People will try to justify why they continue to sin
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well i never knew who creflo dollar was untl today,, but he seems a nice chap to me,, but obviously hes not your cup of tea but that does not mean i have to not like him because you do not or anybody else,, and if you have a problem with his past then i do not want to know,, but thanks for your comment,, it has been noted.
Self justification is an error doctrinewe must believe all of God's word seek consecration through the holy spirit gift Holding steadfast in the Gospel and allow not yourselves to be waivered earlier in another threwlad i tried understanding these fellow brethren but truth is salvation can be lost if one allows themselves to be beguiled in justifying themselves but we must be aware of truth being furnished unto all good works they are who we are and give us our identity they are God's works not our own because we have trusted and believed him therefore we act upon that faith wich redeems because of Christ therefore we must love like He did
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a wonderful specimen of law keeping.
a wonderful specimen of law keeping.
I think you have already been told that this preacher has still continued to preach Gods word and like i had all ready told this thread and others who have a problem with him not to remind me of anything bad he may of done, as i have only known the guy for 2 days.. (woujld you like me to dislike him because of this ?
I guess you have searched the internet to dig up his past to make him look bad, and by the looks of things me too,, well done cross note, lets look at the picture you arrive at the gate in heaven you say to the farther forgive me farther for i have sinned ? what do you think the farther is going to say to you if you carry on like this ? ...
what you have displayed here is a classical example of people who look to make other people look bad to justify there own bad behavior.
And im only telling you this for your own good,, now please tell me why you have posted this ?.
I guess you have searched the internet to dig up his past to make him look bad, and by the looks of things me too,, well done cross note, lets look at the picture you arrive at the gate in heaven you say to the farther forgive me farther for i have sinned ? what do you think the farther is going to say to you if you carry on like this ? ...
what you have displayed here is a classical example of people who look to make other people look bad to justify there own bad behavior.
And im only telling you this for your own good,, now please tell me why you have posted this ?.
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Creflo Dollar preachers a false gospel of prosperity.
His ministry is based on "health/wealth" doctrines.
Celebrities are drawn to it because he claims that poor people are poor because they don't have faith, and rich people are rich because God accepts their faith.
Don't get caught up in it.
Finding a drop of truth in a glass of poison doesn't make it safe to drink.
His ministry is based on "health/wealth" doctrines.
Celebrities are drawn to it because he claims that poor people are poor because they don't have faith, and rich people are rich because God accepts their faith.
Don't get caught up in it.
Finding a drop of truth in a glass of poison doesn't make it safe to drink.
No Christian is trying to justify continuing in sin. Christians don't want to sin. As I've heard other preachers say, "If there was a light switch and if you turned it on it would make it so that you wouldn't sin ever again, would you click it?" A majority, if not all, Christians would turn it on. To sin is to go against the reborn nature of children of God. We are born-again. Once dead, but now made spiritually alive. We are the righteousness of God, in Jesus Christ. If you commit a sin, it doesn't take away that righteousness. It is imputed to you, as your sins were imputed to Christ.
Someone who continues in sin is not without consequence. No, it is not loss of salvation. Yes, there are people who take life times to get over a sin, but the getting over of sin is not what saves them. It is Christ and Christ alone, his finished work on the cross. It is without any added works. He is the Author and Finisher of our faith. The consequence of continuing is sin, is that sin has natural consequences. If you steal, and you're caught, there is a penalty to be paid. Yes, Jesus' blood cleanses(forgivness), but that doesn't mean that there isn't a penalty for your sin in the here and now. Look to the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He went to Paradise with Jesus, and the thief believed on Jesus. Yet, what? He still died on that cross! Why? There was a penalty for his thievery, a natural consequence. God doesn't need to punish your sins, they do well enough on their own.
A bonus: Why do you think the Holy Spirit is grieved, when you sin? It is not because you've made an offense against Him. It is because He cares for your well-being and He knows that sin has its consequences, on an individual basis and a relational basis towards others (Not towards God. Sin doesn't separate us from God, because our sins are washed by the blood of Christ and He remembers our sins no more).
Someone who continues in sin is not without consequence. No, it is not loss of salvation. Yes, there are people who take life times to get over a sin, but the getting over of sin is not what saves them. It is Christ and Christ alone, his finished work on the cross. It is without any added works. He is the Author and Finisher of our faith. The consequence of continuing is sin, is that sin has natural consequences. If you steal, and you're caught, there is a penalty to be paid. Yes, Jesus' blood cleanses(forgivness), but that doesn't mean that there isn't a penalty for your sin in the here and now. Look to the thief on the cross next to Jesus. He went to Paradise with Jesus, and the thief believed on Jesus. Yet, what? He still died on that cross! Why? There was a penalty for his thievery, a natural consequence. God doesn't need to punish your sins, they do well enough on their own.
A bonus: Why do you think the Holy Spirit is grieved, when you sin? It is not because you've made an offense against Him. It is because He cares for your well-being and He knows that sin has its consequences, on an individual basis and a relational basis towards others (Not towards God. Sin doesn't separate us from God, because our sins are washed by the blood of Christ and He remembers our sins no more).
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We are all sinners, fallen sinners, but if we have confessed with our mouths, and believe in our hearts that Christ is what he claims to be, then we are blood bought, sealed with the living Spirit of God (you know, God with us), then we are free from the trap of sin, but it does not mean we do not or can not sin, for we are still in this world of sin and this world is lost also, but it will be redeemed one day as we will be redeemed through Christ Jesus. Do we have to always worry about sinning, yes I do think so but even if we are fully devoted followers of Christ we will stumble and fall because that is our nature, we can't get away from that, we bury Adam, and repent of our sins, and while no one is watching dig him back up again, and clean him up and dress him nicely and we're back into tough times again because we don't remember. The only one that can live in this world and not sin is Christ, he proved it already.
Wonderful mericiful Savior
Precious redeemer and friend
Who would have thought that a lamb could
Rescue the souls of men, Oh You rescue the souls of men
Counselor, comforter, keeper
Spirit we long to embrace
You offer hope when our hearts have
Hopelessly lost the way, Oh we hopelessly lost the way
You are the One that we praise
You are the One we adore
You give the healing and grace our
Hearts always hunger for, Oh our hearts always hunger for
Almighty infinite father
Faithfully loving Your own
Herein our weakness You find us
Falling before Your throne, Oh we're falling before Your throne
You are the One that we praise
You are the One we adore
You give the healing and grace our
Hearts always hunger for, Oh our hearts always hunger for
Wonderful mericiful Savior
Precious redeemer and friend
Who would have thought that a lamb could
Rescue the souls of men, Oh You rescue the souls of men
Counselor, comforter, keeper
Spirit we long to embrace
You offer hope when our hearts have
Hopelessly lost the way, Oh we hopelessly lost the way
You are the One that we praise
You are the One we adore
You give the healing and grace our
Hearts always hunger for, Oh our hearts always hunger for
Almighty infinite father
Faithfully loving Your own
Herein our weakness You find us
Falling before Your throne, Oh we're falling before Your throne
You are the One that we praise
You are the One we adore
You give the healing and grace our
Hearts always hunger for, Oh our hearts always hunger for
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. should you not refrase to i am not God and i can not speak for every christian who claims to be a christian.
what do you call slander then from people who claim to be christians.
MATHEW 5 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16"Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
Like i just aswered some people switch it on and keep the light in show but others switch the light on and hide it under a basket.
thats is like saying your name is satan it is ok to carry on sinning.
Not if you come to the lord the right way or you have been show the the right way of the lord the right way you do not.
the cross is before Jesus is before and after.
Jesus gives you a choice he doesn't force you to stay in the faith,, that is your choice to stay and finished it until the end.
people will always use the thief on the cross to carry on sinning,, they say well hang on the thief on the cross only repented just befor his last breath so i can carry sinning for the rest of my life,,,, please what does the bible say it says wake up sleeper and rise from the dead. stop using the thief on the cross as a doctrine to say it is OK to sin.
like i told you above you can not use the thief on the cross to justify sinning.
oh ok so that makes it ok to sin because the holy spirit gets sad and he still loves you ok i see your point,, this statement borders on the same statement a farther would say to his son when he has just beat the living daylight out of him,, the farther would i only do it because i love you doe wake up man,
what do you call slander then from people who claim to be christians.
MATHEW 5 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16"Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
Like i just aswered some people switch it on and keep the light in show but others switch the light on and hide it under a basket.
thats is like saying your name is satan it is ok to carry on sinning.
Not if you come to the lord the right way or you have been show the the right way of the lord the right way you do not.
the cross is before Jesus is before and after.
Jesus gives you a choice he doesn't force you to stay in the faith,, that is your choice to stay and finished it until the end.
people will always use the thief on the cross to carry on sinning,, they say well hang on the thief on the cross only repented just befor his last breath so i can carry sinning for the rest of my life,,,, please what does the bible say it says wake up sleeper and rise from the dead. stop using the thief on the cross as a doctrine to say it is OK to sin.
like i told you above you can not use the thief on the cross to justify sinning.
oh ok so that makes it ok to sin because the holy spirit gets sad and he still loves you ok i see your point,, this statement borders on the same statement a farther would say to his son when he has just beat the living daylight out of him,, the farther would i only do it because i love you doe wake up man,
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Paul did say that everything he should not do, he did, and everything he should do, he did not. This is not an excuse, but I admire him for having the courage to say that even he, fell short, as we all do. We are flesh, and as long as we are flesh, we will sin. In that, however, we must remember that Christ said that we are to forgive a brother up to 490 times a day. We are to attempt to achieve perfection, but while in the flesh, it seems impossible at times, but try we must.
Many believe that the Apostle Paul did away with the Ten Commandments, but is that what the Bible teaches? What did the Apostle Paul actually teach about them?
What Paul actually taught about the ten commandments are shown here in green.
There is only one only scripture that uses the “nailed it to the cross” expression (AV/NKJ), it is Colossians 2:13-14, in which Paul states, “And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross“. Were the ten commandments the “requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us”? Let us examine the scriptures to see.
Commandment 1: Paul said, “God, who made the world and everything in it…they should seek the Lord” (Acts 17:24,27). Paul also said, “I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law” (Acts 24:14). “But then indeed, when you did not know God, you served those things which by nature are not God” (Galatians 4:8). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God” (I Thessalonians 1:9). “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Commandment 2: “we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols” (Acts 15:20). “Now while Paul waited for them in Athens, his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols…Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said…’God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshipped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything‘” (Acts 17:16,22,24-25). “Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man–and birds and four footed animals and creeping things” (Romans 1:22-23). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…an idolater” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… idolators…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “And do not become idolaters as were some of them…Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry” (I Corinthians 10:7,14). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…idolatry” (Galatians 5:19,20). “For this you know that no…idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “you turned to God from idols” (I Thessalonians 1:9).
Commandment 3: “they are all under sin…Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness” (Romans 3:9,14). “Let all…evil speaking be put away from you” (Ephesians 4:31). “But now you yourselves are to put off all Thessalonians e:…blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth” (Colossians 3:8). “they may learn not to blaspheme” (I Timothy 1:20). But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…blasphemers” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 4: “Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures…And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks” (Acts 17:2;18:4 see also 13:14,27,42,44). “let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need” (Ephesians 4:28) and “For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: ‘If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat‘” (II Thessalonians 3:10); (recall that the requirement to work is also part of the Sabbath command, thus even that portion of the commandment is repeated in the New Testament.) “And to whom did He swear they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?” (Hebrews 3:18). “For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: ‘And God rested on the seventh day from all His works’” (Hebrews 4:4). “There remains therefore a rest (literally sabbatismos, ‘Sabbath rest’) for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His” (Hebrews 4:9-10).
Commandment 5: “being filled with all unrighteousness…disobediant to parents” (Romans 1:29,30). “Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. ‘Honor your father and mother’, which is the first commandment with promise: that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth” (Ephesians 6:1-3). “the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience” (Colossians 3:6). “Children obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord” (Colossians 3:20). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…disobediant to parents” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 6: “being filled with all unrighteousness…murder” (Romans 1:29). “You shall not murder” (Romans 13:9). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…murders” (Galatians 5:19,21). “the lawless and insubordinate…murders…manslayers” (I Timothy 1:9).
Commandment 7: “being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality” (Romans 1:29). “So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress” (Romans 7:3). “You shall not commit adultery” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… adulterers, nor homosexuals…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body” (I Corinthians 6:18). “Nor let us commit sexual immorality as some of them did” (I Corinthians 10:8). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…adultery, fornication” (Galatians 5:19). “For this you know that no fornicator…has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “the lawless and insubordinate…fornicators…sodomites” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “fornicators and adulterers God will judge” (Hebrews 13:4).
Commandment 8: “You shall not steal” (Romans 13:9). “nor thieves…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “I have been…in perils of robbers” (II Corinthians 11:25-26). “Let him who stole, steal no longer” (Ephesians 4:28).
Commandment 9: “You shall not bear false witness” (Romans 13:9). ‘I do not lie” (Galatians 1:19). “Therefore, putting away lying, ‘Let each of you speak truth with his neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). “Do not lie to one another” (Colossians 3:9). “the lawless and insubordinate…liars…perjurers” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy” (I Timothy 4:1-2). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…slanderers” (II Timothy 3:1,3). “God, who cannot lie” (Ti 1:2). “it is impossible for God to lie” (Hebrews 6:18).
Commandment 10: “being filled with all unrighteousness…covetousness” (Romans 1:29).”You shall not covet” (Romans 7:7). “You shall not covet” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…covetous” (I Corinthians 5:11). “nor covetous…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted” (I Corinthians 10:6). “you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Galatians 5:16). “For this you know that no fornicator…nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness” (I Thessalonians 2:5). “Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have” (Hebrews 13:5).
Notice that Paul clearly warns about not keeping each of the ten commandments.
Paul also wrote “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Hebrews 10:26). He also warned that those who break various of the ten commandments will not inherit the kingdom of God (Ephesians 5:4-5) and then said, “Let no man deceive you with empty words, for because of Thessalonians e things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them” (Ephesians 5:6-7).
Some have been confused about some of Paul’s writings, but as Peter warned, “Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of Thessalonians e things in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the scriptures” (II Pet 3:15-16). Perhaps the most confusing to some is, “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle the wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity” (Ephesians 2:14-16).
It is clear that Paul could not be talking about the ten commandments as he mentions parts of at least eight of them as still being in existence in the same book (see above, the other two are alluded to as well, Ephesians 5:31–anger, which is like murder according to Jesus; plus the comment about being a prisoner of the Lord also would show the first commandment, Ephesians 4:1)
What Paul actually taught about the ten commandments are shown here in green.
There is only one only scripture that uses the “nailed it to the cross” expression (AV/NKJ), it is Colossians 2:13-14, in which Paul states, “And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross“. Were the ten commandments the “requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us”? Let us examine the scriptures to see.
Commandment 1: Paul said, “God, who made the world and everything in it…they should seek the Lord” (Acts 17:24,27). Paul also said, “I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law” (Acts 24:14). “But then indeed, when you did not know God, you served those things which by nature are not God” (Galatians 4:8). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God” (I Thessalonians 1:9). “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Commandment 2: “we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols” (Acts 15:20). “Now while Paul waited for them in Athens, his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols…Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said…’God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshipped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything‘” (Acts 17:16,22,24-25). “Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man–and birds and four footed animals and creeping things” (Romans 1:22-23). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…an idolater” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… idolators…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “And do not become idolaters as were some of them…Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry” (I Corinthians 10:7,14). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…idolatry” (Galatians 5:19,20). “For this you know that no…idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “you turned to God from idols” (I Thessalonians 1:9).
Commandment 3: “they are all under sin…Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness” (Romans 3:9,14). “Let all…evil speaking be put away from you” (Ephesians 4:31). “But now you yourselves are to put off all Thessalonians e:…blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth” (Colossians 3:8). “they may learn not to blaspheme” (I Timothy 1:20). But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…blasphemers” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 4: “Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures…And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks” (Acts 17:2;18:4 see also 13:14,27,42,44). “let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need” (Ephesians 4:28) and “For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: ‘If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat‘” (II Thessalonians 3:10); (recall that the requirement to work is also part of the Sabbath command, thus even that portion of the commandment is repeated in the New Testament.) “And to whom did He swear they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?” (Hebrews 3:18). “For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: ‘And God rested on the seventh day from all His works’” (Hebrews 4:4). “There remains therefore a rest (literally sabbatismos, ‘Sabbath rest’) for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His” (Hebrews 4:9-10).
Commandment 5: “being filled with all unrighteousness…disobediant to parents” (Romans 1:29,30). “Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. ‘Honor your father and mother’, which is the first commandment with promise: that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth” (Ephesians 6:1-3). “the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience” (Colossians 3:6). “Children obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord” (Colossians 3:20). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…disobediant to parents” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 6: “being filled with all unrighteousness…murder” (Romans 1:29). “You shall not murder” (Romans 13:9). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…murders” (Galatians 5:19,21). “the lawless and insubordinate…murders…manslayers” (I Timothy 1:9).
Commandment 7: “being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality” (Romans 1:29). “So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress” (Romans 7:3). “You shall not commit adultery” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… adulterers, nor homosexuals…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body” (I Corinthians 6:18). “Nor let us commit sexual immorality as some of them did” (I Corinthians 10:8). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…adultery, fornication” (Galatians 5:19). “For this you know that no fornicator…has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “the lawless and insubordinate…fornicators…sodomites” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “fornicators and adulterers God will judge” (Hebrews 13:4).
Commandment 8: “You shall not steal” (Romans 13:9). “nor thieves…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “I have been…in perils of robbers” (II Corinthians 11:25-26). “Let him who stole, steal no longer” (Ephesians 4:28).
Commandment 9: “You shall not bear false witness” (Romans 13:9). ‘I do not lie” (Galatians 1:19). “Therefore, putting away lying, ‘Let each of you speak truth with his neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). “Do not lie to one another” (Colossians 3:9). “the lawless and insubordinate…liars…perjurers” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy” (I Timothy 4:1-2). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…slanderers” (II Timothy 3:1,3). “God, who cannot lie” (Ti 1:2). “it is impossible for God to lie” (Hebrews 6:18).
Commandment 10: “being filled with all unrighteousness…covetousness” (Romans 1:29).”You shall not covet” (Romans 7:7). “You shall not covet” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…covetous” (I Corinthians 5:11). “nor covetous…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted” (I Corinthians 10:6). “you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Galatians 5:16). “For this you know that no fornicator…nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness” (I Thessalonians 2:5). “Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have” (Hebrews 13:5).
Notice that Paul clearly warns about not keeping each of the ten commandments.
Paul also wrote “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Hebrews 10:26). He also warned that those who break various of the ten commandments will not inherit the kingdom of God (Ephesians 5:4-5) and then said, “Let no man deceive you with empty words, for because of Thessalonians e things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them” (Ephesians 5:6-7).
Some have been confused about some of Paul’s writings, but as Peter warned, “Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of Thessalonians e things in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the scriptures” (II Pet 3:15-16). Perhaps the most confusing to some is, “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle the wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity” (Ephesians 2:14-16).
It is clear that Paul could not be talking about the ten commandments as he mentions parts of at least eight of them as still being in existence in the same book (see above, the other two are alluded to as well, Ephesians 5:31–anger, which is like murder according to Jesus; plus the comment about being a prisoner of the Lord also would show the first commandment, Ephesians 4:1)
Just a note about "born again". When Nicodemus asked Christ how one can partake of the kingdom of Heaven, Christ told him : You must be twice born: born from above, and born from woman. If one did not come from Heaven to begin with, one cannot return. Which is why that that which is flesh, is flesh, that which is spirit, is spirit and flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. In so many words therefore, if you did not come from there originally, you cannot go back. You have to have been in spirit initially and then that into flesh, in order to return, so that the spirit can once again inhabit the spiritual body you left behind when being born into a flesh one.
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i Believe people are wrong when they claim that paul teaches against the commandments,, if you take time to read this above it will show he does not,, its another twisted doctrin from athiests who want you to carry on in sin and satanists who want you to fall with them..
i Believe people are wrong when they claim that paul teaches against the commandments,, if you take time to read this above it will show he does not,, its another twisted doctrin from athiests who want you to carry on in sin and satanists who want you to fall with them..
Ah, I have found that with each and every "new" edition of the bible, it gets more and more corrupt, for there is more room for people to tinker with what is being said. I use the 1611 King James version , which in itself is full of translational errors, but using the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, one can readily identify these errors. Unless new concordances arrive at the time of the new editions of the bible, it leaves the scholar in the dark.