Native Americans 12 tribes

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TheRealTruth

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There were 12 tribes in the bible and I am pretty sure Native Americans were one of them. The Apocrypha talks about how some of the tribes dispersed and even went into a land never before inhabited by man.

2 Esdras 13:40"Those are the ten tribes, which were carried away prisoners out of their own land in the time of Osea the king, whom Salmanasar the king of Assyria led away captive, and he carried them over the waters, and so came they into another land."

41"But they took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, WHERE MANKIND NEVER DWELT,"

42" That they might there keep their statutes(they did not), which they never kept in their own land."

45"For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth(America).

Even in this picture you can see Israelites with bow and arrows, and the bible mentions that some of the tribes are skilled with the arrow in the bible. All the people in the picture are Israelites except the two Egyptians to the top right.

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If you read the whole chapter God talks about the restoration of Israel. WOE unto that nation of people that brought harm to his people, people cease to realize how much of a serious offense this was. People even lie to this day and say God totally did away with his people, do not believe such lies. The world shall see the 12 tribes in all their glory when God returns.
 
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Have you ever heard of Penticost?
 
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ever heard of Torah? duh
go to the wikipaedia on torah portion and read it.
you may feel like looking for another religion, after the smack you've read here...
 
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Us Native Americans are Gentile. The 12 Tribes of Israel are Hebrew.
 
TheRealTruth

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Nalu said:
Us Native Americans are Gentile. The 12 Tribes of Israel are Hebrew.
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All will see soon who the "true" Jews were and are when Jesus returns, according to the flesh. The people in Israel today shall feel the blazing anger of God, Rev 2:9.
 
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I'm Native American, I'll just say a few things about this. I personally don't believe that we are, although I think it would be way awesome if that were true...only the fact of the matter is that you have many different tribes of Native Americans, both North, and South America, including the ones in Canada. All with different languages, religions, styles, hunting and laws they abide by. None of these are unified, people make the mistake of slapping us all together into one tribe and think that is how we work. There is too much diversity for the idea to work. I believe the Tribe of Israel would be a tribe that is unified and will be called back to their original land as well when the time comes.
Now most of these tribes have already been assimilated and all culture and Language lost, because of the assimilation. I can only say that I believe Jesus is coming soon its hard to say it any other way but I believe that is true, that is why we are learning the gospel now. God will wipe our tears away and he will give grace and show himself to those who are currently hurting because of the past...thats what I believe.

God currently has his hand over the Israelites, and is preserving their way of life for thousands of years...many other types of people and names have been washed away by the sands of time (if you catch my drift), but The Israelites will always be Gods chosen people. The proof is in their preservation.

But yes...it is an awesome thought..
 
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You have a point about those in Israel....as well as hebrew artifacts have been found
in early american indian diggings. But salvation is through Jesus christ...to the jew first
then to the gentile. ethnic jews are the same as anyone...repent believe the gospel, or
receive Gods wrath to the jew first...then to the gentile.
 
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Lovesong said:
I'm Native American, I'll just say a few things about this. I personally don't believe that we are, although I think it would be way awesome if that were true...only the fact of the matter is that you have many different tribes of Native Americans, both North, and South America, including the ones in Canada. All with different languages, religions, styles, hunting and laws they abide by. None of these are unified, people make the mistake of slapping us all together into one tribe and think that is how we work. There is too much diversity for the idea to work. I believe the Tribe of Israel would be a tribe that is unified and will be called back to their original land as well when the time comes.
Now most of these tribes have already been assimilated and all culture and Language lost, because of the assimilation. I can only say that I believe Jesus is coming soon its hard to say it any other way but I believe that is true, that is why we are learning the gospel now. God will wipe our tears away and he will give grace and show himself to those who are currently hurting because of the past...thats what I believe.

God currently has his hand over the Israelites, and is preserving their way of life for thousands of years...many other types of people and names have been washed away by the sands of time (if you catch my drift), but The Israelites will always be Gods chosen people. The proof is in their preservation.

But yes...it is an awesome thought..
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Are you Native on your father side? or mother? because there is no such thing as mixed. You are what your father is and NOT your mother. If your father was native American, then you will be Native. But if you Mother was Native and your father another nationality then you would be of the father. So are you Native on the father side?
 
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Look at penticost TRT ...there is one covenant...for all mankind. And its through the gospel.
God doesnt like anyone being mistreated. All nations including representitives of the 12 tribes were there.
 
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Look at penticost TRT ...there is one covenant...for all mankind. And its through the gospel.
God doesnt like anyone being mistreated. All nations including all representitives of the 12 tribes were there.
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Yeah its because of the blood of Jesus we can all be saved and are bought with a price, I agree on that one. I just think that Israel is a nation that needs to be prayed for, I'm always gonna be behind Israel no matter what, I hope they can find Jesus and be saved before he returns.

I like that scripture Abide :D thats one of my faves!
 
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LoveSong you stated that

"All with different languages, religions, styles, hunting and laws they abide by. None of these are unified, people make the mistake of slapping us all together into one tribe and think that is how we work. There is too much diversity for the idea to work."

The Jews were and are still scattered all over the world, just because they CURRENTLY have different ways of life and languages doest not mean they are not Jews. The natives north and south may have different customs, languages, etc but their bloodline is the same.
 
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TheRealTruth said:
Are you Native on your father side? or mother? because there is no such thing as mixed. You are what your father is and NOT your mother. If your father was native American, then you will be Native. But if you Mother was Native and your father another nationality then you would be of the father. So are you Native on the father side?
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To answer your question both of my parents are Native Americans I am a full blooded Lakota Sioux from the Cheyenne River....My ancestors are Chief Low Dog, Chief Gall, Chief Crazy Horse (he wasn't really a chief more of a Headman leader), Chief Rains in the face...those are my blood relations. I know my stuff...I am not someone who has little blood in me...well maybe a tea spoon of French but I think I might of cried that blood out in my tears in my past.. *shrugs* :)
 
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My dad told me all my life i was an indian...i tanned well...then when
i grew up they told me i was french/german....i was so upset. Sorry french
and german people. well i had a great childhood being a indian anyway :)
He grew up on a Indian reservation and took me there...thats how he pulled
off the story :)
 
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TheRealTruth said:
LoveSong you stated that

"All with different languages, religions, styles, hunting and laws they abide by. None of these are unified, people make the mistake of slapping us all together into one tribe and think that is how we work. There is too much diversity for the idea to work."

The Jews were and are still scattered all over the world, just because they CURRENTLY have different ways of life and languages doest not mean they are not Jews. The natives north and south may have different customs, languages, etc but their bloodline is the same.
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Hey if you can prove it, that would be awesome like I said. I guess God can tell us himself, otherwise that tiny little piece of land is gonna become very crowded. j/k. :p
 
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all the true remnant of the jews have been and will be saved through faith in Jesus Christ..Romans 10 and 11.
The idea that ethnic or religious or national jews have special favor over Indians, africans, whomever is a myth.
 
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Lovesong said:
Hey if you can prove it, that would be awesome like I said. I guess God can tell us himself, otherwise that tiny little piece of land is gonna become very crowded. j/k. :p
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The kingdom to come, all of Israel shall have space abundant.
 
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My dad told me all my life i was an indian...i tanned well...then when
i grew up they told me i was french/german....i was so upset. Sorry french
and german people. well i had a great childhood being a indian anyway :)
He grew up on a Indian reservation and took me there...thats how he pulled
off the story :)
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well some people didn't like being indian a hundred years ago, so I don't mind hearing that. lol.
Oh well, on my reservation our people have this Tioyspiye system the family system,
where there are suppose to be no orphans, or people who starved.
The headmen/chiefs went first to battle they didn't send their weakest first. They gave to the poor and clothed them and took care of the widows. No one was left out. That system is weakening but I believe God honors his own commandments and laws, so I believe that we were still following them,
only we were like Job.

Anyway my point is, some people tried to treat others with respect. Things change with time though even with us.
 
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Lovesong said:
well some people didn't like being indian a hundred years ago, so I don't mind hearing that. lol.
Oh well, on my reservation our people have this Tioyspiye system the family system,
where there are suppose to be no orphans, or people who starved.
The headmen/chiefs went first to battle they didn't send their weakest first. They gave to the poor and clothed them and took care of the widows. No one was left out. That system is weakening but I believe God honors his own commandments and laws, so I believe that we were still following them,
only we were like Job.

Anyway my point is, some people tried to treat others with respect. Things change with time though even with us.
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Tioyspaye* thats how you spell it, Ugh I can't spell lol xD i'm tired..

so hopefully whoever your Grandpa was with treated him well.
 
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wow alot of poems...no time tonite but i found them :)
 
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The Native Americans do not speak the language of the Jews. They do not look like the Jews. They do not claim to be Jews. Did the Apocrapha say they sailed on boats like Christopher Colombus? I do not think so. So I do not see how you can say they are Jews.
 
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