Must Christians Ask For Forgiveness Every Time They Sin?

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eternally-gratefull

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Mocking the Holy Spirit is the only unpardonable sin.

Luke 12:10
New International Version
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

New Living Translation
Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

English Standard Version
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

New American Standard Bible
"And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.

Matthew 12:31
Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.
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Mark 3:28
Truly I tell you, the sons of men will be forgiven all sins and blasphemies, as many as they utter.
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of eternal sin."

what do you think rejecting the gospel is?? saying nice things about the spirit?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You just asked for forgiveness - not in those exact terms but that is what you did.:)
Well if you think so. But I do not think I did, I knew I was forgiven before I went, if I doubted, I may never would have went out of fear (actually in my legalistic days, I did this many times, afraid to go to god for fear of rejection) .
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If I believed I'm saved now & not be able to lose this salvation the way you say, The FIRST thing Satan would do is take advantage of that & sell licentiousness to every baby christian out there, saying something like:

"Since you surely won't lose your salvation, what difference does it make?"
well he could. but the only people he could convince of that nonsense are people who never trusted God to begin with.

Those who truly repented and truly had faith, He could never convince of this.

You can only tempt a person who is falible to temptation. A true born again child of God KNOWS his sin debt, KNOWS how much he was forgiven, and repented because he wanted to come out of that life to begin with, He would never want to go back.

 
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God's grace is not a license to sin, but the keys to liberty. God tell us what happens under grace, and it is not licentiousness. It is "sin shall not have dominion over you." True grace, God's grace, results in the sanctification of the believer.
It is sad they do not comprehend the meaning of grace and what it empowers us to do. John said he wanted us to KNOW we HAVE ETERNAL LIFE (eternal security, why? So we can continue in sin? No. SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN HIS NAME.

our key to victory over sin is grace and knowing who we are in Christ, Not in laws..
 

BillG

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God's grace is not a license to sin, but the keys to liberty. God tell us what happens under grace, and it is not licentiousness. It is "sin shall not have dominion over you." True grace, God's grace, results in the sanctification of the believer.
I will never understand why fellow believers acuuse other belivers of this.

They seem to assume that we have never read Romans 5-6.

It's actually insulting and judgemental.
 

Lewiz

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1 Read the context. That's talking about Tribulation Saints.

2. And if that were true of us, how do you know you'll endure until the end?

3 BTW, may I ask - are you a Calvinist?
1. If it was only tribulation saints, God would be a respecter of persons, giving them more requirements than us. That's not the way God works.

2. We know if we're pressing our way into the Kingdom

Luke 16:16
“The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it.

Philippians 3:
12Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14I press on toward the goalfor the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. 16Only let us hold true to what we have attained.

Hebrews 6
1Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. 3And this we will do, if God permits.4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.7For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.

3. Absolutely not.
 
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BillG

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It is sad they do not comprehend the meaning of grace and what it empowers us to do. John said he wanted us to KNOW we HAVE ETERNAL LIFE (eternal security, why? So we can continue in sin? No. SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN HIS NAME.

our key to victory over sin is grace and knowing who we are in Christ, Not in laws..
Amen and amen.

Grace gives us a license not to sin.

Any genuine beliver will not want to sin.
Yet when they do grace has covered it.
 

Lewiz

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Biblical repentance is a change of mind. We stop thinking we are good enough to make it to heaven on our own and acknowledge we are hopeless sinners in need of the savior. Jesus Christ. We stop believing in ourselves and believe instead in Him for salvation. Grace alone, by faith alone, in Jesus alone.
How come you use this short, incomplete definition of repentance?

I changed this a little:
Grace alone, by living by faith in Jesus alone.
 
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To me it is "required" for salvation NO - but for a deep relationship with the Father - YES. . . and the reason we acknowledge our sin is to receive forgiveness there's no way around it . . . there would be no other reason for us to acknowledge that we have sinned - He already knows it!
If there’s no need of repentance from the believer, then they’ve achieved sinless perfection.
 

BenFTW

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There are so many reasons why sin confession for the sake of forgiveness is problematic. It is once again bringing in the ministry of condemnation that was suppose to lead you to Christ, not to more condemnation. It is a fear based construct, of sinning and then trying to obtain forgiveness (to avoid a penalty, for some death). How could we possibly place ourselves or others under this yoke of bondage? Do or die, this is the premise. The Gospel on the other hand is "done, now live."
 

Lewiz

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I did not say apologizing to God
I am saying asking a Holy God to forgive you when you know that you have sinned. Or do you just say thank you Lord for taking that one agaoin for me:). I think Hebrews 6 is needed here. so people take more seriously the relationship with CHrist instead of the Get out hell free card.

Hebews 6:1-8


Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2of instruction about washings, and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3And this we shall do, if God permits. 4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame. 7For ground that drinks the rain which often falls upon it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; 8but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned.


Those who are saved will do as 1john and rom 6,7 tell us . and God provides grace during our santifcation process . And The Holy Spirit will lead us to repent for sin's we do as a Christian.
This needs to be brought foward.:)
 
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There are so many reasons why sin confession for the sake of forgiveness is problematic. It is once again bringing in the ministry of condemnation that was suppose to lead you to Christ, not to more condemnation. It is a fear based construct, of sinning and then trying to obtain forgiveness (to avoid a penalty, for some death). How could we possibly place ourselves or others under this yoke of bondage? Do or die, this is the premise. The Gospel on the other hand is "done, now live."
When you sin, don’t you ask God to forgive you?
 

BillG

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If there’s no need of repentance from the believer, then they’ve achieved sinless perfection.

Not this side of eternity.

If it were possible then Jesus would have just shown us the way.
Then say "Ok kids shown you how to do it, going back to heaven now"

The problem is not seeking to sin less but to be sinless, and if we are not then we are not saved or doubt our salvation.
 

Lewiz

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So, you no longer sin?

Or, do you not feel the need to repent when you sin?

Which is it?

It can’t be both.

It appears you’re teetering on sinless perfection.

I ask this to get further explanation from you.

Thanks a bushel.
I noticed you didn't get an answer. I would like to know myself.
 

BenFTW

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This needs to be brought foward.:)
It needs to be buried in the truth and be refuted. Somewhat blasphemous his mockery of Jesus paying for our sins by saying, "thank you Lord for taking that one again for me :) " Indeed, we should be grateful. Sin confession for forgiveness on the other hand doesn't even begin to acknowledge the Son of God, His work and ministry. It doesn't recognize Him as mediator and High Priest. It is like seeking another sacrifice, going backwards, and as scripture says, "trampling underfoot the Son of God."
 

Desdichado

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No, because I usually sin against you, Sovereign Grace.

I figure when I do this the good Lord gives me a pass. It's a very selective sort of antinomianism.

When you sin, don’t you ask God to forgive you?