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A new version of working for....

We'll work till Jesus comes, We'll work till Jesus comes, We'll work till Jesus comes and still not make the cut........

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
 
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stonesoffire said:
And I've just spent my whole day online mostly here on CC, with all you beautiful brothers and sisters. Not wasted time. But, later guys.
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beastslayer1970 said:
I know what Sciatic pain is. I will not debate you, but will say, that most neurologists would also say that fusing a disc or cutting a nerve out is the best route. :)

I herniated the C3 and C4 in my neck and the MRI confirmed the need for massive neck surgery. The neurologist said I should get ready to live with 75% disability, including being in a wheel chair for 18 months during recovery. His plan was to cut the nerves and fuse the discs.

My Christian Chiropractor had his go and we stood in agreement for healing and I was back to walking, working and moving the left side of my body with no side effects[after care MRI proved it] in 4 months and no surgery.

Chirps are awesome if you find the right one.
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I had surgery at C5C6. That was the end of my nursing career. The fusion failed, and my entire spine has been affected. If you are talking about nerve cauterizations, it can be good, or it can go south on one. That's the last thing anyone should do for pain control.

I wish I had gone to the chiropractor too.
 
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stonesoffire said:
And I've just spent my whole day online mostly here on CC, with all you beautiful brothers and sisters. Not wasted time. But, later guys.
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Again, what works for one person may not work fort another. There are many causes.. Heat does not work for them all
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This isn't right EG. Ice is used for the first 24 hours of an injury. Then heat. Sometimes a combination of heat and ice is used but, not for sciatic pain.

Heat. Lol. I stand my ground.


and my iPad is acting up again. I didn't add that first paragraph.
 
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dcontroversal said:
A new version of working for....

We'll work till Jesus comes, We'll work till Jesus comes, We'll work till Jesus comes and still not make the cut........

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us....

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe
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Too many people ignore that God said our good works are as dirty rags to Him. He sees into our hearts and the reasoning behind them.
 
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Demi777 said:
Oh are we calling others names and sects again. Come on
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We are all sinners and come short of the glory of God. Therefore are prone to error. People get hung up over the distinctives of denominations instead of celebrating the common belief spoken of in the Apostles Creed. That was developed in the early church to seperate Christians from non Christians. It works today.
 
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Endoscopy said:
We are all sinners and come short of the glory of God. Therefore are prone to error. People get hung up over the distinctives of denominations instead of celebrating the common belief spoken of in the Apostles Creed. That was developed in the early church to seperate Christians from non Christians. It works today.
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Amen and thats the sad part. It works every time
 
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One sad thing is the 7 sisters (the 7 biggest protestant denominations) have been taken over by secular people. They want the prestige of being a minister and controlling pots of money. Gary North wrote a book Crossed Fingers about how secular people took over Presbyterian USA by 1932 when they defrocked the last believing minister in control of a pot of money for missions. There are still believing ministers in the denomination but they haven't been able to take back control.
 
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stonesoffire said:
I had surgery at C5C6. That was the end of my nursing career. The fusion failed, and my entire spine has been affected. If you are talking about nerve cauterizations, it can be good, or it can go south on one. That's the last thing anyone should do for pain control.

I wish I had gone to the chiropractor too.
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I have L5/S1 Disc herniation. They wanted to do surgery but everyone told me now (i worked in an orthodeadic clinic at the time) Glad I did not do it..
 
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stonesoffire said:
This isn't right EG. Ice is used for the first 24 hours of an injury. Then heat. Sometimes a combination of heat and ice is used but, not for sciatic pain.

Heat. Lol. I stand my ground.


and my iPad is acting up again. I didn't add that first paragraph.
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Again, Depends on what is causing it sis. My L5/S1 heat would not do anything, nor would Ice. It was too deep. My right foot will go numb sometimes, It worries me a bit. But I cant do anything about it. I am almost pain free. (I used to cough and my knee would hit the steering wheel so hard it would bruise my knee and knock the steering wheel up)


 
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Endoscopy said:
We are all sinners and come short of the glory of God. Therefore are prone to error. People get hung up over the distinctives of denominations instead of celebrating the common belief spoken of in the Apostles Creed. That was developed in the early church to seperate Christians from non Christians. It works today.
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Romans 3:21-26-

[SUP]21 [/SUP]But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, [SUP]22 [/SUP]even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; [SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [SUP]24 [/SUP]being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; [SUP]25 [/SUP]whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; [SUP]26 [/SUP]for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Why do so many people on this thread live their life according to Romans 3:23 and not see that after Jesus you no longer fall short? :confused:

This is not to say we are sinless or perfect after getting saved, we will still sin. Falling short is a condition before salvation and the free gift of imputed righteousness of Christ upon you.
 
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Some people, such as me, cannot tolerate ice on a bad back.. I use ThermaCare heat wraps. They truly make a difference and work wonders. :eek:



stonesoffire said:
This isn't right EG. Ice is used for the first 24 hours of an injury. Then heat. Sometimes a combination of heat and ice is used but, not for sciatic pain.

Heat. Lol. I stand my ground.


and my iPad is acting up again. I didn't add that first paragraph.
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eternally-gratefull said:
Again, Depends on what is causing it sis. My L5/S1 heat would not do anything, nor would Ice. It was too deep. My right foot will go numb sometimes, It worries me a bit. But I cant do anything about it. I am almost pain free. (I used to cough and my knee would hit the steering wheel so hard it would bruise my knee and knock the steering wheel up)
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odd, I have that too. In fact my whole spine weakened and have herniations everywhere. Then Syringomyelia developes at T6 and affects my heart. The CNS controls functions everywhere.

Am going to say this here since so many of us are suffering with pain. I started taking CBD oil 3 weeks ago, and severe pain has become minimal. I still take pain Meds but what was uncontrolled pain is mostly gone with the combination. Plus, other improvements in other ways.

Ive basically been housebound since 1988. Thanksgiving day, I went to the mall with my daughter. First time in many years to be in the mall.

And heat is for sciatic pain that goes down the leg. It feels like an electric current a bit. Is different than back pain, so was only addressing sciatic pain. Still holding ground. Lol.


Now, back to our regularly scheduled not by works thread. :)
 
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beastslayer1970 said:
Romans 3:21-26-

[SUP]21 [/SUP]But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, [SUP]22 [/SUP]even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; [SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [SUP]24 [/SUP]being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; [SUP]25 [/SUP]whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; [SUP]26 [/SUP]for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Why do so many people on this thread live their life according to Romans 3:23 and not see that after Jesus you no longer fall short? :confused:

This is not to say we are sinless or perfect after getting saved, we will still sin. Falling short is a condition before salvation and the free gift of imputed righteousness of Christ upon you.
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Thats true. We don't confess being sinners because that is no longer our nature.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Again, Depends on what is causing it sis. My L5/S1 heat would not do anything, nor would Ice. It was too deep. My right foot will go numb sometimes, It worries me a bit. But I cant do anything about it. I am almost pain free. (I used to cough and my knee would hit the steering wheel so hard it would bruise my knee and knock the steering wheel up)
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Broken coccyx?
 
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Heat does diddly squat for sciatic pain. It works wonders for bad backs or bulging disks, though...


The ONLY thing that helps sciatica pain is STRONG narcotic meds, and steroids. Also, the pain of sciatica is MUCH worse than the pain of a bad back...

stonesoffire said:
odd, I have that too. In fact my whole spine weakened and have herniations everywhere. Then Syringomyelia developes at T6 and affects my heart. The CNS controls functions everywhere.

Am going to say this here since so many of us are suffering with pain. I started taking CBD oil 3 weeks ago, and severe pain has become minimal. I still take pain Meds but what was uncontrolled pain is mostly gone with the combination. Plus, other improvements in other ways.

Ive basically been housebound since 1988. Thanksgiving day, I went to the mall with my daughter. First time in many years to be in the mall.

And heat is for sciatic pain that goes down the leg. It feels like an electric current a bit. Is different than back pain, so was only addressing sciatic pain. Still holding ground. Lol.


Now, back to our regularly scheduled not by works thread. :)
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blue_ladybug said:
Heat does diddly squat for sciatic pain. It works wonders for bad backs or bulging disks, though...


The ONLY thing that helps sciatica pain is STRONG narcotic meds, and steroids. Also, the pain of sciatica is MUCH worse than the pain of a bad back...
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grrrrr......lol
 
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