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Sadly you don't for if the "Fear of God" was "in you" you wouldn't be "so prideful".
Thank you for your opinion. Just don't don't harass me about what you think about me. Then we'll be good.
 

BillG

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Rosemary trembles at the word of God. She hears.
Sad really when one thinks it's ok to tremble at the word of God.

Psalms 119:105 (NKJV)


105 Your word is a lamp to my feet
And a light to my path.

A lamp that shines in our hearts, dealing with crap in it, yet at the same time bringing comfort.

If someone is frightened to read the Bible. There is a reason.
Like I used to be.

PS note saying Rose is like this. She devours the Bible.
 

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Yep. No renewal may mean you don't have the helmet of salvation you think you do. So make sure you do have it.....be renewed. Live a renewed life. Then you don't have to wonder. You'll know that you are ready to meet Jesus when he returns. Make your calling and election sure......live it out. Then we won't have to start a thread about you after you die wondering if you were really saved or not.

('you' means anybody)
Well, your armor got twisted. You might think about the breastplate and what it covers. Same with loins girded....Ralph.

Not knowing which was which says a lot.
 
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Sad really when one thinks it's ok to tremble at the word of God.
I was saving the reference for Joe, but here it is...

“These are the ones I look on with favor:those who are humble and contrite in spirit,and who tremble at my word."-Isaiah 66:2

If there is anyone in this forum who will read 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 and take it to heart it will be Rosemary. I don'think you're too far behind her, Bill.
 
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stonesoffire

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What was it about 'cleansed by the blood' that you did not get?

Just so determined to tear me down, aren't you.
I think you are doing a pretty good job on yourself Ralph. You whole outlook is about people, not God.

Something is wrong in that heart of yours to keep you in shadows. I say again. You feel you have been wronged by someone who was a friend.

Everyone will be tested this way at some point.
 
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Thank you for your opinion. Just don't don't harass me about what you think about me. Then we'll be good.
So do you really believe that "gloating","false accusations","tempting others to battle" "lieing" and "justifying lieing","forcing doctrines" and "deflecting" are "befitting of a Christian"?
 
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So do you really believe that "gloating","false accusations","tempting others to battle" "lieing" and "justifying lieing","forcing doctrines" and "deflecting" are "befitting of a Christian"?
Seriously, your opinion is fine. But you need to let it go now. I'm not holding what I think about you against you. That's what Christians do.
 
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joefizz

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Seriously, your opinion is fine. But you need to let it go now. I'm not holding what I think about you against you. That's what Christians do.
Oh really,so you are an atheist instead of a Christian thank you for clarifying.
 
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Look how fitting the Isaiah 66 passage is to this thread...

"Hear the word of the Lord,you who tremble at his word:“Your own people who hate you,and exclude you because of my name, have said,‘Let the Lord be glorified,that we may see your joy!’Yet they will be put to shame."-Isaiah 66:5
 
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Oh really,so you are an atheist instead of a Christian thank you for clarifying.
Whatever that means.

But really, Joe. Time to let it go. Time to respond in the perfection of Christ.
 

BillG

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I was saving the reference for Joe, but here it is...

“These are the ones I look on with favor:those who are humble and contrite in spirit,and who tremble at my word."-Isaiah 66:2

If there is anyone in this forum who will read 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 and take it to heart it will be Rosemary. I don'think you're too far behind her, Bill.

You don't think I am too far behind her????????????????????

Rose this is not me slanting you at all. Seems like Ralph wants to compare us.

Ralph but you are bang out of order with your last sentence.
 

BillG

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I was saving the reference for Joe, but here it is...

“These are the ones I look on with favor:those who are humble and contrite in spirit,and who tremble at my word."-Isaiah 66:2

If there is anyone in this forum who will read 1 Corinthians 11:29-30 and take it to heart it will be Rosemary. I don'think you're too far behind her, Bill.
Can you clarify as to what you think tremble means?
To me it means to be frightened, hence my post.
I should have asked you first, before my post.
 
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You don't think I am too far behind her????????????????????

Rose this is not me slanting you at all. Seems like Ralph wants to compare us.

Ralph but you are bang out of order with your last sentence.
I know I'll be condemned for judging, lol, but I can see you have a good heart. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.
 
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Can you clarify as to what you think tremble means?
To me it means to be frightened, hence my post.
I should have asked you first, before my post.
It means fear. We should fear the Lord's punishment, chastisement, discipline whatever you want to call it. Only a fool would not fear God's punishment. They show they either don't care about his punishment, or they don't believe he does that. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. Fear of God is the foundation of wisdom.
 

stonesoffire

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Look how fitting the Isaiah 66 passage is to this thread...

"Hear the word of the Lord,you who tremble at his word:“Your own people who hate you,and exclude you because of my name, have said,‘Let the Lord be glorified,that we may see your joy!’Yet they will be put to shame."-Isaiah 66:5
The fear that these scriptures speak of has been done away with.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.


Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.


 

BillG

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I know I'll be condemned for judging, lol, but I can see you have a good heart. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Coming across as judging or me having a good heart:cool:
 
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"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"-Proverbs 9:10

"To fear the Lord is to hate evil"-Proverbs 8:13


Can't be on line all day, people. See you later if I don't get banned for saying what the Bible says. The word has been planted and that's all that matters. It will grow where it grows.
 

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I'm making sure people know to have wedding clothes on in preparation for the wedding feast when Jesus comes back. You're telling them faith that is alone when Jesus comes back is enough.
Hi Ralph...Do you not see us as like the 5 wise virgins , who came prepared with extra oil :) , not relying on anyone else but Jesus Himself...We have our Lamps lit , Jesus is our oil , He keeps us burning bright , He restores us when we fall , we are His...

When we do good deeds , it is God who wills us , I go through seasons where sometimes I feel like I do not do enough , my days are quiet , I spend a lot of time on my own and then out the blue when I go out , normally something happens , and when I get home and look back on my day , I know it was God who willed me to do the good that I done...

We can not force good works or else that would be working in our own strength , although we walk with the fruit of the Spirit so others can see our light shining which is Jesus inside of us :)...

The Holy Spirit will not abide in anyone who claims to be born again , who does not practice how we are told to walk , it is impossible not to change once we have the Holy Spirit...I love that the bible uses the word practice , it means that as we walk while we practice , we will fall down , we will and do stumble , and we press on making less mistakes because we keep on practicing...I am so glad that Jesus never said " If you do not get this right first time then you are out , done , thrown away...Praise God that He is patient amongst all the other beautiful things that He is...xox...
 
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If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Coming across as judging or me having a good heart:cool:
It's a literary device. I don't know the name of it. But if we were speaking face to face my voice inflection would show you I don't think I'm wrong about your heart.
 
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Hi Ralph...Do you not see us as like the 5 wise virgins , who came prepared with extra oil :) , not relying on anyone else but Jesus Himself...We have our Lamps lit , Jesus is our oil , He keeps us burning bright , He restores us when we fall , we are His...

When we do good deeds , it is God who wills us , I go through seasons where sometimes I feel like I do not do enough , my days are quiet , I spend a lot of time on my own and then out the blue when I go out , normally something happens , and when I get home and look back on my day , I know it was God who willed me to do the good that I done...

We can not force good works or else that would be working in our own strength , although we walk with the fruit of the Spirit so others can see our light shining which is Jesus inside of us :)...

The Holy Spirit will not abide in anyone who claims to be born again , who does not practice how we are told to walk , it is impossible not to change once we have the Holy Spirit...I love that the bible uses the word practice , it means that as we walk while we practice , we will fall down , we will and do stumble , and we press on making less mistakes because we keep on practicing...I am so glad that Jesus never said " If you do not get this right first time then you are out , done , thrown away...Praise God that He is patient amongst all the other beautiful things that He is...xox...
Maybe the breakdown here is in understanding HOW we get wedding clothes. I'm not suggesting for a minute we sew them for ourselves. They are the result of the faith that justifies. Our responsibility is to not suppress or quench the Spirit with in us-1 Thessalonians 5:19. That's not working. That's letting God do his work in us.