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stonesoffire

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If we all were centered on Jesus, and being filled with Him daily, we wouldn't be looking around to see what others are doing. We would be heralding the King, and then others be drawn to Him through anointed words and acts. Will beat preaching legalism and dos and donts every time.
 
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PHart

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Some are so concerned and worried about the sins of others. Like Luke 18:9-11.

Just a guess but I'd bet they have enough all on their own to worry about. :D
Uh oh......unbeliever alert. This is the common response of the unbelievers I used to talk to.

I'm guessing no defense of what I'm saying about Christians watching nude people have sex is going to be forthcoming from you, right?
 

stonesoffire

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Most of the IMDB parents guide describe exactly what happens in the show. The descriptions themselves can be quite provocative, let alone actually watching it. But this is what many in the church defend as their right to watch. And then they go to church and act like Christians.
Act like Christians? How so?
 
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Uh oh......unbeliever alert. This is the common response of the unbelievers I used to talk to.

I'm guessing no defense of what I'm saying about Christians watching nude people have sex is going to be forthcoming from you, right?
Judge not lest ye be judged. Everyone and their momma knows that verse.
 

stonesoffire

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Read the thread.

Here's how you know what's in any show you'd like to watch: Parents Guide - IMDb

All you have to do is put <name of show> IMDB parents guide in a search engine, and, walla, there you go. So no more excuses for watching these shows, church.

Here's an excerpt:
Sex is a driving force of this series, and full nudity occurs quite frequently throughout each season, including extended instances of exposed breasts, buttocks, and genitals (both male and female). Viewers can expect to see and hear graphic sex scenes, many of which take place in a brothel, as well as several scenes and situations of incest, rape, and sexual violence (primarily towards females.
Well, just keep advertising it PHart. Seems to be uppermost in your thoughts for some reason.

I don't care. Never watched it. Never will. In fact, now it's mostly, The Good Doctor.
 

stonesoffire

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Deacons, deaconesses, greeters, faithful tithers, faithful church attenders, etc. Perhaps even Bible study leaders or worship leaders, prayer leaders.
And you peer into their windows to spy out their tv habits?
 
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Uh oh......unbeliever alert. This is the common response of the unbelievers I used to talk to.
...and now you call me lost by your assertions.


I'm guessing no defense of what I'm saying about Christians watching nude people have sex is going to be forthcoming from you, right?
Reread my response. Your problem is in judging EVERYONE and determining who are his and who are not. You need to stop weeding for tares and take a look at your own life a lot more. Especially your false gospel and wresting of Scripture.
 
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And you peer into their windows to spy out their tv habits?
Many admit it themselves. One pastor said he was working out to ACDC highway to hell. One of these megachurches. He said he was praying to the Lord on how to start His day and that came up. :D
 

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Scripture doesn't say this, you twist Scripture to make it appear it does.

His church is well. The scary thing is your false gospel, misinterpretations and misapplication.
Phart pretends to sit in the place of Jesus Christ judging the Church and of course he goes into every bodies living room to see who is watching "Game of Thrones", all of his judgments are false and pure nonsense. How could he possibly know all these things about the Church and what people choose to watch on TV, answer, he cannot. He is making all this nonsense up in his twisted mind.

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." Matt16:18.

Pharts gospel is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
 
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PHart

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Well, just keep advertising it PHart. Seems to be uppermost in your thoughts for some reason.

I don't care. Never watched it. Never will. In fact, now it's mostly, The Good Doctor.
Well, I'm not going to waste my whole day arguing with people who I have no choice but to consider being in unbelief by what they defend in the church. But I will take the time to explain to you what is so wrong and disheartening about fellow-shipping with people who say they are a Christian and are even active in the church but who do not live sanctified lives but rather willfully indulge sin.

You see, I want to live for God and do what's pleasing to him, because I believe the gospel and want to live in the manifest joy of his presence. And I need the encouragement and edification of other believers. I'm not an island unto myself. God designed us to need each other and be unified in the building up of each other. But it's incredibly disheartening to want that and seek that but be among others who don't want that and are willfully living in their sins, and thinking 'OSAS' as the defense for that lifestyle of sin. There is zero power in that kind of a meeting. But that is what the church is these days--Spiritless, dead, weak, boring meetings that don't help anybody lead a holy life.
 

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Well, I'm not going to waste my whole day arguing with people who I have no choice but to consider being in unbelief by what they defend in the church. But I will take the time to explain to you what is so wrong and disheartening about fellow-shipping with people who say they are a Christian and are even active in the church but who do not live sanctified lives but rather willfully indulge sin.

You see, I want to live for God and do what's pleasing to him, because I believe the gospel and want to live in the manifest joy of his presence. And I need the encouragement and edification of other believers. I'm not an island unto myself. God designed us to need each other and be unified in the building up of each other. But it's incredibly disheartening to want that and seek that but be among others who don't want that and are willfully living in their sins, and thinking 'OSAS' as the defense for that lifestyle of sin. There is zero power in that kind of a meeting. But that is what the church is these days--Spiritless, dead, weak, boring meetings that don't help anybody lead a holy life.
What do you do for entertainment and relaxation?
 
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PHart

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Phart pretends to sit in the place of Jesus Christ judging the Church and of course he goes into every bodies living room to see who is watching "Game of Thrones", all of his judgments are false and pure nonsense. How could he possibly know all these things about the Church and what people choose to watch on TV, answer, he cannot. He is making all this nonsense up in his twisted mind.

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." Matt16:18.

Pharts gospel is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
Good grief, tt, didn't you read the thread I linked to in an earlier thread?????
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You apparently do not have a clue what the obedient Christian life looks like.

The people who Christ will turn away in Matthew 7 he called 'lawless'.
You obviously have no clue what I know or what I do not know. I know what an obedient life looks like. I just would never judge if one was saved or not if they are obedient, I know non believers who are more morally advanced than many christians.

And you also have no idea what the term lawless means. The term lawless would include anyone who has not obeyed Christ in his gospel. Apart from Christ, ALL are lawless.

Again, You puffed yourself up. You claim your saved BECAUSE YOU WORK.. yet you deny you preach works. Once again, you have failed yourself. And your belief system
 

stonesoffire

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Many admit it themselves. One pastor said he was working out to ACDC highway to hell. One of these megachurches. He said he was praying to the Lord on how to start His day and that came up. :D
Lets get physical comes up in mind. Lol

I mean just now. I was thinking what worldly song would I choose. Not that I would.

Am joking. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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And then there are those who do truly believe and walk away from Christ in unbelief. Many Christians do not even realize they've walked away from Christ by what choice of TV viewing they do and defend doing. That's why you and others are not getting this. You think a works-less confession of faith is salvation. Just as long as it has the confessing Christ part in it you're okay. Good luck with that. You're going to need it on the Day of Wrath.

And you do not teach works.

lol. If anyone had a doubt that Phart teaches works. Here you have it. Our salvation is dependent on what we watch on tv. It is there in black and white.

Yet people will still defend him as saying he does not teach works.. SMH
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Tell that to the people in the church who vehemently defend their right to watch naked people perform explicit sexual acts on each other in the link I posted above.

Are you sinless Phart?

Why do you judge others? Are you God that you can throw the first stone

Another proof you are a Pharisee, You love casting stones.
 
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Well, I'm not going to waste my whole day arguing with people who I have no choice but to consider being in unbelief ...
More calling others lost on here.

You see, I want to live for God and do what's pleasing to him, because I believe the gospel and want to live in the manifest joy of his presence. And I need the encouragement and edification of other believers. I'm not an island unto myself. God designed us to need each other and be unified in the building up of each other. But it's incredibly disheartening to want that and seek that but be among others who don't want that and are willfully living in their sins, and thinking 'OSAS' as the defense for that lifestyle of sin. There is zero power in that kind of a meeting. But that is what the church is these days--Spiritless, dead, weak, boring meetings that don't help anybody lead a holy life.
More straw man no sense attempting to maligned those who believe the biblical teaching of eternal salvation as people defending sinful lives. Your accusations are ridiculous and untrue.