne of GRACE beign washed, being strnegthened.

And ABOVE ALL OBEY JESUS, if you ARE a Chidl of GO, then you HAVE the power to do so. So we NEED to do so and teach others to do so.


So if you dont beleive what is above. then you are deceived.
 
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What is Grace DOC?

Titus 2:11-12
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.


GRACE teaches men

1.) to say NO to sin
2.)TO live righteously

Grace is what PURIFIES US. it is MORE then JUST forgiveness, its POWER to overcome SIN

Titus 2:15 "These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise you."

This is NOT somthing we can do in our own flesh. CANT do it in our own Power.

BUT with GOD al lthigns are possible. IN CHRIST JESUS he makes OBEYING HIM possible. HE says "use YOUR WILL TO OBEY ME" He says it REPEADEDLY, and he says the one who DOESNT is not worthy. WE lDeny SELF, whci his only possible becasue OF his grace, and HE leads, when HE LEADS there is NOT temptation we CANT overcome. It is FAITH that pleases GOD takign JESUS at his word that with HIM IN US we CAN obey HIS words.

Here look...

Ephesians 2:1-2
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air

GODS GRACE made these men NO LONGER WALK IN SIN. NO LONGER. it was former. the grace of GOD leads to Righteousness. the grace of GOD leads to holyness. Evidence of GRACE is that ALL the sinfull and evil adn wicked things they once did THEY DO NOT DO ANYMORE.

Thats GODS GRACE.

2 Peter 1:3-4
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

THATS GRACE!! GODS divine power making it possible for LIFE and Godliness. participating IN/partaking OF the divine nature.

Whats divine about a man that sits around occasionally sinning, and wacthing worldy things and being obsessed with the world? My Buddist/new age Unkle can do that.


FAITH gives us accsess INTO Gods GRACE (romans 5:2) which helps us overcome sins and the lusts of the flesh(overcoem menas you CEASE from doing it.

Philipians 2:12-13

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

Its the GRACE of GOD IN YOU, CHRIST in YOU, the HOYL SPIRIT IN YOU, that works you to WILL and ACT. HIS grace changes YOUR will, to WANT to OBEY the comands of JESUS. and HIS Grace makes it possible.

HIS grace gives us the desire, the WILL, then WE CHOOSE to DO IT.

2 Corintians 5:21-22
"For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.



Receiving grace is not the END. We must DO SOMTHIGN WITH this GIFT from GOD

WE CHOOSE to walk the Highway of holyness, the NARROW road, OR Death and destruction the BROAD path.

its not about the good works, or anything no bosting except in the CROSS, its GOD IN YOU.

YOu receive Grace, THEN you walk in Grace. GRACE is his SPIRIT of GRACE.


The WHOLE reason the Son of GOD appeared was to DESTROY the works of thedevil(works of the flesh)

GRACE frees us fro mthe BONDAGE of and power of SIN to contol our life

2 Samuel 22:33
God is my strength and power: and he makes my way perfect <---THAT IS GODS GRACE

We WILL have trials, and temptations but IF, by FAITH we TRUST HIM HIS WORD WILL NOT FAIL

Hebrews 4:16
"Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

We shoudl BE at his throne CONSTANTLY, soemtiems spendign LOTS of time before him. (that is ALSO on our knees before his throne is where we grow to KNOW him and be washed with him)


1 John 1:7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin."

We WILL have time in the furnace, we WILL have refining periods. And we should REJOICE IN IT. But THIS is all grace.

ALL of CHRISTS finished WORK IS GRACE but WE MUST WALK as HE walked.

1 John 2:7
"He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


WE MUST meet CHRIST at his WORD. BY FAITH HE made it possible We LIMIT GODS grace to say we WILL always be a sinenr. CHRIST came to FREE YOU from SIN.


ALSO Grace the SPIRIT pf GRACE will produce FRUIT that will be EVIDENT EVERYWHERE you go. in ALL you do.
And JESUS will TELL YOU what works you are to do. He SPEAKS in any ways, but it WILL coem as a message from HIM. so we MUST know his voice. and FOLLOW his voice. and NO ONE ELSES


THAT is GODS grace. you have been saved by his SPIRIT of GRACE to make you a SON. to put you IN CHRIST, who is IN GOD.


The Modern chruch does not preach true Repentence, so TRUE grace will not follow and then that means true FAITH is not there either. it is ALL false, and the world, allowing the sons of GOD to be worldy, and make excuses and justifications for there actions. WE NEED TO REPENT, TRULY repent, and LIVE IN REPENTANCE. DENY self daily, means exactly what JESUS said it is, deny self repent of OUR desire. and SEEK HIS WILL, if WE want somthign with OUR soul, WE deny it, and instead ASK JESUS what HE wants. ALWAYS get to knwo what GOD wants for us, and SPEND TME at the throne of GRACE beign washed, being strnegthened.

And ABOVE ALL OBEY JESUS, if you ARE a Chidl of GO, then you HAVE the power to do so. So we NEED to do so and teach others to do so.


So if you dont beleive what is above. then you are deceived.
Grace doent teach you to say no, Christ in you eraticates sin, in Christ there is no sin, it is outside Christ that one is a sinner. If you are trying not to sin then you have faild in Christ already. 1 John 2:5-9 it is impossible to be in sin if Christ be in you. Christ teaches to exchange grace for grace. What a novel Ideah.
 

cronjecj

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Strangelove is a man with of words but wise though, i would listen to him if i were you Gary Mac and Deadflesh.
 
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Strangelove is a man with of words but wise though, i would listen to him if i were you Gary Mac and Deadflesh.
Why would I prefer strangeglove teaching over the Christs teachings? What can Strangeglove give to me that Christ in me cant give me? Man didnt teach me, nor did I learn it but by the revelation of the Christ. Paul said the same thing. What makes Strangegloves doctrine better than Christs who is my teacher?

 

cronjecj

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Why would I prefer strangeglove teaching over the Christs teachings? What can Strangeglove give to me that Christ in me cant give me? Man didnt teach me, nor did I learn it but by the revelation of the Christ. Paul said the same thing. What makes Strangegloves doctrine better than Christs who is my teacher?
Because Strangelove doesn't take scripture out of context.
 
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Strangelove is a man with of words but wise though, i would listen to him if i were you Gary Mac and Deadflesh.
Listen to strangelove, I cant believe he has not been banned. He is a cancer on the body of Christ.
 
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Because Strangelove doesn't take scripture out of context.
Oh sure he does, he makes it his own interpretation. His laws for tradition dictate to God what he wants his god to be.

A Christian is Christlike, has what Jesus had, walks as He walks, has the same mind, same Spirit, same everything. I fail to see that in Strangegloves teachings and in fact teaches contrary to being like Jesus was.
 
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Strangelove is a man with of words but wise though, i would listen to him if i were you Gary Mac and Deadflesh.
??????????????

Are you reading the same thread I am?????????
 
Jul 3, 2011
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I have noticed whether it is I or someone else, anytime the subject of holy, righteous living is brought up those that support the idea are treated as unloving, uncaring, unedifying cretins. We are called everything from legalistic to unsaved, depending on our own work instead of God, even though we all make it clear that holiness is a work of God in us not of ourselves. It just blows my mind that all believers would not agree that we as Christians should live holy lives, abstaining from sin and lusts of the flesh. God makes this abundantly clear in His word. The fact that those that believe God's word and stand for His truth are the ones being ridiculed even in what is supposed to be a christian site is mind blowing. It makes you wonder even more about the state of the church in these last days, very discouraging.
 

cronjecj

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Listen to strangelove, I cant believe he has not been banned. He is a cancer on the body of Christ.
No less then what GaryMac is..
 
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No less then what GaryMac is..
I ignore Garymac for the most part. However teaching we can be christ small ''c'' is no worse than teaching we can continue in sin because all of are past, present, and future sins are already covered in the blood. This is antinomousism at its worse.

The teaching strangelove promotes will send many, many people to hell. Not too many even pay attention to Gary's teachings.
 
Aug 12, 2010
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What is Grace DOC?

Titus 2:11-12
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.


GRACE teaches men

1.) to say NO to sin
2.)TO live righteously

Grace is what PURIFIES US. it is MORE then JUST forgiveness, its POWER to overcome SIN

Titus 2:15 "These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise you."

This is NOT somthing we can do in our own flesh. CANT do it in our own Power.

BUT with GOD al lthigns are possible. IN CHRIST JESUS he makes OBEYING HIM possible. HE says "use YOUR WILL TO OBEY ME" He says it REPEADEDLY, and he says the one who DOESNT is not worthy. WE lDeny SELF, whci his only possible becasue OF his grace, and HE leads, when HE LEADS there is NOT temptation we CANT overcome. It is FAITH that pleases GOD takign JESUS at his word that with HIM IN US we CAN obey HIS words.

Here look...

Ephesians 2:1-2
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air

GODS GRACE made these men NO LONGER WALK IN SIN. NO LONGER. it was former. the grace of GOD leads to Righteousness. the grace of GOD leads to holyness. Evidence of GRACE is that ALL the sinfull and evil adn wicked things they once did THEY DO NOT DO ANYMORE.

Thats GODS GRACE.

2 Peter 1:3-4
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

THATS GRACE!! GODS divine power making it possible for LIFE and Godliness. participating IN/partaking OF the divine nature.

Whats divine about a man that sits around occasionally sinning, and wacthing worldy things and being obsessed with the world? My Buddist/new age Unkle can do that.


FAITH gives us accsess INTO Gods GRACE (romans 5:2) which helps us overcome sins and the lusts of the flesh(overcoem menas you CEASE from doing it.

Philipians 2:12-13

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

Its the GRACE of GOD IN YOU, CHRIST in YOU, the HOYL SPIRIT IN YOU, that works you to WILL and ACT. HIS grace changes YOUR will, to WANT to OBEY the comands of JESUS. and HIS Grace makes it possible.

HIS grace gives us the desire, the WILL, then WE CHOOSE to DO IT.

2 Corintians 5:21-22
"For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.



Receiving grace is not the END. We must DO SOMTHIGN WITH this GIFT from GOD

WE CHOOSE to walk the Highway of holyness, the NARROW road, OR Death and destruction the BROAD path.

its not about the good works, or anything no bosting except in the CROSS, its GOD IN YOU.

YOu receive Grace, THEN you walk in Grace. GRACE is his SPIRIT of GRACE.


The WHOLE reason the Son of GOD appeared was to DESTROY the works of thedevil(works of the flesh)

GRACE frees us fro mthe BONDAGE of and power of SIN to contol our life

2 Samuel 22:33
God is my strength and power: and he makes my way perfect <---THAT IS GODS GRACE

We WILL have trials, and temptations but IF, by FAITH we TRUST HIM HIS WORD WILL NOT FAIL

Hebrews 4:16
"Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

We shoudl BE at his throne CONSTANTLY, soemtiems spendign LOTS of time before him. (that is ALSO on our knees before his throne is where we grow to KNOW him and be washed with him)


1 John 1:7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin."

We WILL have time in the furnace, we WILL have refining periods. And we should REJOICE IN IT. But THIS is all grace.

ALL of CHRISTS finished WORK IS GRACE but WE MUST WALK as HE walked.

1 John 2:7
"He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


WE MUST meet CHRIST at his WORD. BY FAITH HE made it possible We LIMIT GODS grace to say we WILL always be a sinenr. CHRIST came to FREE YOU from SIN.


ALSO Grace the SPIRIT pf GRACE will produce FRUIT that will be EVIDENT EVERYWHERE you go. in ALL you do.
And JESUS will TELL YOU what works you are to do. He SPEAKS in any ways, but it WILL coem as a message from HIM. so we MUST know his voice. and FOLLOW his voice. and NO ONE ELSES


THAT is GODS grace. you have been saved by his SPIRIT of GRACE to make you a SON. to put you IN CHRIST, who is IN GOD.


The Modern chruch does not preach true Repentence, so TRUE grace will not follow and then that means true FAITH is not there either. it is ALL false, and the world, allowing the sons of GOD to be worldy, and make excuses and justifications for there actions. WE NEED TO REPENT, TRULY repent, and LIVE IN REPENTANCE. DENY self daily, means exactly what JESUS said it is, deny self repent of OUR desire. and SEEK HIS WILL, if WE want somthign with OUR soul, WE deny it, and instead ASK JESUS what HE wants. ALWAYS get to knwo what GOD wants for us, and SPEND TME at the throne of GRACE beign washed, being strnegthened.

And ABOVE ALL OBEY JESUS, if you ARE a Chidl of GO, then you HAVE the power to do so. So we NEED to do so and teach others to do so.


So if you dont beleive what is above. then you are deceived.
Immensely boring essay as usual Rob. Got a few sentences in then gave up.

Again, why you would need to concentrate on your own and other peoples works is beyond me/

You preach works righteousness. It's heresy.
 
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I ignore Garymac for the most part. However teaching we can be christ small ''c'' is no worse than teaching we can continue in sin because all of are past, present, and future sins are already covered in the blood. This is antinomousism at its worse.

The teaching strangelove promotes will send many, many people to hell. Not too many even pay attention to Gary's teachings.
What you dont understand is Christ means to be anointed of God. Christ in you. Christ is not a man, Christ is Gods SPirit in the man. Again, anointed of God.
 

damombomb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2011
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#38
What is Grace DOC?

Titus 2:11-12
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.


GRACE teaches men

1.) to say NO to sin
2.)TO live righteously

Grace is what PURIFIES US. it is MORE then JUST forgiveness, its POWER to overcome SIN

Titus 2:15 "These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise you."

This is NOT somthing we can do in our own flesh. CANT do it in our own Power.

BUT with GOD al lthigns are possible. IN CHRIST JESUS he makes OBEYING HIM possible. HE says "use YOUR WILL TO OBEY ME" He says it REPEADEDLY, and he says the one who DOESNT is not worthy. WE lDeny SELF, whci his only possible becasue OF his grace, and HE leads, when HE LEADS there is NOT temptation we CANT overcome. It is FAITH that pleases GOD takign JESUS at his word that with HIM IN US we CAN obey HIS words.

Here look...

Ephesians 2:1-2
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins
in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air

GODS GRACE made these men NO LONGER WALK IN SIN. NO LONGER. it was former. the grace of GOD leads to Righteousness. the grace of GOD leads to holyness. Evidence of GRACE is that ALL the sinfull and evil adn wicked things they once did THEY DO NOT DO ANYMORE.

Thats GODS GRACE.

2 Peter 1:3-4
His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

THATS GRACE!! GODS divine power making it possible for LIFE and Godliness. participating IN/partaking OF the divine nature.

Whats divine about a man that sits around occasionally sinning, and wacthing worldy things and being obsessed with the world? My Buddist/new age Unkle can do that.


FAITH gives us accsess INTO Gods GRACE (romans 5:2) which helps us overcome sins and the lusts of the flesh(overcoem menas you CEASE from doing it.

Philipians 2:12-13

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

Its the GRACE of GOD IN YOU, CHRIST in YOU, the HOYL SPIRIT IN YOU, that works you to WILL and ACT. HIS grace changes YOUR will, to WANT to OBEY the comands of JESUS. and HIS Grace makes it possible.

HIS grace gives us the desire, the WILL, then WE CHOOSE to DO IT.

2 Corintians 5:21-22
"For he has made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.



Receiving grace is not the END. We must DO SOMTHIGN WITH this GIFT from GOD

WE CHOOSE to walk the Highway of holyness, the NARROW road, OR Death and destruction the BROAD path.

its not about the good works, or anything no bosting except in the CROSS, its GOD IN YOU.

YOu receive Grace, THEN you walk in Grace. GRACE is his SPIRIT of GRACE.


The WHOLE reason the Son of GOD appeared was to DESTROY the works of thedevil(works of the flesh)

GRACE frees us fro mthe BONDAGE of and power of SIN to contol our life

2 Samuel 22:33
God is my strength and power: and he makes my way perfect <---THAT IS GODS GRACE

We WILL have trials, and temptations but IF, by FAITH we TRUST HIM HIS WORD WILL NOT FAIL

Hebrews 4:16
"Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

We shoudl BE at his throne CONSTANTLY, soemtiems spendign LOTS of time before him. (that is ALSO on our knees before his throne is where we grow to KNOW him and be washed with him)


1 John 1:7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleans us from all sin."

We WILL have time in the furnace, we WILL have refining periods. And we should REJOICE IN IT. But THIS is all grace.

ALL of CHRISTS finished WORK IS GRACE but WE MUST WALK as HE walked.

1 John 2:7
"He that said he stays in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.


WE MUST meet CHRIST at his WORD. BY FAITH HE made it possible We LIMIT GODS grace to say we WILL always be a sinenr. CHRIST came to FREE YOU from SIN.


ALSO Grace the SPIRIT pf GRACE will produce FRUIT that will be EVIDENT EVERYWHERE you go. in ALL you do.
And JESUS will TELL YOU what works you are to do. He SPEAKS in any ways, but it WILL coem as a message from HIM. so we MUST know his voice. and FOLLOW his voice. and NO ONE ELSES


THAT is GODS grace. you have been saved by his SPIRIT of GRACE to make you a SON. to put you IN CHRIST, who is IN GOD.


The Modern chruch does not preach true Repentence, so TRUE grace will not follow and then that means true FAITH is not there either. it is ALL false, and the world, allowing the sons of GOD to be worldy, and make excuses and justifications for there actions. WE NEED TO REPENT, TRULY repent, and LIVE IN REPENTANCE. DENY self daily, means exactly what JESUS said it is, deny self repent of OUR desire. and SEEK HIS WILL, if WE want somthign with OUR soul, WE deny it, and instead ASK JESUS what HE wants. ALWAYS get to knwo what GOD wants for us, and SPEND TME at the throne of GRACE beign washed, being strnegthened.

And ABOVE ALL OBEY JESUS, if you ARE a Chidl of GO, then you HAVE the power to do so. So we NEED to do so and teach others to do so.


So if you dont beleive what is above. then you are deceived.
1Peter4:18 says it he righteous scarcely be saved,where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
If he spared not the angels?
 

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Strangelove banned? He was no minister of sin, he wasn't perfect though but who is?
 
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Strangelove banned? He was no minister of sin, he wasn't perfect though but who is?
Not to turn this into a good strangelove is banned, but if you read through his post, and see how he respobnded to and what teachings he pushed, and opposed you will see that he was not only a minister of sin, but a persecutor of those who were just.