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He's not preaching ANYTHING because until one is baptized by the Holy Spirit with "CONFORMATION" they are NOTHING!
So...you're here to tell others they're lost, of the devil, satanic, evil &c.

Is there anyone else that is saved here but you? :confused:
 
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when i asked to debate

i asked for scripture

you are making a logical fallacy

but i understand you arent doing this on purpose

because you believe someone can be saved

then not be saved


we are saved by grace
through faith <-

the faith that saves a man is placed in Christ
and it isnt some weak dead faith that can be lost


the same way you can know you were born


you can know you were born again

Ezekiel 36:26
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.


when this happens


1 peter

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:


this happens


and when this happens


Romans 8

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.


16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

this happens
Dear heart, stop fooling yourself!

If we aren't "saved" THE WAY Jesus said, you can forget it (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8)!
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Dear heart, stop fooling yourself!

If we aren't "saved" THE WAY Jesus said, you can forget it (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8)!
john 6

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
 
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i meant exactly what i said

not what you are trying to impute to my post
Well let me GIVE WORD "AGAIN!"

John 10:1! Can't come in ANY OTHER WAY but by "THE DOOR" meaning "DO WHAT JESUS SAID NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET IN!"

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is [Holy Spirit] baptized shall be SAVED. He that believeth NOT shall be DAMNED."

Can we "GET IN" otherwise?

Mark 16:17 "And THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW..." which are ALL MIRACULOUS actions!

Can we "GET IN" otherwise?

Mark 16:20 "And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the LORD working with them, and CONFIRMING the word with SIGNS FOLLOWING."

Any "SIGNS FOLLOWING? Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

Now *I* didn't say this; JESUS SAID THIS!

I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13:

"But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to EVERY MAN to profit withal" (v7) and vs 8-10 lists "Spiritual gifts" that are MIRACULOUS! Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

(v13) "For by one SPIRIT are we all baptized into one body..."

Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

Now did *I* say this or DID JESUS SAY THIS?


Your favorite:

"LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR" (ROMANS 3:4)!
 
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Just some random kid popping by... no beed to mind me but i kinda agree with no name here..... he was saved and preached the gospel for 30 years and eventually becomes an atheist. I don't4 think he was saved in the first place as noname said cuz for someone to be "saved" and "preach the gospel' for "30" years needs a lot of conviction to believe that God doesn't exist and wheter or not there were some convincing facts.. to renounce God after all that means he wasn't saved at all... except we are not getting your definition of saved.
For him to have gone 30 years of preaching even when knowing what he will face... infact.... to renounce God after all that struggle means he never believed at all.... he was just deceiving himself and others.
Like i said... some random kid popping in.. no need to mind me
Well random visits in this forum is alright with especially if someone brings "truth" as you have,every once in awhile winerose shows up to heckle a little which I never get tired of and even my friend Gop has started entering bible discussion forum making some good points I always look forward to new input!
 
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So...you're here to tell others they're lost, of the devil, satanic, evil &c.

Is there anyone else that is saved here but you? :confused:
Is there anyone else that has been baptized by the Holy Spirit the way JESUS SAID?

Are there any "SIGNS FOLLOWING" (Mark 16:17)?

Did they receive "POWER" to be a witness unto HIM" (Acts 1:8)?

Idk!

So far; no one has given their testimony (Lk 9:26)!
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Well let me GIVE WORD "AGAIN!"

John 10:1! Can't come in ANY OTHER WAY but by "THE DOOR" meaning "DO WHAT JESUS SAID NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET IN!"

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is [Holy Spirit] baptized shall be SAVED. He that believeth NOT shall be DAMNED."

Can we "GET IN" otherwise?

Mark 16:17 "And THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW..." which are ALL MIRACULOUS actions!

Can we "GET IN" otherwise?

Mark 16:20 "And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the LORD working with them, and CONFIRMING the word with SIGNS FOLLOWING."

Any "SIGNS FOLLOWING? Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

Now *I* didn't say this; JESUS SAID THIS!

I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13:

"But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to EVERY MAN to profit withal" (v7) and vs 8-10 lists "Spiritual gifts" that are MIRACULOUS! Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

(v13) "For by one SPIRIT are we all baptized into one body..."

Can't "GET IN" otherwise!

Now did *I* say this or DID JESUS SAY THIS?


Your favorite:

"LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR" (ROMANS 3:4)!

i think you need to learn how to apply context to the verses you post....


i literally feel like im talking to a broken record player..... that is playing a record that didnt know what it was talking about
 
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john 6

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
"Believeth on ME" means "believing on EVERYTHING HE SAID!"

Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8!

Do you?

I John 2:3-5!
 
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NoNameMcgee

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john 6

47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
here is a bump for all those who disregard the words of Jesus



to the sapplings

dont fear those who attack your faith

God knows His children

and to the wolves....


i hope Gods will is done on your life....

swiftly



blessings to my brothers and sisters....


ill be back to knock down any other false doctrine tomorrow

;)
 
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i think you need to learn how to apply context to the verses you post....


i literally feel like im talking to a broken record player..... that is playing a record that didnt know what it was talking about
Oh!

So the WORD OF GOD doesn't know what HE'S talking about?

Read the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) and you'll call GOD "a broken record!"

GOD SAID IT (Mark 16:16-20; I Corinthians 12:7-10; 13; Acts 1:5; 8)
AND THERE'S *NOTHING* YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT (DANIEL 4:35)!
 
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Is there anyone else that has been baptized by the Holy Spirit the way JESUS SAID?

Are there any "SIGNS FOLLOWING" (Mark 16:17)?

Did they receive "POWER" to be a witness unto HIM" (Acts 1:8)?

Idk!

So far; no one has given their testimony (Lk 9:26)!
I see, so you think you're the only one saved here and are sure no one else is unless they check off all the above and believe the passages just as you do. What if they believe all the passages exactly like you, but one they don't agree exactly as you. Do they get zapped and sent to hell?

Also, start with your testimony: Tell us all the signs you've produced, show us the power of witnessing, and tell us how you were baptized exactly as Jesus said.
 
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here is a bump for all those who disregard the words of Jesus



to the sapplings

dont fear those who attack your faith

God knows His children

and to the wolves....


i hope Gods will is done on your life....

swiftly



blessings to my brothers and sisters....


ill be back to knock down any other false doctrine tomorrow

;)
You'll knock yourself down then for I GIVE WORD!

Have a good night!

Blessings
 
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You'll knock yourself down then for I GIVE WORD!

Have a good night!

Blessings
I commend you for knowing some verses. Also, being honest, you take nearly all of them out of context and come to faulty conclusions. Can we still be friends?
 

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Is there anyone else that has been baptized by the Holy Spirit the way JESUS SAID?

Are there any "SIGNS FOLLOWING" (Mark 16:17)?

Did they receive "POWER" to be a witness unto HIM" (Acts 1:8)?

Idk!

So far; no one has given their testimony (Lk 9:26)!
I suggest you ask yourself that question. You might claim to have been baptized but your works and words don't follow that of someone who has been truly baptized... you say things then twist bible scriptures to back it up. You just straight out attacked someone asking him whether or not he was baptized the way jesus said it. Of what concern is to you and i don't think you are in the right place to say whether someone is truly baptized or just in deciet cause you are nothing but man. I can't remember this verse properly but who are to judge others.. when did we make ourselves judges and that which you judged someone you shall also be judged and those measures you use to judge someone and ask if they follow shall also be meted unto you. You call yourself a christian acting like holier-than-thou but take a look at all your posts and think within yourself if that is what Jesus would do... nobody is and nobody can be Jesus-perfect but to me... not saying you are and not really caring... you seem like an hypocrite stuck in a hole and knows the way out but too blind to see it.
 
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I see, so you think you're the only one saved here and are sure no one else is unless they check off all the above and believe the passages just as you do. What if they believe all the passages exactly like you, but one they don't agree exactly as you. Do they get zapped and sent to hell?

Also, start with your testimony: Tell us all the signs you've produced, show us the power of witnessing, and tell us how you were baptized exactly as Jesus said.
You're not "agreeing with *me*, I GIVE WORD and either you AGREE WITH GOD or go; in "UNBELIEF" (Hebrews 3:19)!

Baptized by the Holy Spirit with dreams following (Daniel 4; Isaiah 61)!

Have "Spiritual gifts" of "laying on of hands, tongues, and wisdom and knowledge" in HIS WORD!

Speaks to me DIRECTLY (Jeremiah 31:34) giving word "Inhabicommunicable" - GOOGLE!

Show me things to come!

I don't know if this counts (I Can't remember ALL the benefits) but yesterday my girls took the kid's bike to the bicycle repairman who lives around the corner and I told her before she left "Joe might be dead because he is an old man" (around 75)! When she returned she said "Mama the house was locked and a sign on the door that said "Joe DOB/DOD"

It's too many things to remember! Everyday things! They come so frequently they're just a part of life now!

JESUS IS ALIVE! JESUS IS WORKING! JESUS IS REAL!

Matthew 11:25 "I thank thee, O Father, LORD of heaven and earth, because thou hast HID these things from the wise and the prudent, and REVEALED them unto babes."

THANK YOU JESUS!
 

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So...you're here to tell others they're lost, of the devil, satanic, evil &c.

Is there anyone else that is saved here but you? :confused:
Thank you Preacher; 4 days of her taking over this thread and every one is taking the bait, good grief. All we have heard from her for 4 days is insults and condemnation of the lovely brother's and sister's on this forum, just a shameless individual. If she has not been reported to the moderator's yet, I pray someone will. God bless you Preacher.
 

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105,000 views left until we hit 1,000,000 views! lol
 
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I suggest you ask yourself that question. You might claim to have been baptized but your works and words don't follow that of someone who has been truly baptized... you say things then twist bible scriptures to back it up. You just straight out attacked someone asking him whether or not he was baptized the way jesus said it. Of what concern is to you and i don't think you are in the right place to say whether someone is truly baptized or just in deciet cause you are nothing but man. I can't remember this verse properly but who are to judge others.. when did we make ourselves judges and that which you judged someone you shall also be judged and those measures you use to judge someone and ask if they follow shall also be meted unto you. You call yourself a christian acting like holier-than-thou but take a look at all your posts and think within yourself if that is what Jesus would do... nobody is and nobody can be Jesus-perfect but to me... not saying you are and not really caring... you seem like an hypocrite stuck in a hole and knows the way out but too blind to see it.
You poor thing!

GOD LOVES JUDGMENT!

I Peter 4:17 "For the time is come that JUDGMENT must began at the house of GOD: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that OBEY NOT the gospel of GOD?"

I want to be JUDGED according to HIS WORD! I JUDGE myself according to HIS WORD!

I Corinthians 6:3 "Know ye not that we shall JUDGE ANGELS? how much more things that pertain to this life?"

What you've been TAUGHT as being "Religiously correct" is what you don't see!

I OBEY THE WORD OF GOD!

Did you see GOD SAY "JUDGE?"

Sound like that's not what RELIGION has taught you!

I GIVE TRUTH!

I GIVE WORD!
 

TruthTalk

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I knew when that Bible Discussion site shut down, the trolls would be alive and well on this site. What a shame.
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