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By the way, if you did not notice mockery is sometimes the best form of flattery,
so thankyou guys for the effort, go guys
 
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By the way, if you did not notice mockery is sometimes the best form of flattery,
so thankyou guys for the effort, go guys
HAHAHHA keep telling yourself that.....something about grandiose delusions comes to mind when I read posts like this...
 
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hate to say it, But this proves your not listening to a word DC says or know what he believes.
I'm sorry bro. I didn't know he was your pastor here. My apologies.

New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 3:1-7 On Divisions in the Church Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
 
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You can continue to post your working for drivel LLH...heck you can post it 1,000,000 times and 1....it will still not be right, is false and not of GOD......
Hello dcontroversal,

I am glad you are brave enough to express your opinion though with nothing more
than that. That is as useful as a cardboard barrier against a tank, totally irrelevant.

The power of the words are in what they represent. If no one repents, puts their faith
in Jesus and does works, flowing from a pure heart, you are safe. If on the other hand
through Christ people are already walking this road, which they are, and being victorious,
you have already lost the discussion.

And my friend, year in year out, God will bring fruit from this reality in the hearts of those
who belong to the Kingdom of God.

Praise the Lord for the work of His salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen
 
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Hello dcontroversal,

I am glad you are brave enough to express your opinion though with nothing more
than that. That is as useful as a cardboard barrier against a tank, totally irrelevant.

The power of the words are in what they represent. If no one repents, puts their faith
in Jesus and does works, flowing from a pure heart, you are safe. If on the other hand
through Christ people are already walking this road, which they are, and being victorious,
you have already lost the discussion.

And my friend, year in year out, God will bring fruit from this reality in the hearts of those
who belong to the Kingdom of God.

Praise the Lord for the work of His salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen
Amen bro.

New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.
 
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Neither one of you clowns know what you are talking about....especially Peter.....
 

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By the way, if you did not notice mockery is sometimes the best form of flattery,
so thankyou guys for the effort, go guys
this is not mockery- there used to be a guy with the name of peterjens, he thought he was sinless, based on his own opinion of himself. he was wrong, of course, no one is.

so, you seem to saying a lot of the same things. if you are him, then you are sinning right now by being deceptive, as you are not supposed to be here.

if you are not him, my apologizes. but you are still wrong. salvation is not a joint effort between you and God. you are saved by grace, it is not of yourself.
 
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I'm sorry bro. I didn't know he was your pastor here. My apologies.

New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 3:1-7 On Divisions in the Church Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
Thanks ElArmor, I did not know that. The world is stranger than I thought.
 
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You can continue to post your working for drivel LLH...heck you can post it 1,000,000 times and 1....it will still not be right, is false and not of GOD......
he still has not answered what all those posts he ousted on purity has to do with salvation, justification, and getting to heaven. Now he is gonna act like this, and think anyone will listen to him.

I think that train has left the station
 
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Neither one of you clowns know what you are talking about....especially Peter.....
The oracle has spoken. I feel humbled and trembling in my boots, the insight,
the thrust of wit and truth, pouring out from the wise use of the words of scripture.
Opps, I apologise, I made a mistake, none of that is present, just a little jibe.

Can the Kingdom of God be stopped or brought down with little jibes? Nope.

And the power of God works, because He, Jesus Christ speaks to our hearts, and
gives us birth into His Kingdom where we literally listen to Him.

Praise be His glorious Name, acts and love, Amen
 
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By the way, if you did not notice mockery is sometimes the best form of flattery,
so thankyou guys for the effort, go guys

Lol. You rmocking yourself and you can not even see it..Then again, Niether could Peter.

 
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he still has not answered what all those posts he ousted on purity has to do with salvation, justification, and getting to heaven. Now he is gonna act like this, and think anyone will listen to him.

I think that train has left the station
Yeah they are both off the rails...now I am your pastor....If I was your pastor I would say...keep lighting up the workers for HAHA
 
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I'm sorry bro. I didn't know he was your pastor here. My apologies.

New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 3:1-7 On Divisions in the Church Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
My pastor? No, he is not that, He lives in another part of the country. So again you have it wrong.

Are you going to post anything that he really does not believe, or keep accusing him of something he does nto teach?
 
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Hello dcontroversal,

I am glad you are brave enough to express your opinion though with nothing more
than that. That is as useful as a cardboard barrier against a tank, totally irrelevant.

The power of the words are in what they represent. If no one repents, puts their faith
in Jesus and does works, flowing from a pure heart, you are safe. If on the other hand
through Christ people are already walking this road, which they are, and being victorious,
you have already lost the discussion.

And my friend, year in year out, God will bring fruit from this reality in the hearts of those
who belong to the Kingdom of God.

Praise the Lord for the work of His salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen
Another one who has no idea what DC teaches.

DC preaches ALL people who are saved will produce fruit. So your preaching to the choir.

Are you going to answer the questions you ghave been asked by so many people? Or keep proving your just here to cause dissection and have no real form of humility?
 
Jan 25, 2018
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Interesting point, who listens to God.

Those with eyes and ears. One does not have to have a full explanation, that is always
for the believer to work out. That is the power of walking with God.

If one had to answer all the questions raised from address a point before a point was
taken on board, no teacher would ever be able to finish teaching the simplest points.
 
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Amen bro.

New International Version 1984 1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.

Yeah it is power. So why do you both not teach it? But teach that God can fail?
 
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Another one who has no idea what DC teaches.

DC preaches ALL people who are saved will produce fruit. So your preaching to the choir.

Are you going to answer the questions you ghave been asked by so many people? Or keep proving your just here to cause dissection and have no real form of humility?
Sorry, not sure what you mean, can you explain further?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The oracle has spoken. I feel humbled and trembling in my boots, the insight,
the thrust of wit and truth, pouring out from the wise use of the words of scripture.
Opps, I apologise, I made a mistake, none of that is present, just a little jibe.

Can the Kingdom of God be stopped or brought down with little jibes? Nope.

And the power of God works, because He, Jesus Christ speaks to our hearts, and
gives us birth into His Kingdom where we literally listen to Him.

Praise be His glorious Name, acts and love, Amen
You preach the power of God, yet deny it. CLaiming God can fail to keep one saved, thus he has to maintain his own salvation.

Your a hero in your own world.
 
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Salvation - repentance, faith, works - founded on purity

Lose any part of the three and ones salvation goes.

Repentance - to abide in wilfull rebellion and sin. Heb 10:26-27
faith - to cease to trust God saves you and the cross forgives you. Hebrews 11:6
works - cease to exercise love flowing through ones life. James 2:26

Repentance
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Heb 10:26-27
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? ......you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Faith
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Heb 11:6
We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. Heb 3:14

Works
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead James 2:26
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. 1 Peter 3:9

Eternity is pure, without sin, holy, without blemish. What we call blemish and what God calls
blemish is different. We pick at the smallest details, the right way to be polite or show someone
we are together, or not be condemning, or not appreciating enough, or upsetting someone by
being too firm and not recognise our sinful allegiance to wealth, power, sexual desire, selfish
indulgences, holidays we just cannot go without, recognition of our achievements, what we
deserve.

We are happy to be violent within, a raging inferno, lusting after any opportunity that comes along,
wanting that bigger house, car, position, yet outside we want to be seen as being religious, following
Jesus, getting close to others and helping them, in their poor state of spiritual distress.

Little wonder purity is rejected or intimacy and closeness, it would result in a explosion with many injuries.

But this is what Jesus saw in the pharisees. He saw much that was good, but without taming the heart
and being gentle within, there is no real hope of showing true love without.