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miktre

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On August 3, 1979 Howard Pitman, a baptist minister for 35 years, died while on the operating table...
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivgDck1l88[/video]
 

shawntc

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I actually watched the whole thing... interesting. The information contains a lot of revelation information. It seems common sense. I'd like to get input from others who are better at discernment.
 
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wow this looks interesting. I'll watch the rest tmrw for sure.
 

gotime

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Don't trust it, 7 minutes in and there a Biblical errors already.
 
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cfultz3

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Don't trust it, 7 minutes in and there a Biblical errors already.
Would it not make your statement true if you would have pointed out that error. All you did were to place doubt in people's minds about your sincerity.
 

cronjecj

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eye has not seen nor heard............ the
things which God hath prepared for them
that love him.
 

cronjecj

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that vid is awfully long.
and i do not have to watch it.

sri miky but i hope you understand.
 
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psychomom

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Firstly, let me say I am no theologian. Just a child of God who has learned a little about Him.

And I know there are many stories of people who have died and received what I can only call extra-Biblical revelation. That's my reason #1 for doubting this.
Secondly, Paul described his own journey in 2 Corinthians 12, and says he heard "inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak." He was even given a thorn in the flesh that he may not grow too proud from the experience. (I realize you may say that was just Paul's problem with pride...)

And regarding Hezekiah--God honored his request for His name's sake and for the sake of the promise He made to David. But as it turned out, it would have been better, perhaps, had Hezekiah not made that request, as he made a much better beginning than he did an end. For me, that's an object lesson!

I do not wish to cause strife or dissention within the body of Christ, only to say what I believe to be Truth in matters like these. I guess I am a "doubting Thomas" sort of person in these things. I don't deny there is a lot to say in regard to how we should live our lives there.

I also don't know what to do with the verse that's misquoted at the beginning of the vid...it is appointed ONCE to die, and then the judgement. (paraphrase of Hebrews 9:27)

To me the whole thing sounds like a mixture of truth and lies. Sorry, Miktre. :(


 
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SantoSubito

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Interesting, this is what we Catholics would call "private revelation" (Like Fatima for example, if your interested look up the miracles).
 
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miktre

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I also don't know what to do with the verse that's misquoted at the beginning of the vid...it is appointed ONCE to die, and then the judgement. (paraphrase of Hebrews 9:27)

To me the whole thing sounds like a mixture of truth and lies. Sorry, Miktre. :(
Sorry psycho mother, I believe this mans testimony and reject your charge against him. Heres the evidence:

Howard Pittman:" Let me remind you the Bible says its appointed once unto man to die and, without warning, my appointment came"

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

He tells you how he went before the throne for judgement and then pleaded his case.
 
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miktre

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that vid is awfully long.
and i do not have to watch it.

sri miky but i hope you understand.
Also you miss quoted, never says you "have" to watch. It does say you "better" watch if you are Christian, meaning you'll be the better for it but your not legally bound and "have" to watch it.

Wow thanks for taking the time to let everyone one know that you are not going to do so.
Again, it's your loss:(
 
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squidget

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this video if people have watched it honestly will realize the truth it has nothing to do with the ascension to heaven by any one but the reality that modern christianity is an orginsed state of nirvana that if people choose to follow it they will ultimately be led away from GOD and follow the wide path to destruction.
this is the message of the gospel and it was not accepted when JESUS first lived it by the religious of the day why would anyone expect to think the religious of this day would accept it.
 

cronjecj

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i think his false.

God does not change His mind
nor can He lie.
REF: Numbers 23:19 (KJV)
REF: Jeremiah 26:13 (KJV)
 
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miktre

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eye has not seen nor heard............ the
things which God hath prepared for them
that love him.

Your verse is not relevant to the point you are making, else Paul, being caught up in the third heaven, would of testified against himself:
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.


You must go back and realize that Paul was quoting from Isaiah 64, also and you can see God doesn't say that He can't or won't show Paul the third heaven:
Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
 

cronjecj

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ye which is not lawful for man to utter.

anyone claiming details of afterlife
experiences is a liar. heaven, hell
doesn't matter.

in my personal opinion they looking
for attention to show how great and
special they are where in fact we are
dead bones walking around.

by God's grace we are saved,
nothing
of ourselves.

only God is good, no one else.
 
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miktre

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ye which is not lawful for man to utter.

anyone claiming details of afterlife
experiences is a liar. heaven, hell
doesn't matter.

in my personal opinion they looking
for attention to show how great and
special they are where in fact we are
dead bones walking around.

by God's grace we are saved,
nothing
of ourselves.

only God is good, no one else.
Thank You for your opinion
 

cronjecj

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Sep 25, 2011
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you are welcome

 
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miktre

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No Mickey mouse please, He taught kids to do witchcraft as a wizard in Fantasia and Disney supports the homosexual lifestyle with "Gay Day".
2Ch_33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.


I take back my thank you because you basically put Satan's stamp(mickey mouse) on the points you made.
 
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Laodicea

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In the video he states that we are immortal, that is not what the Bible says.
1 Timothy 6:16
(16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

We do not put on immortality until Jesus returns.
1 Corinthians 15:52-54

(52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
(53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
(54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

He also states in the video that man was given a soul again this is incorrect.
Genesis 2:7
(7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

This text referring to the creation of man says that man became a soul it does not say man was given a soul.

Satan told a lie to Eve concerning death.
Genesis 3:4
(4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

This man in the video is using the same lie.