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Alot of people have specualted what will happen to those who never heard the gospel.
I heard the comment on that and the Pope thingy, didnt like it but growing up i heard
him preach the true gospel for decades. To springboard a smear campaign on that stuff
against a legacy of great evangelism after hes an old a sick man to me is shameful and surprising
especially as always the scriptures used to infer Billy would agree with the vids creator
and intent.
IMO
I don't always agree with the creator's intent, but I do take notice when a video speaks for itself. It was this original video I saw about two years ago that got me interested in researching his life. He became famous overnight because of newspaper owners "puffing" up his reputation. He is good friends with Robert Schuler and the late Norman Vincent Peale, both of whom are 33rd degree Masons. there are also pictures scattered across the Internet of him shaking hands with the Masonic handshake. And that's only the beginning.........

John 15:18-19 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 

Blain

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Some will save with understanding, mercy, thus making a differance.
Some will save with rightousness, as if pulling from the fire, despising the flesh that clings.

I have always liked this scripture, for it speaks that some should be shall be called to salvation one way, and some the other.
All though, are called in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh!
What matters is that all are saved!
For now we know in part, but when the perfect comes, face to face!

God bless
pickles
Exactly! Like i said my way is not wrong and his way are not wrong because they are both charicters of christ
 
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Your profile says Christian, and by your statement on when you where saved....I would think that you are fully aware of the message of The Gospel, so why all the questions?......why are you coming across as someone who is ignorant of The Gospel of Jesus Christ??
 

Blain

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Your profile says Christian, and by your statement on when you where saved....I would think that you are fully aware of the message of The Gospel, so why all the questions?......why are you coming across as someone who is ignorant of The Gospel of Jesus Christ??
everyone grows at a different rate and we do not know the kind of problems and trials he has gone through, who are we to judge him for this? For all we know he will be greater in the kingdom of heaven than both of us put together and may even be that way now.
 
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Your profile says Christian, and by your statement on when you where saved....I would think that you are fully aware of the message of The Gospel, so why all the questions?......why are you coming across as someone who is ignorant of The Gospel of Jesus Christ??
I just asked is HUMILITY that message of Gospel?

What is wrong with my statement on question when am saved?Should i have to claim that am saved yesterday or will be saved tomprrow?
 
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I just asked is HUMILITY that message of Gospel?

What is wrong with my statement on question when am saved?Should i have to claim that am saved yesterday or will be saved tomprrow?
For he knew you as he was sewing you in the womb! ;)

'Depart from me, I never knew you' ........... *cough*

'And there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

'ohh ... how I wish it were already kindled!'

'For he shall suffer loss, BUT ..............'

'So there is neither Jew, nor Gentile'.

'I have not come to condemn the world, but to save it'.

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I was created, therefore I am created.
 
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For he knew you as he was sewing you in the womb! ;)

'Depart from me, I never knew you' ........... *cough*

'And there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth'.

'ohh ... how I wish it were already kindled!'

'For he shall suffer loss, BUT ..............'

'So there is neither Jew, nor Gentile'.

'I have not come to condemn the world, but to save it'.

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I was created, therefore I am created.
So,what is the answer?Give me it.
 
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So,what is the answer?Give me it.
Ask the question, 'what does SAVED imply?'

What is the motive of that term?

Saved from what? Why? And how?


Not 'when'.

The when is not important. The past has happened already. The future has not. So it is a moment that we all have.

So in this moment, there is only why, what, how, and the who is you.

The when is now.

Imagine that 'now', as in, always 'now' that you are saved.

Then what are you saved from? The future? No, because you are still to live it. The past? No, it has already happened and cannot be changed.

What is the goal? To be saved for yourself? Or to lay down your life for a brother?

To work for others when it is all really for oneself? Or to work for others because God works for us? Because Jesus dies for us?

The why, and the 'because' matter more than the when.
 
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zone

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Gods will is that ALL men come to repentance and faith!
Tommy:
have you been born again? are you a new man?

same thing i asked Skinski. should be simple.

can you just answer yes or no please?
 
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Ask the question, 'what does SAVED imply?'

What is the motive of that term?

Saved from what? Why? And how?


Not 'when'.

The when is not important. The past has happened already. The future has not. So it is a moment that we all have.

So in this moment, there is only why, what, how, and the who is you.

The when is now.

Imagine that 'now', as in, always 'now' that you are saved.

Then what are you saved from? The future? No, because you are still to live it. The past? No, it has already happened and cannot be changed.

What is the goal? To be saved for yourself? Or to lay down your life for a brother?

To work for others when it is all really for oneself? Or to work for others because God works for us? Because Jesus dies for us?

The why, and the 'because' matter more than the when.
Am still waithing for answer what is message of Gospel.Can u give me it?
I know what has saved holy fathers and how do they suffered,no need to tell me what is goal.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Am still waithing for answer what is message of Gospel.Can u give me it?
I know what has saved holy fathers and how do they suffered,no need to tell me what is goal.
the message of the gospel is this. Anyone who is dead due to trespasses and sin has been made alive in Christ. and has past from death (separation from god) to life (united with God) The term saved ,means what it implies. we are saved from eternal condemnation. or eternal separation from God. thats it. no need to try to add anything to it.
 
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the message of the gospel is this. Anyone who is dead due to trespasses and sin has been made alive in Christ. and has past from death (separation from god) to life (united with God) The term saved ,means what it implies. we are saved from eternal condemnation. or eternal separation from God. thats it. no need to try to add anything to it.
U mean that we r saved from eternal punishment in Hell?Does it implies to all Christians or just one part?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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U mean that we r saved from eternal punishment in Hell?Does it implies to all Christians or just one part?
It implies to all who are saved by the grace of God by recieving his gift of eternal life.

There are many who call themselves Christian who are not saved. they just think they are. It is those who trust in the one true gospel of Christ. be wary of false gospels.
 
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It implies to all who are saved by the grace of God by recieving his gift of eternal life.

There are many who call themselves Christian who are not saved. they just think they are. It is those who trust in the one true gospel of Christ. be wary of false gospels.
But when we get those gifts of eternal life?And what r those gifts?
 
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But when we get those gifts of eternal life?And what r those gifts?
gifts? it "eternal life" is a gift.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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It implies to all who are saved by the grace of God by recieving his gift of eternal life.

There are many who call themselves Christian who are not saved. they just think they are. It is those who trust in the one true gospel of Christ. be wary of false gospels.
So,u say that there r many who arent saved.Are u saved?
 

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Revelation 14

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.