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Get real man. It's not about taking sides at all.
Its called discussing things, agreeing to disagree and if we do it's not an issue.
Its only an issue when people start going at each other.
Which for some reason over the last few pages you have decided to do me. Just so you know I won't let you.
I have asked you many times to post any post I have made where I have called you a liar, consider you evil but you haven't done so. I said if you do I will apologise.
And you just posted the following
Calling me a fool who fools people.
Playing a sympathy game and grow up and fight my own battles.
whose attacking who here?
Its called discussing things, agreeing to disagree and if we do it's not an issue.
Its only an issue when people start going at each other.
Which for some reason over the last few pages you have decided to do me. Just so you know I won't let you.
I have asked you many times to post any post I have made where I have called you a liar, consider you evil but you haven't done so. I said if you do I will apologise.
And you just posted the following
Calling me a fool who fools people.
Playing a sympathy game and grow up and fight my own battles.
whose attacking who here?
works that are to come..
Isaiah 27:6
6In the days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will blossom and sprout, And they will fill the whole world with fruit. 7
by works we are saved enough said...
Isaiah 27:6
6In the days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will blossom and sprout, And they will fill the whole world with fruit. 7
by works we are saved enough said...
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yeah that really helps you Peter, Ariel was wrong about the hyper grace gospel, I corrected he by saying they teach the same gospel she does.
Second, you quoted it as if one person said it, maybe you need to learn how to quote
so once again, in your feeble attempt to prove EG wrong at all cost, you just humiliated yourself because you could not see what was being said.
yes, and I will tell you many mtimes re times if you do not stop, stop trying to think you know what everyone thinks, and telling them such.
you will get into less trouble
if it is getting old then stop doing it, It is getting rather old having my beliefs lied about by you, and being told I believe something I do not
yeah that really helps you Peter, Ariel was wrong about the hyper grace gospel, I corrected he by saying they teach the same gospel she does.
Second, you quoted it as if one person said it, maybe you need to learn how to quote
so once again, in your feeble attempt to prove EG wrong at all cost, you just humiliated yourself because you could not see what was being said.
yes, and I will tell you many mtimes re times if you do not stop, stop trying to think you know what everyone thinks, and telling them such.
you will get into less trouble
if it is getting old then stop doing it, It is getting rather old having my beliefs lied about by you, and being told I believe something I do not
Jim, I have to be frank with you. Bill unlike others has not said I am lying,
being evil, of satan, having a demon, lying about him and what he believes,
done shm, said I have slandered him, insulted him, he has actually been
very straight, and for that I love him.
Now we may not agree on some theological issues but we know what touches
our heart. I still use the testimony of the guy about to commit suicide getting
a call from a christian friend. God always works through people in different situations,
but you have to wait and listen and hear peoples hearts.
None of us is "sorted" and we all come with histories, so you need to be as innocent
as doves and wise as serpents. The battle has never been with people but spiritual
issues and direction. So you have to be able to forgive, forget, and move one.
Dear brother, just take time, and know the God is our Lord, He is the Lord of love
and openness, giving everyone a chance to engage and so must we, because He is
our example. I hope I can encourage you, and you can ignore the darts of the evil
one with the shield of faith and the breast plate of righteousness.
God bless you.
being evil, of satan, having a demon, lying about him and what he believes,
done shm, said I have slandered him, insulted him, he has actually been
very straight, and for that I love him.
Now we may not agree on some theological issues but we know what touches
our heart. I still use the testimony of the guy about to commit suicide getting
a call from a christian friend. God always works through people in different situations,
but you have to wait and listen and hear peoples hearts.
None of us is "sorted" and we all come with histories, so you need to be as innocent
as doves and wise as serpents. The battle has never been with people but spiritual
issues and direction. So you have to be able to forgive, forget, and move one.
Dear brother, just take time, and know the God is our Lord, He is the Lord of love
and openness, giving everyone a chance to engage and so must we, because He is
our example. I hope I can encourage you, and you can ignore the darts of the evil
one with the shield of faith and the breast plate of righteousness.
God bless you.
EG - I understand you better. You are very task oriented. You like your theology in precise
boxes and this is what you believe and nothing else. Generalities are not acceptable to you.
So no one can ever present your position. That is certainly one way of looking at things.
Not very helpful and rather combative.
Now truly I do not need a lecture from a school teacher as if you are responsible for me.
It is neither appropriate or respectful.
Now the device you refuse to accept is to summarise a position, and then say why you
ones own position is different. You literally hate this approach. But it is how one debates
and contrasts. You cannot contrast a point with an empty space.
Let me say it like this, imagine I like "german shepherd dogs" and you like "retriever dogs"
I would then contrast the two dogs to show why I prefer this over that.
It is just a device to show preference.
You take it as an insult, a slander, a slur, or whatever.
When will you ever learn how to think the best of others and they are not
out to get you or be evil or destroy you.
God bless you, my Christ our Lord and King fill you with His love and grace so
you can but love all you meet, in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen.
boxes and this is what you believe and nothing else. Generalities are not acceptable to you.
So no one can ever present your position. That is certainly one way of looking at things.
Not very helpful and rather combative.
Now truly I do not need a lecture from a school teacher as if you are responsible for me.
It is neither appropriate or respectful.
Now the device you refuse to accept is to summarise a position, and then say why you
ones own position is different. You literally hate this approach. But it is how one debates
and contrasts. You cannot contrast a point with an empty space.
Let me say it like this, imagine I like "german shepherd dogs" and you like "retriever dogs"
I would then contrast the two dogs to show why I prefer this over that.
It is just a device to show preference.
You take it as an insult, a slander, a slur, or whatever.
When will you ever learn how to think the best of others and they are not
out to get you or be evil or destroy you.
God bless you, my Christ our Lord and King fill you with His love and grace so
you can but love all you meet, in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen.
I will not hate and i will love.. Isreal will fill the world with fruits one day... it has allready begun... this is a works that saves us that leads to Jesus giving us eternal life...
I ve been looking at it all back to front..... we as believers have the abilitie to do greater things than Jesus did.
[h=1]John 14:12-14New English Translation (NET Bible)[/h] [SUP]12 [/SUP]I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
we have the ablitity to great things through Jesus... we can bring 1.7 million a nation in prayer <span id="en-NET-26672" class="text John-14-14">[video=youtube;g8I_tFlWUp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8I_tFlWUp4[/video]
I ve been looking at it all back to front..... we as believers have the abilitie to do greater things than Jesus did.
[h=1]John 14:12-14New English Translation (NET Bible)[/h] [SUP]12 [/SUP]I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. [SUP]14 [/SUP]If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
we have the ablitity to great things through Jesus... we can bring 1.7 million a nation in prayer <span id="en-NET-26672" class="text John-14-14">[video=youtube;g8I_tFlWUp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8I_tFlWUp4[/video]
searious rebuke is not something i like but for me its the only way to stop conflict.. If i am in the wrong for ignoring hate then i will say i better chuck the whole bible away..
The works of God is to be patient and always being a lamp and a light... there is no way i can do this if im engage in war of words..
I can see only one goal and that is to be a light and a lamp so that people may be saved by Jesus....if i dont do this i have no works in me and the truth is not in me....
The works of God is to be patient and always being a lamp and a light... there is no way i can do this if im engage in war of words..
I can see only one goal and that is to be a light and a lamp so that people may be saved by Jesus....if i dont do this i have no works in me and the truth is not in me....
Thats amazing. I heard the testimony of a man who was being baptised. He was on the edge of cliff in his car, about to put his foot down. He cried out to God, "If you are who say you are I need to know now" he heard nothing, he then turned the ignition, put the car in first gear. As he did that his phone wrang. He turned the engine off, answered his phone and it was an old college friend, one who they talked occasionally with but not had heard from for a while.
His friend is a Christian and he said it him, I know we haven't spoken for a while but I just felt I needed to call you"
What an amazing God we have.
Last month I had the privilege of baptising someone who I led to Christ (I say me but not me but he Holy Spirit).
This guy who is bipolar tried to take his life a few times. When it failed and he would up he was gutted he was still alive.
He believed in God and Jesus, only in Jesus as a good man. Over the weeks we walked and talked. Then he asked to meet me and talk.
Anyway during our conversation he was very emotional and asked "What is my disconnect? I just said Jesus, he is your connection to Jesus"
Then it hit him. I saw a broken man on his knees bearing his heart (and he didn't hold it back) to Jesus.
Part of his concourse was "Jesus I am f***up, I need you" I give all I have and am to you"
When we finished and he looked at me I saw a totally different man, his face changed, everything about him was different. I saw Jesus in him.
Now he says "I am so thankful that God protected me when I tried to take my life, he saved me for this time"
What an amazing God we have.
His friend is a Christian and he said it him, I know we haven't spoken for a while but I just felt I needed to call you"
What an amazing God we have.
Last month I had the privilege of baptising someone who I led to Christ (I say me but not me but he Holy Spirit).
This guy who is bipolar tried to take his life a few times. When it failed and he would up he was gutted he was still alive.
He believed in God and Jesus, only in Jesus as a good man. Over the weeks we walked and talked. Then he asked to meet me and talk.
Anyway during our conversation he was very emotional and asked "What is my disconnect? I just said Jesus, he is your connection to Jesus"
Then it hit him. I saw a broken man on his knees bearing his heart (and he didn't hold it back) to Jesus.
Part of his concourse was "Jesus I am f***up, I need you" I give all I have and am to you"
When we finished and he looked at me I saw a totally different man, his face changed, everything about him was different. I saw Jesus in him.
Now he says "I am so thankful that God protected me when I tried to take my life, he saved me for this time"
What an amazing God we have.