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eternally-gratefull

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I think that was tongue in cheek....


Plus I thought the only right answer is

JESUS!
jesus does not keep peopl from believing the gospel, pride does.
 
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this is true Stephan.....those who perceive they can be in the wilful rebellion of sin, and still be saved are the prideful.... this was the case with the Pharisees who believed their religion and flesh genetics could save them......be blessed
Exactly what you push and espouse.....you are one of the top two or three CAINOLOGISTS who push and espouse the false gospel of works and sinless perfectionism....cake taker for sure.....!
 
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Kinda ironic that only those who believe that faith is something man has naturally are the same ones who believe that salvation is the gift of God which comes without works.

?
No sense in even addressing the rest of your quote because....

a. This is false
b. This is a lying misrepresentation
c. No one I know espouses this and states the faith is something that man has naturally....

You workers for know no bounds of honesty and truthful statements......

The bible is clear....FAITH is a spiritual GIFT from God and has been dealt to men in measure.....the next time you want to make a blatantly false statement....try to have the facts pal....!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh I see, it was a two part question:

why some accept and why some dont?
thats the answer,

Pride keeps people from coming to Christ, lack of pride allows them to repent.
 

BillG

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My friend, this makes me cry. What pain is driving this none question, as the answer is
obvious. Sex is so personal and intimate, so much value, the source of what brought us
into being and also a deep need to be known, loved and cared for.

So often the adventure of the unknown seems better than the disappointment of what we
have, but like many dreams it is just a feeling. I have seen people go from affair, to marriage,
to affair, divorce, marriage 3 x and still they could not see the dream they chased.
My mum did that.

She wanted acceptance and love that was devoid from her childhood.

She got married 4 times amongst numerous affairs (I am not betraying mum here, she would admit it)

Truth is she had no idea what true love was, and we need to throw into the mix her Muslim upbringing.

It has changed for her now. Our relationship was fractious to say the least.

It started to change when God healed me of past hurts and hatred towards her, and bought me the process of forgiveness.
My wife showed true love towards her. I was gutted when I offered to pray for her in hospital after she tried to commit suicide.

I was with my wife, when I asked my mum if I could pray for her she told me where to stick my prayers with colourful language.
When my wife offered she said yes, your an angel sent by god (still allah to her)

My wife prayed in the name of Jesus.

I came before God and asked why she rejected my prayer.
He said "Its because you don't know how to love her and boy does it show, but your wife does, no do you want me to help you"

I said yes so God asked me to ask him how he felt about my mother?
This I did. I started a 6 p.m and finished at about 5 a.m the following day. Most of it I was in tears as God laid on my heart his love for my mum and how he cries for her and over her and at the same time he started the process in me I needed.

Our relationship is fully restored. About 16 years ago We birth said to each other that we love each other.
That was the first time in 33 years.

She is content now because she came to Jesus 15 years ago.
He is not the prophet she thought he but he is the Son of God who died for her because he loves her.

Now she knows what love is and she one of the most loving and accepting person I know.

Its love that sets us free, it's love that brings contentment.
The pure love of God.

If we walk in love as Jesus has asked us to Then people will see it, then they will want it and we lead them to the source.

Thank you Jesus that you love us all so much.
 

blue_ladybug

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Seriously Fran, it's tacky of you to flirt with Dcon and the other men on here. It's disrespectful to them and their wives. For some of them, you're old enough to be their mother or grandmother and that's just...gross. They are married, and as a reminder so are YOU. Any decent person would respect that fact, and cease their tacky, disrespectful and embarassing behavior of flirting with married men..


Oh and flirting with the women is just as bad because you know Stones, the one you have a crush on? He is not a guy, SHE is a GIRL. LOL
 
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Ariel82

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What a powerful testimony Bill. Praise God for all he has done in your life and thank you for sharing with us. It has been a blessing.
 
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Seriously Fran, it's tacky of you to flirt with Dcon and the other men on here. It's disrespectful to them and their wives. For some of them, you're old enough to be their mother or grandmother and that's just...gross. They are married, and as a reminder so are YOU. Any decent person would respect that fact, and cease their tacky, disrespectful and embarassing behavior of flirting with married men..


Oh and flirting with the women is just as bad because you know Stones, the one you have a crush on? He is not a guy, SHE is a GIRL. LOL
Mind your own business Blue.

You're just jealous.
 
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UnderGrace

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She likes the attention it gets. And that will be my last attention I give her.

Seriously Fran, it's tacky of you to flirt with Dcon and the other men on here. It's disrespectful to them and their wives. For some of them, you're old enough to be their mother or grandmother and that's just...gross. They are married, and as a reminder so are YOU. Any decent person would respect that fact, and cease their tacky, disrespectful and embarassing behavior of flirting with married men..


Oh and flirting with the women is just as bad because you know Stones, the one you have a crush on? He is not a guy, SHE is a GIRL. LOL
 
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Seriously Fran, it's tacky of you to flirt with Dcon and the other men on here. It's disrespectful to them and their wives. For some of them, you're old enough to be their mother or grandmother and that's just...gross. They are married, and as a reminder so are YOU. Any decent person would respect that fact, and cease their tacky, disrespectful and embarassing behavior of flirting with married men..


Oh and flirting with the women is just as bad because you know Stones, the one you have a crush on? He is not a guy, SHE is a GIRL. LOL
P.S.

Old enough to be their mother or grandmother???

What are YOU smoking?
 

blue_ladybug

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You're 70 years old. So yes, for some of them, you're old enough to be their mother. And I'm not jealous. I'm happily single, and know better than to flirt with married men.. :eek:

And they don't flirt back with you, so that should tell you they aren't interested.. LOL


P.S.

Old enough to be their mother or grandmother???

What are YOU smoking?
 
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Ariel82

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70-50=20

I had my son at 23....hmmm..

My mom is smoking some chicken for dinner.,, does that count?
 
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My mum did that.

She wanted acceptance and love that was devoid from her childhood.

She got married 4 times amongst numerous affairs (I am not betraying mum here, she would admit it)

Truth is she had no idea what true love was, and we need to throw into the mix her Muslim upbringing.

It has changed for her now. Our relationship was fractious to say the least.

It started to change when God healed me of past hurts and hatred towards her, and bought me the process of forgiveness.
My wife showed true love towards her. I was gutted when I offered to pray for her in hospital after she tried to commit suicide.

I was with my wife, when I asked my mum if I could pray for her she told me where to stick my prayers with colourful language.
When my wife offered she said yes, your an angel sent by god (still allah to her)

My wife prayed in the name of Jesus.

I came before God and asked why she rejected my prayer.
He said "Its because you don't know how to love her and boy does it show, but your wife does, no do you want me to help you"

I said yes so God asked me to ask him how he felt about my mother?
This I did. I started a 6 p.m and finished at about 5 a.m the following day. Most of it I was in tears as God laid on my heart his love for my mum and how he cries for her and over her and at the same time he started the process in me I needed.

Our relationship is fully restored. About 16 years ago We birth said to each other that we love each other.
That was the first time in 33 years.

She is content now because she came to Jesus 15 years ago.
He is not the prophet she thought he but he is the Son of God who died for her because he loves her.

Now she knows what love is and she one of the most loving and accepting person I know.

Its love that sets us free, it's love that brings contentment.
The pure love of God.

If we walk in love as Jesus has asked us to Then people will see it, then they will want it and we lead them to the source.

Thank you Jesus that you love us all so much.
To let love cover a multitude of sin and forgive is most definitely divine........it goes beyond human reasoning for sure.....!