POLISHED WORD OF GOD

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This days, going to church is always a problem for me, whenever i think of going to church, i become unhappy as i no longer learn anything from there- the church no longer act or preach love, no direct teachings on heaven as stated in the Holy Bible; instead of dishing out the Raw Word of God as stated in the Holy Bible, all i hear is a polished version of the word. All i hear in churches this days is how Christians should claim the blessings of Abraham, the question is, does Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Peter, James, Paul, oh & Jesus Christ and all the Bible greats actually have a mansion/private jets etc. as these men of God today? Miracle and prosperity teachings is always the other of the day. youth are no longer hardworking, student are no longer interested in knowledge, the world has turned upside down.

since i graduated from the university in 2014, i've been reluctant in attending church services. please we have to do something about this, if my generation is like this, i wonder what my unborn children's generation will be like!

#if only i can see people of like minds to form a team with and start effecting changes from around us by telling the people of this world the Raw Truth and by extension turning people's heart to God instead of the material things on earth- i would rather be glad.

I know the truth already, and the truth is suppose to set me free not put me in bondage (John 8:32). how about u?
 

preacher4truth

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Get out of that false gospel preaching group and join a church that doesn't preach the prosperity/WoF heresy. The heretics from the US have taken their false gospel of prosperity to Africa. Find another church, that place isn't a church, it's satan's work shop.
 

trofimus

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I think the solution is simple - leave the charismatic/pentecostal churches and theology and find another one, more sound and biblical.
 
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I think the solution is simple - leave the charismatic/pentecostal churches and theology and find another one, more sound and biblical.
Not as simple as u think, anywhere u turn here, they are same, no difference. They have corrupted the people’s mindset to the extent that they carry their pastors as god and they believe in whatever thing that comes out of the mouth of these so-called men of God. It is that genuinely bad to the extent that if u see anything wrong in their teachings and u say anything contrary to what they heard in church, they will call u an antichrist.
 

trofimus

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Not as simple as u think, anywhere u turn here, they are same, no difference. They have corrupted the people’s mindset to the extent that they carry their pastors as god and they believe in whatever thing that comes out of the mouth of these so-called men of God. It is that genuinely bad to the extent that if u see anything wrong in their teachings and u say anything contrary to what they heard in church, they will call u an antichrist.
Hm, I see... yes, if you live in an area where there are only such churches, the solution is not so simple.

You have probably these choices:

a) stay in such a church and try to ignore the wrong teaching, be there just for the Lord's supper and worship

b) if it is really bad and almost everything they do is wrong, it is probably better not to go to a local church, till the situation will resolve somehow

c) move to another city, town where is a better church
 
Feb 7, 2015
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This days, going to church is always a problem for me, whenever i think of going to church, i become unhappy as i no longer learn anything from there- the church no longer act or preach love, no direct teachings on heaven as stated in the Holy Bible; instead of dishing out the Raw Word of God as stated in the Holy Bible, all i hear is a polished version of the word. All i hear in churches this days is how Christians should claim the blessings of Abraham, the question is, does Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Peter, James, Paul, oh & Jesus Christ and all the Bible greats actually have a mansion/private jets etc. as these men of God today? Miracle and prosperity teachings is always the other of the day. youth are no longer hardworking, student are no longer interested in knowledge, the world has turned upside down.

since i graduated from the university in 2014, i've been reluctant in attending church services. please we have to do something about this, if my generation is like this, i wonder what my unborn children's generation will be like!

#if only i can see people of like minds to form a team with and start effecting changes from around us by telling the people of this world the Raw Truth and by extension turning people's heart to God instead of the material things on earth- i would rather be glad.

I know the truth already, and the truth is suppose to set me free not put me in bondage (John 8:32). how about u?
Then it may be that what you think you know already, is not the truth you are to know....... or else, wouldn't you BE free?
 
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Synergy. This book will explain it all to you. It will help you understand your discontent. It's not unwarranted.

http://www.charlesnewbold.com/books/TheHarlotChurchSystem.pdf

Thanks for the book Chris, the content is fascinating, it’s a good recommendation.
My problem is actually not with myself, but the souls that are perishing on daily bases via these polished word of God, though the Bible confirmed that in the last day, few would make heaven.

1.Does this mean we Christians should run to save ourselves alone?

2.What happens to others?

3.How do we physically help?

At least we have to do something like Apostle Paul, Peter, James… we can’t just fold our hands!
 

Chris1975

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Thanks for the book Chris, the content is fascinating, it’s a good recommendation.
My problem is actually not with myself, but the souls that are perishing on daily bases via these polished word of God, though the Bible confirmed that in the last day, few would make heaven.

1.Does this mean we Christians should run to save ourselves alone?

2.What happens to others?

3.How do we physically help?

At least we have to do something like Apostle Paul, Peter, James… we can’t just fold our hands!
Read this and let it bless you:

Ezekiel 3
3 Moreover He said to me, “Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel.” [SUP]2 [/SUP]So I opened my mouth, and He caused me to eat that scroll.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And He said to me, “Son of man, feed your belly, and fill your stomach with this scroll that I give you.” So I ate, and it was in my mouth like honey in sweetness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then He said to me: “Son of man, go to the house of Israel and speak with My words to them. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For you are not sent to a people of unfamiliar speech and of hard language, but to the house of Israel, [SUP]6 [/SUP]not to many people of unfamiliar speech and of hard language, whose words you cannot understand. Surely, had I sent you to them, they would have listened to you. [SUP]7 [/SUP]But the house of Israel will not listen to you, because they will not listen to Me; for all the house of Israel are impudent and hard-hearted. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Behold, I have made your face strong against their faces, and your forehead strong against their foreheads. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Like adamant stone, harder than flint, I have made your forehead; do not be afraid of them, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they are a rebellious house.”

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Moreover He said to me: “Son of man, receive into your heart all My words that I speak to you, and hear with your ears. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And go, get to the captives, to the children of your people, and speak to them and tell them, ‘Thus says the Lord God,’ whether they hear, or whether they refuse.”
 
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This days, going to church is always a problem for me, whenever i think of going to church, i become unhappy as i no longer learn anything from there- the church no longer act or preach love, no direct teachings on heaven as stated in the Holy Bible; instead of dishing out the Raw Word of God as stated in the Holy Bible, all i hear is a polished version of the word. All i hear in churches this days is how Christians should claim the blessings of Abraham, the question is, does Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Peter, James, Paul, oh & Jesus Christ and all the Bible greats actually have a mansion/private jets etc. as these men of God today? Miracle and prosperity teachings is always the other of the day. youth are no longer hardworking, student are no longer interested in knowledge, the world has turned upside down.

since i graduated from the university in 2014, i've been reluctant in attending church services. please we have to do something about this, if my generation is like this, i wonder what my unborn children's generation will be like!

#if only i can see people of like minds to form a team with and start effecting changes from around us by telling the people of this world the Raw Truth and by extension turning people's heart to God instead of the material things on earth- i would rather be glad.

I know the truth already, and the truth is suppose to set me free not put me in bondage (John 8:32). how about u?
Ah yes brother I feel your struggle, a lot of the prosperity preachers have been sent from USA to Nigeria to infect the churches there.

But I know personally here in Finland many godly nigerian men and women so I guarantee you if you pray and seek that you will find a good and faithful church to attend!

God bless you brother!
 

Adstar

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This days, going to church is always a problem for me, whenever i think of going to church, i become unhappy as i no longer learn anything from there- the church no longer act or preach love, no direct teachings on heaven as stated in the Holy Bible; instead of dishing out the Raw Word of God as stated in the Holy Bible, all i hear is a polished version of the word. All i hear in churches this days is how Christians should claim the blessings of Abraham, the question is, does Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Peter, James, Paul, oh & Jesus Christ and all the Bible greats actually have a mansion/private jets etc. as these men of God today? Miracle and prosperity teachings is always the other of the day. youth are no longer hardworking, student are no longer interested in knowledge, the world has turned upside down.

since i graduated from the university in 2014, i've been reluctant in attending church services. please we have to do something about this, if my generation is like this, i wonder what my unborn children's generation will be like!

#if only i can see people of like minds to form a team with and start effecting changes from around us by telling the people of this world the Raw Truth and by extension turning people's heart to God instead of the material things on earth- i would rather be glad.

I know the truth already, and the truth is suppose to set me free not put me in bondage (John 8:32). how about u?
That is the WOF prosperity dogma.. Yes it is a false doctrine.. i commend you for avoiding churches that preach that "cargo cult" type doctrine... Flee it and try to reach out to the youths you know to warn them that it is a false doctrine..
 

DustyRhodes

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There is no rule that you have to attend a mainline mega church...you can form a group of ten or
so and meet sundays and share the gospels and the rest of scripture...know that church is an hour
or so of the week but being a Christian is 24/7 lifestyle... there is no advantage in knowing all there
is to know but then not to have faith.. in the end there is faith, hope and love and the greatest of
these love...love fulfils all of the laws as proclaimed by Jesus, so if we concentrate on that, we can
live a fulfilling Christian life. :D
 

Blain

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Finding the right church for you is not always easy, For me the main issue is the sermons. I mean yes a lot of the churches i went to taught in a somewhat biblical manner but i go to church to learn more about God himself and to grow more as a believer, many pastors teach of God and teach of a Christian but very rarely do they speak about God himself and rarely do they seem to teach how to grow as a believer in everyday life.
I mean I want to learn a more in depth view of God himself. His nature his ways of thinking and ways of seeing his ways of doing things, i want to learn the similar and the unique attributes of God the father the son and the holy spirit I want to learn how we relate with God and in his kingdom I want to learn how the angels are with us and with God I want to learn more about this world and how god is seen and active all around us.

And i want to learn more about being a Christian I want to dive deeper into the deeper things of the Christian I don't want the milk i want the meat I don't want the basics of faith and of being a Christian I want to learn of the deeper things stuff that few think about or even consider. Maybe i have just had bad luck with churches but my hunger has never been sated
 
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Finding the right church for you is not always easy, For me the main issue is the sermons. I mean yes a lot of the churches i went to taught in a somewhat biblical manner but i go to church to learn more about God himself and to grow more as a believer, many pastors teach of God and teach of a Christian but very rarely do they speak about God himself and rarely do they seem to teach how to grow as a believer in everyday life.
I mean I want to learn a more in depth view of God himself. His nature his ways of thinking and ways of seeing his ways of doing things, i want to learn the similar and the unique attributes of God the father the son and the holy spirit I want to learn how we relate with God and in his kingdom I want to learn how the angels are with us and with God I want to learn more about this world and how god is seen and active all around us.

And i want to learn more about being a Christian I want to dive deeper into the deeper things of the Christian I don't want the milk i want the meat I don't want the basics of faith and of being a Christian I want to learn of the deeper things stuff that few think about or even consider. Maybe i have just had bad luck with churches but my hunger has never been sated

Wow, for the first time I see people of like minds, this is exactly what i’ve been after all my life.
Blain, I think we can form a good team. In my area, whenever I sound the way u just did, they call me a mad man, a man who is always causing confusion.
God’s people are been led astray on daily bases, our men of God preaches shadow of the World this days. Some pastor will even say “come on brethren, u don’t have to fast and pray, just command God, and he will do whatever ye want” -
and I’ll be like…
Is God an errand boy?
U want to command God, is ur way right before him?
Do u even love him?
Do u keep his commandments?
Do u love ur neighbors as ur self?
Christianity is now something else in my area; corruption is just the other of the day.
 

Blain

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Wow, for the first time I see people of like minds, this is exactly what i’ve been after all my life.
Blain, I think we can form a good team. In my area, whenever I sound the way u just did, they call me a mad man, a man who is always causing confusion.
God’s people are been led astray on daily bases, our men of God preaches shadow of the World this days. Some pastor will even say “come on brethren, u don’t have to fast and pray, just command God, and he will do whatever ye want” -
and I’ll be like…
Is God an errand boy?
U want to command God, is ur way right before him?
Do u even love him?
Do u keep his commandments?
Do u love ur neighbors as ur self?
Christianity is now something else in my area; corruption is just the other of the day.
It's no surprise you experience this. For many Christianity is a hobby or a way of living for others it is a fiery passion. Many people claim to be Christians they go to church they read the bible they pray their prayers and they serve but they lack that intimate love for and with god they lack that passion and fire for him they just play church.

How many people in the church know the hunger and the thirst for him? do they know what it's like to crave to know him and to have him just a little more? even just a drop? do they know what it feels like to long so deeply for him and to have a deeper love and bond with him that it pains you inside because you hunger for more than what he gives? he tends to give a bit of himself at a time which is pretty clever because it keeps us hungering and chasing after him without totally starving lol.

Many don't even know what love is anymore, we claim to be love yet attack others and look down upon others we are judgemental and hypocrites we teach love yet stab the wounded and broken hearted we teach the scriptures with out even really understanding them and we allow doctrine to make us enemies amongst ourselves.
 

Chris1975

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Apr 27, 2017
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Wow, for the first time I see people of like minds, this is exactly what i’ve been after all my life.
Blain, I think we can form a good team. In my area, whenever I sound the way u just did, they call me a mad man, a man who is always causing confusion.
God’s people are been led astray on daily bases, our men of God preaches shadow of the World this days. Some pastor will even say “come on brethren, u don’t have to fast and pray, just command God, and he will do whatever ye want” -
and I’ll be like…
Is God an errand boy?
U want to command God, is ur way right before him?
Do u even love him?
Do u keep his commandments?
Do u love ur neighbors as ur self?
Christianity is now something else in my area; corruption is just the other of the day.
Are you in Lagos Synergy?
 

preacher4truth

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Dec 28, 2016
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Ah yes brother I feel your struggle, a lot of the prosperity preachers have been sent from USA to Nigeria to infect the churches there.

But I know personally here in Finland many godly nigerian men and women so I guarantee you if you pray and seek that you will find a good and faithful church to attend!

God bless you brother!
Infect is exactly right! Good post bro!
 

preacher4truth

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That is the WOF prosperity dogma.. Yes it is a false doctrine.. i commend you for avoiding churches that preach that "cargo cult" type doctrine... Flee it and try to reach out to the youths you know to warn them that it is a false doctrine..
It is good to see another brother stand up against that false teaching! God bless.
 
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DRAW NEAR to God, and He will DRAW NEAR to you'...He knows our hearts,
and will always lead us where we are to go and what we are to do, as
we submit/give-up our wills to His Will...
 
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willybob

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organized Christianity is one giant system of error, she is the Harlot Mystery Babylon in Revelation. believers are called to come out of her lest we be partakers in hers sins and plagues....