Paul Thorn

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BeyondET

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Paul killed people. Should God just take away that guilt? Or should one learn and believe it has been forgiven.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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BeyondET said:
Indeed if a person thinks God broke their arm because He loves them so yea that is crazy thinking.

But if God doesn't take away the pain because someone shouldn't have been swimming with a barracuda and got bit, surely doesn't mean He doesn't love them, get my drift.
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absolutely


like if a fornicator gets aids


but repents and turns to Jesus

it doesnt mean God will heal his flesh (though he may)

but if he didnt that wouldnt mean God doesnt love this person who is sick
 
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BeyondET said:
Indeed if a person thinks God broke their arm because He loves them so yea that is crazy thinking.

But if God doesn't take away the pain because someone shouldn't have been swimming with a barracuda and got bit, surely doesn't mean He doesn't love them, get my drift.
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I'll accept that. Not all healing is sudden. Sometimes it takes a few minutes. Our dog bit me pretty good the other day. Not deliberately but it was quite a mess. It's healed now. Completely. Took four days. At my age, that's miraculous. Last time a dog bit me it took a week to heal.
 
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NoNameMcgee said:
absolutely


like if a fornicator gets aids


but repents and turns to Jesus

it doesnt mean God will heal his flesh (though he may)

but if he didnt that wouldnt mean God doesnt love this person who is sick
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OK Keep in mind. By Jesus stripes you were healed. Its a done deal....The question now is "Will you receive it?" Receive means to reach out and take it. So....Will you? Or will you decide that you're unworthy? Or or....Either you will take it or you will leave it.
 
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Denadii said:
It is speculation because of not reading the Word with the guidance of the Holy Spirit
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This sounds insidiously like you are saying that unless people view Scripture like you do they are without the Holy Spirit.

Secret knowledge type deal.
 
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BeyondET

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NoNameMcgee said:
absolutely


like if a fornicator gets aids


but repents and turns to Jesus

it doesnt mean God will heal his flesh (though he may)

but if he didnt that wouldnt mean God doesnt love this person who is sick
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I agree, we don't know the why and why not of things, it's for a purpose some are healed and some are not, no doubt somethings can be so tuff to grasp of the whys or why nots.

(I don't know why but I'm going to leave it up to God and roll with cards in front me the best I can).
 
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PennEd said:
This sounds insidiously like you are saying that unless people view Scripture like you do they are without the Holy Spirit.

Secret knowledge type deal.
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Are you saying that the Holy Spirit will tell me one thing and you something else about the verse? He'll tell me one truth and me another? No. I'm saying that too many Christians don't listen to the Holy Spirit. Otherwise they would share the Word not myth
 
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BeyondET

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Denadii said:
OK Keep in mind. By Jesus stripes you were healed. Its a done deal....The question now is "Will you receive it?" Receive means to reach out and take it. So....Will you? Or will you decide that you're unworthy? Or or....Either you will take it or you will leave it.
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He still had the holes in His hands and the Pearcing in His side even after He resurrected.
 
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BeyondET said:
He still had the holes in his hands and the Pearcing in His side even after he resurrected.
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He kept them so you can always see what He did for you. I'm very grateful for that. Being human....I forget.
 
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BeyondET

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Can anyone tell me why the wounds Jesus suffered weren't not gone?
 
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BeyondET

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Denadii said:
He kept them so you can always see what He did for you. I'm very grateful for that. Being human....I forget.
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on that same logic, what did Paul carry around with him
 
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Zi

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Really just ask for prayer.. Nothing to be ashamed of. You wouldn't feel so isolated or alone or unimportant if you'd try to make a real connection with people...

Setting up a post such as this that is impossible to answer is just a tell all that you need something.... perhaps you've denied it for so long that you may disagree.... either way... had you the real answer you would have went about this a whole other way
 
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Denadii said:
It is speculation because of not reading the Word with the guidance of the Holy Spirit
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Congratulations. Of 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, you alone, were blessed to be honored to read that passage with the guidance of Holy Spirit. LOL
 
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Denadii said:
Are you saying that the Holy Spirit will tell me one thing and you something else about the verse? He'll tell me one truth and me another? No. I'm saying that too many Christians don't listen to the Holy Spirit. Otherwise they would share the Word not myth
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Refer to post 25.

And then read Willie's post a couple more times.
 
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bluto

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Denadii said:
What was it? (Yes I do know)
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I know as well from the context and comparing scripture with scripture. I will wait and see what you come up with.

In God the Son
bluto
 
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bluto said:
I know as well from the context and comparing scripture with scripture. I will wait and see what you come up with.

In God the Son
bluto
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Lucky me Thanks
 
Denadii

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Willie-T said:
Congratulations. Of 8,000,000,000 people on the planet, you alone, were blessed to be honored to read that passage with the guidance of Holy Spirit. LOL
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Right!!!!! Like I said that.
 
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Denadii said:
What was it? (Yes I do know)
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No, you don't know.

And God designed it that way, to leave it a mystery so all could take comfort in his grace being sufficient in their particular "thorn" experience.
 
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