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Matthew 19:8
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
1 Corinthians 3:2
I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready.
1 Peter 3:20
to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
1 Corinthians 3:2
I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready.
1 Peter 3:20
to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
John 4:16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
17 “I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
John 4:16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
17 “I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
Yes. Women in general had little protection or means of support outside marriage, and the social situation with many widows due to continual warfare entailed a numerical imbalance, entailing that polygamy was not sinful, not is there any record of anyone being accused of sin in relation to polygamy.
Obviously with the situation of almost permanent warfare easing after the return from Babylon circa 500BC, and with the expulsion of the foreign women, the need for and social acceptability of polygamy in Israel rapidly decreased.
The only man who has no right to be an elder in the church, is the man with more than one wife.
Obviously with the situation of almost permanent warfare easing after the return from Babylon circa 500BC, and with the expulsion of the foreign women, the need for and social acceptability of polygamy in Israel rapidly decreased.
The only man who has no right to be an elder in the church, is the man with more than one wife.
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I believe polygamy is a sin. 4enlightment provides some good scriptural quotes proofs for this above, particularly Matthew 6:24.
God can forgive you of your sins, remember that. Consider though why polygamy is sinful. Remember God did not make sin, sin is merely the acting contrary to God. God does not list sins arbitrarily, but He tells us what they are because He is aware how different sins cause people suffering.
For example, all the human heroes of the Bible are guilty of sin, this is fact. The Bible tells you the Truth, and the Truth is not always pleasant, but it has to be told. David is a good example, especially when he sinfully woos Uriah's wife thus forcing the Prophet Nathan to pronounce a prophecy from God saying that the sword will not depart from his house, as well as many other things that happen after David does this that threaten to ruin his kingdom and cause David great sorrow. Solomon is also an excellent example of how polygamy is unwise as his many wives caused a return of idolatry in Israel, thus angering God and setting in motion the division of Israel and Judah after Solomon's death, and thus the eventual conquest by Assyria and Babylon. Jacob (whom God renamed Israel) married both Rachel and Leah (though in fairness this is due to a trick of their father Laban) also displays how polygamy hurt Rachel and made her envy Leah her sister and put enmity between the two, and also set in motion the future envy between Joseph and his brothers Abraham sleeping with Hagar show how this hurt Sarah (even though she herself suggested the act) and showed the great harm it did to Hagar and Ishmael. So the examples go on and on in the Bible of the hurts of polygamy. Even in today's World you can see this.
Let us also consider the Biblical origins of marriage. In the beginning Adam and Eve were made one for the other and were happy. God intended for One Man to be with One Woman. However as we know the Bible story well, we know that Man chooses time and time again to forsake these things (thus sin.) The same even is true for their immediate progeny, Seth and Cain.
Who is that first polygamist? The Bible actually have an answer. If you look at Genesis Chapter 4, after Cain slays Abel he is cursed to wander the Earth and goes East of Eden to the Land of Nod. The first polygamist comes from the line of Cain. The first polygamist is La'-mech son of Me-thu'-sa-el, son of Me-hu'-ja-el, son of I'rad, son of E'-noch, son of Cain. (Not to be confused with La'-mech father of Noah of Seth's line.)
La'-mech, of the House of Cain, is also the second murderer named in the Bible. Since his story is short here is his story as told in the King James Version of the Bible:
Genesis 4:19 La'-mech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was A'-dah, and the name of the other Zil'-lah.
20: And A'-Dah bare Ja'-bal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
21: And his brother's name was Ju'-bal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
22: And Zil'-lah, she also bare Tu'-bal-cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tu'-bal-cain was Na'-a-mah.
23: And La'-mech said unto his wives, A'-dah and Zil'-lah, Hear my voice; ye wives of La'-mech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24: If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly La'-mech seventy and sevenfold.
(Just some food for thought. Heh, complicated things like this remind me why I am glad to be single.)
God can forgive you of your sins, remember that. Consider though why polygamy is sinful. Remember God did not make sin, sin is merely the acting contrary to God. God does not list sins arbitrarily, but He tells us what they are because He is aware how different sins cause people suffering.
For example, all the human heroes of the Bible are guilty of sin, this is fact. The Bible tells you the Truth, and the Truth is not always pleasant, but it has to be told. David is a good example, especially when he sinfully woos Uriah's wife thus forcing the Prophet Nathan to pronounce a prophecy from God saying that the sword will not depart from his house, as well as many other things that happen after David does this that threaten to ruin his kingdom and cause David great sorrow. Solomon is also an excellent example of how polygamy is unwise as his many wives caused a return of idolatry in Israel, thus angering God and setting in motion the division of Israel and Judah after Solomon's death, and thus the eventual conquest by Assyria and Babylon. Jacob (whom God renamed Israel) married both Rachel and Leah (though in fairness this is due to a trick of their father Laban) also displays how polygamy hurt Rachel and made her envy Leah her sister and put enmity between the two, and also set in motion the future envy between Joseph and his brothers Abraham sleeping with Hagar show how this hurt Sarah (even though she herself suggested the act) and showed the great harm it did to Hagar and Ishmael. So the examples go on and on in the Bible of the hurts of polygamy. Even in today's World you can see this.
Let us also consider the Biblical origins of marriage. In the beginning Adam and Eve were made one for the other and were happy. God intended for One Man to be with One Woman. However as we know the Bible story well, we know that Man chooses time and time again to forsake these things (thus sin.) The same even is true for their immediate progeny, Seth and Cain.
Who is that first polygamist? The Bible actually have an answer. If you look at Genesis Chapter 4, after Cain slays Abel he is cursed to wander the Earth and goes East of Eden to the Land of Nod. The first polygamist comes from the line of Cain. The first polygamist is La'-mech son of Me-thu'-sa-el, son of Me-hu'-ja-el, son of I'rad, son of E'-noch, son of Cain. (Not to be confused with La'-mech father of Noah of Seth's line.)
La'-mech, of the House of Cain, is also the second murderer named in the Bible. Since his story is short here is his story as told in the King James Version of the Bible:
Genesis 4:19 La'-mech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was A'-dah, and the name of the other Zil'-lah.
20: And A'-Dah bare Ja'-bal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
21: And his brother's name was Ju'-bal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
22: And Zil'-lah, she also bare Tu'-bal-cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tu'-bal-cain was Na'-a-mah.
23: And La'-mech said unto his wives, A'-dah and Zil'-lah, Hear my voice; ye wives of La'-mech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24: If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly La'-mech seventy and sevenfold.
(Just some food for thought. Heh, complicated things like this remind me why I am glad to be single.)
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Matt 6;4 does not appear to be relevant as a married man does not serve two Masters.
One can certainly say the the optimum is one man one wife, but we don't live in an ideal world, and circumstances may arise whereby polygamy becames inevitable, particularly where there is a numerical superiority of women as in ancient Israel. For example, there is a specific biblical decree that the Israelites were allowed to marry the female captives.
There are of course massive issues with polygamy for the sake of it, such as the Mormons used to practice. That was evil, and combined with much unjust suffering and adultery too. Mormon polygamy was definitely sinful, from the outset.
One can certainly say the the optimum is one man one wife, but we don't live in an ideal world, and circumstances may arise whereby polygamy becames inevitable, particularly where there is a numerical superiority of women as in ancient Israel. For example, there is a specific biblical decree that the Israelites were allowed to marry the female captives.
There are of course massive issues with polygamy for the sake of it, such as the Mormons used to practice. That was evil, and combined with much unjust suffering and adultery too. Mormon polygamy was definitely sinful, from the outset.
God is saying that it is impossible to serve two, period. Try serving two women, eventually you will start showing more attention to the other. David could of have as many wives and concubines that his heart desires, but he had strayed from God for Bathsheba.
Hosea 1:2
When the Lord began to speak through Hosea, the Lord said to him, “Go, marry a promiscuous woman and have children with her, for like an adulterous wife this land is guilty of unfaithfulness to the Lord.”
Hosea 3:The Lord said to me, “Go, show your love to your wife again, though she is loved by another man and is an adulteress. Love her as the Lord loves the Israelites, though they turn to other gods and love the sacred raisin cakes.”
Hosea 1:2
When the Lord began to speak through Hosea, the Lord said to him, “Go, marry a promiscuous woman and have children with her, for like an adulterous wife this land is guilty of unfaithfulness to the Lord.”
Hosea 3:The Lord said to me, “Go, show your love to your wife again, though she is loved by another man and is an adulteress. Love her as the Lord loves the Israelites, though they turn to other gods and love the sacred raisin cakes.”
A wife is not a man's master. If she is, there is something wrong with you. I know the current marriage law is designed to promulgate the notion that a wife is master of her husband, but biblical marriage law does not have that notion.
David sinned because he was being lazy, sitting at home whilst his men were out fighting. If he'd been out fighting where he should have been he would not have sinned.
David sinned because he was being lazy, sitting at home whilst his men were out fighting. If he'd been out fighting where he should have been he would not have sinned.
Well, I guess where you are from, that the man is consider the master of the house; but I think you need to start visiting other countries. And David was around also with a lot of concubines also. I was referring that no one, even a man or a woman can't serve two at all. A man and a woman can't serve God while married to one another, unless one of them remain silent, while the other tend to their Father's business.
1 Kings 21:7
Jezebel his wife said, “Is this how you act as king over Israel? Get up and eat! Cheer up. I’ll get you the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.”
1 Corinthians 7:28
But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.
Luke 2:49
“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”
1 Kings 21:7
Jezebel his wife said, “Is this how you act as king over Israel? Get up and eat! Cheer up. I’ll get you the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.”
1 Corinthians 7:28
But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.
Luke 2:49
“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”
Polygamy is a sin. The only reason that Abraham and the others did these things was because they bought into the culture of the time. If God wanted man to have many wives, He would have made Adam and Eve and Betty and Janet and Karen. He didn't, though, did He? And consider that God wanted one man (Adam) and one woman (Eve) to begin the population of the entire earth. If polygamy was approved by God, He would have done so from the very beginning.
Secondly, Utah just legalized polygamy for all, meaning a woman can now have multiple husbands. Hmmmm. And, why did they legalize it? Because gay marriage is now legal. Yup. That's right. So the basis if polygamy in Utah is essentially, "Well, if a man can marry a man, then we most assuredly can't say that a man can marry seven men at the same time, right? Right."
By this logic, the progressive logic, we are all heading places God never intended. The last days are upon us. This is evident with the fact that churches support these wrong practices within their walls. Yup.
Secondly, Utah just legalized polygamy for all, meaning a woman can now have multiple husbands. Hmmmm. And, why did they legalize it? Because gay marriage is now legal. Yup. That's right. So the basis if polygamy in Utah is essentially, "Well, if a man can marry a man, then we most assuredly can't say that a man can marry seven men at the same time, right? Right."
By this logic, the progressive logic, we are all heading places God never intended. The last days are upon us. This is evident with the fact that churches support these wrong practices within their walls. Yup.
If I am allowed, I write: What did GOD said when Moses married a Cushita woman?
He was married to Sephora and I DON´T KNOW if she was dead by the moment he married a FOREIGNER (a thing forbbiden by the law).
If forbiden, both cases, why the Law GIVER broke the law? (Just in case he knew he was breaking the law, as David and many did, like me)
He was married to Sephora and I DON´T KNOW if she was dead by the moment he married a FOREIGNER (a thing forbbiden by the law).
If forbiden, both cases, why the Law GIVER broke the law? (Just in case he knew he was breaking the law, as David and many did, like me)
To Oak, you are incorrect.
See God made Life, Truth, Love, and Perfection since these are the things which God is. Sin is the absence of these things, thus the absence of God.
An interesting way to read the Bible is as a divine legal document. Which presents itself as a very strong case for the fact that Satan, Fallen Angels, and Mankind in fact brought Sin, Death, Suffering, and all the woes of the World into being when Man forsook his own immortality by eating that forbidden fruit. Quite curious indeed as this would suppose that Satan also is now mortal since he committed idolatry by trying to turn Mankind into God giving him the lie that he would not die when he tried this.
So it is Mankind only has himself and maybe some supernatural beings to blame for his own woes. However since God is Life, Love, Truth, etc. that He offers Salvation, you do have a chance to escape the Second Death. That is something though that you will have to decide of your own free will, I cannot make that choice for you.
Don't take my word for it though, Read the many books of that compilation called the Bible. Heck even the most secular of history and even modern events does a pretty good job in showing that the blame for sin and death is all Satan, Fallen Angel, and Mankind's doing.
See God made Life, Truth, Love, and Perfection since these are the things which God is. Sin is the absence of these things, thus the absence of God.
An interesting way to read the Bible is as a divine legal document. Which presents itself as a very strong case for the fact that Satan, Fallen Angels, and Mankind in fact brought Sin, Death, Suffering, and all the woes of the World into being when Man forsook his own immortality by eating that forbidden fruit. Quite curious indeed as this would suppose that Satan also is now mortal since he committed idolatry by trying to turn Mankind into God giving him the lie that he would not die when he tried this.
So it is Mankind only has himself and maybe some supernatural beings to blame for his own woes. However since God is Life, Love, Truth, etc. that He offers Salvation, you do have a chance to escape the Second Death. That is something though that you will have to decide of your own free will, I cannot make that choice for you.
Don't take my word for it though, Read the many books of that compilation called the Bible. Heck even the most secular of history and even modern events does a pretty good job in showing that the blame for sin and death is all Satan, Fallen Angel, and Mankind's doing.
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Willful polygamy could be as it is. Marriage without having the emotional and the physical strengths to doing so is "sinful", particularly when lacking those means to keep it alive, since marriege is not an intercourse of minutes, but a longlife intercourse.
My mother told me, few minutes ago, that a friend of 80s married an old man and He is not giving her what it is supposed on that married bed; but her friend said she is "happy" because she is getting money and he treats her like a queen.
Is it a reason to be married? Ufff!
My mother told me, few minutes ago, that a friend of 80s married an old man and He is not giving her what it is supposed on that married bed; but her friend said she is "happy" because she is getting money and he treats her like a queen.
Is it a reason to be married? Ufff!
He"s setting everyone free to unveil the thing that were hidden inside of them.
Rev. 22:11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” 12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
1 Thessalonians 5:2
for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
Rev. 22:11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” 12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
1 Thessalonians 5:2
for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.