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He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.



HAS-verb
Third person singular present tense of HAVE


Has is defined as to possess or own something.

Believe in JESUS<---YOU currently HAVE everlasting life.......NO WORKS HERE, but rather BELIEF!
 
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Good morning BDF denizens.

Did you miss me? Of course you did. :) Yes you did, don't deny it. Y'all missed me.. :eek:
 
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dcontroversal said:
He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.



HAS-verb
Third person singular present tense of HAVE


Has is defined as to possess or own something.

Believe in JESUS<---YOU currently HAVE everlasting life.......NO WORKS HERE, but rather BELIEF!
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GM DC! :)
I would rather have "believe on" be defined in more depth. I guess because...I have truly had no struggle since I met Him other than that "believe on" and my own hypocrisies regarding it.
 
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dcontroversal said:
He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.


HAS-verb
Third person singular present tense of HAVE


Has is defined as to possess or own something.

Believe in JESUS<---YOU currently HAVE everlasting life.......NO WORKS HERE, but rather BELIEF!
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Amen! Notice that this BELIEF is not in ourselves, getting baptized, church attendance, or any other type of good work. Notice also that this BELIEF is not in Jesus Christ "plus something else," otherwise the BELIEF (trust, reliance) would not be "ON THE SON".
 
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mailmandan said:
Amen! Notice that this BELIEF is not in ourselves, getting baptized, church attendance, or any other type of good work. Notice also that this BELIEF is not in Jesus Christ "plus something else," otherwise the BELIEF (trust, reliance) would not be "ON THE SON".
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Amen....it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE.....end of story.....and like the word states...

if it is of works then it is NO LONGER GRACE........

grace-->free and a gift John 3:16

worked for-->OWED and no longer grace
 
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Is he not loving though that when his children do not do what is right to correct them?

God is not careless with his children but loving
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Amen to this one as well....loves us, will chasten us in love........
 
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dcontroversal said:
He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.



HAS-verb
Third person singular present tense of HAVE


Has is defined as to possess or own something.

Believe in JESUS<---YOU currently HAVE everlasting life.......NO WORKS HERE, but rather BELIEF!
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And also he that believs in him until the end also has everlasting life...
 
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To believe in something daily is a works no matter how much one tries to avoid the obvious...


To Do the works of the lord daily is living accordingly to the belief that God inspires us to to have.

Why should i bee seen a villian for this That works of faith are a direct result of your soul continuing to receive salvation...
 
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mailmandan said:
Amen! Notice that this BELIEF is not in ourselves, getting baptized, church attendance, or any other type of good work. Notice also that this BELIEF is not in Jesus Christ "plus something else," otherwise the BELIEF (trust, reliance) would not be "ON THE SON".
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To disrespect the holy sacrements is also the reason why so many dont attend christian gatherings in church..
 
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JIMBO43 said:
To believe in something daily is a works no matter how much one tries to avoid the obvious...


To Do the works of the lord daily is living accordingly to the belief that God inspires us to to have.

Why should i bee seen a villian for this That works of faith are a direct result of your soul continuing to receive salvation...
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works or grace...not both

works do not save or keep saved.....end of story!
 
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JIMBO43 said:
Lol its so much fun posting whilst all the crazy yanks are in bed fast asleep.. :D i think i will only post every sunday early morning from now on..

Them maybe i wont become what i mingle with,,, but then i think hmm maybe i should be a pillar like God calls me to be...

Sweet dreams kids

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Cute kid picture...and I wasn't asleep. We broke dow, camp and drove home this morning. Most folks are probably in church. Or getting ready at 8:41 am

Ps. I advocate everyone have a peaceful, meek and quiet spirit without the picture incentive, but did like the picture.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
Good morning BDF denizens.

Did you miss me? Of course you did. :) Yes you did, don't deny it. Y'all missed me.. :eek:
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That depends on whether I'm a BDF denizen (whatever that means)
 
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JIMBO43 said:
To believe in something daily is a works no matter how much one tries to avoid the obvious...


To Do the works of the lord daily is living accordingly to the belief that God inspires us to to have.

Why should i bee seen a villian for this That works of faith are a direct result of your soul continuing to receive salvation...
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Belief (faith,trust) is not a work JIMBO, just like thinking is not a work. Doing the work of the Lord does not make you a villain. But belief and work do not equal salvation.
That is your stance, and that is why you may be perceived a certain way, because what you say about salvation (something we as believers all have and rely on for our eternal survival) is incorrect.
 
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What do you mean by that?
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well i mean that many churches have closed down in england. :(

Ans aslo many people think that its only catholics that do sacrements..... its not because catholics are christian..
 
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JIMBO43 said:
well i mean that many churches have closed down in england. :(

Ans aslo many people think that its only catholics that do sacrements..... its not because catholics are christian..
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So do you believe in Transubstantiation?
 
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limey410 said:
Belief (faith,trust) is not a work JIMBO, just like thinking is not a work. Doing the work of the Lord does not make you a villain. But belief and work do not equal salvation.
That is your stance, and that is why you may be perceived a certain way, because what you say about salvation (something we as believers all have and rely on for our eternal survival) is incorrect.
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For the 5 hudreth time works and faith are a fruit of belief.... without belief the stallion may as well be dead..

And without belief faith and works do not come..

Its is both works and faith that is a daily fruit of an ongoing daily process of the soul continuing to recieve salvation..

Ie once saved and once saved again..
 
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