Poll: Church attendance

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UNDER NORMALCONDITIONS, IS CORPORATE WORSHIP PART OF GODS EXPECTATION FOR CHRISTIANS?

  • YES

    Votes: 28 93.3%
  • NO

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Total voters
    30

slave

Senior Member
Mar 20, 2015
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#81
Discussion questions:

Can a mature Christian be a lone ranger Christian?

What are the benefits of corporate fellowship?

What are the barriers to church attendance for some?

What are the benefits of church attendance to you?

Is corporate fellowship about you, or is it about you sharing your spiritual gifts with others?

Is online fellowship a suitable substitute?
Can a Christ-like person be a lone-ranger, and be in God's good stead? "My grace is sufficient for thee," tells me I can stand alone in life for God, but Scripture is abundantly clear that my life is connected to all people and His mission and will is connected to all people. If we are to be loyal to nothing other than God's will then we must concede to this over personal desires. Pride, is a separatist; Christ's unconditional love doth wrought out such a separatists involvement in our demeanor.

"Go sell that thou hast, and give it to the poor...and come, follow Me." Mark 10:17-24.

A lone-wolf (for God) by way of proxy with others lays bear the fruit of his spirit. He has not voluntarily abandoned all his resources, and self-evaluations deliberately devoting himself detached from ALL things save one - Jesus Christ's interests who carries the interests of His Father. This is not an option, we all must do this surrender. We are so desperately wise in our own conceit that we continually make out that Jesus did not mean what He says, and we spiritualize His meaning into thin air. God saw, in Mark, that that man depended on riches, but if God had come to the lone-ranger Christian He would have said, "Love one another, as I have loved you." John 13:34-35. In Jesus' examples we know He came to save people, and to be a refuge for His people, only taking time out to sit at the Fathers feet of authority, yet to be renewed to serve the people.

Phil. 2:1-2 employees us to encourage one another, to comfort one another, to participate with one another in spirit, to emotionally expound in love, and to show mercy and grace with each other in reconciliation. We are told to complete the Lord's joy in these acts staying united in thought and spirit of purpose, to be found enlightened in the hope of His calling which, according to Eph. 1:18-23, tells us is the riches of His glory found in the inheritance of His saints, compelling us to serve the lost and to maintain the brethren. How does a lone ranger fit this picture? It isolates, specializes, shows pride, and contempt for the compelling unconditional love for others wrought out by a life lived in the spirit. Simply put, "Lone-Ranger Mentality" -- doesn't fit God's picture.

We must disengage ourselves from all things, including preferences, until we are a naked soul; becoming merely a man or woman then, henceforth, give that manhood or womanhood to God. We must reduce ourselves until nothing remains but our consciousness of ourselves and then cast that consciousness at the feet of Jesus Christ. If we do that the "ought to's" will be ever-present in our spiritual walk and in the Word of God prefacing God's will. We are to actively love all people, sinners; being Ambassadors of Christ, and with Saints; being encouragement and support, leaving way to iron sharpening iron, as "notuptome" has already graciously stated.
 
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planitsoon

Guest
#82
I am happy we are not living anymore in the last days of the Old Covenant, as the Jews understood it (they wrote, these days, not those, children, this is the last hour, not, that will be the last hour etc etc) and they had been waiting since Daniel 9 for over 400 years (70 weeks of Daniel) for the prince to arrive.

But yes, fellowship is very important to keep each other sharp because friends are like elevators, they take you up or down to their level but never leave you where you were, therefore, to fellowship with like minded believers is so important no matter what setting it is as long as we can share our very lives with each other and grow up together in a greater revelation of Who He is, what He has done and who we are in Him.
 

Utah

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Dec 1, 2014
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#83
We are to hold to the ways of the first church. They gathered on the first day of the week, set aside offerings on the first day of the week, took the Lords supper together on the first day of the week, they heard a sermon on the first day of the week- sounds like going to church to me. "Do not forsake the assembly."
We are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, mind and soul, and our neighbors as ourselves. I don't see anywhere in the Greatest Commandment that states failure to attend worship services regularly puts our salvation in jeopardy. Quit putting stumbling blocks up against those who love God privately and intimately.
 
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MsKy

Guest
#84
Others have posted scripture to support Christians participating in corporate worship so I will skip it.

I'll start by saying that I love the church.

Being a part of a local body of believers keeps me from being the worst version of myself. Without a local body I would be surrounded by my books on theology without practical application. I have to be honest, sometimes I need a good rebuke by someone who loves me. I see the church as much more than a Sunday morning sermon. In my life it has looked like...

*small groups at a cafe
*hanging out at my house discussing scripture at my dinning room table
*taking food to people when they need it
*praying for each other
*letting missionaries stay at our house when they are in town
*cleaning people's homes when they are sick
*having friends who accept me and love me in my sin and doubt
*showing up
*giving wedding showers, baby showers, etc.

I love God's people. I love that I can travel anywhere and attend a church and feel at home. God's house has always been a place of comfort and acceptance for me. My favorite part of being in a church is being around new converts. I appreciate the rawness of their faith and how their questions keep me on my toes. My other favorite thing is being around older church ladies. One, they can cook. Two, they have been around and have so much wisdom and love to share.

Growing up I would sometimes go stay with a missionary lady and her brothers on her farm in the summer. She was a widow, her brothers never married. They would come to the states and farm while raising money to go back on the mission field. One night I was there and I woke up thirsty. I was walking downstairs and I heard someone praying. I focused my eyes and one of the brothers (in his 60s) was laying on the floor praying. In their home someone was always praying.

I could have never met people like them if I wasn't active in a church. I have learned so much from watching and listening to faithful men and women of God. I can't imagine trying to live out a Christian life without a church family.
 
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Lost_sheep

Guest
#85
I try to attend church, but what I have found so far is that church = sucks beyond belief. I'll probably go to church tomorrow morning, but if it's like it has been any other week, I'll be disappointed and be looking for another place of worship. The modern protestant church = teh suxxo0r
 
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planitsoon

Guest
#86
If you refer to church, as the standard Sunday morning ritual of boredom and death that most Christians sit through because they subconsciously believe that this is the way to do penance and God calls it even, while I could sit at home watching my washing machine going into spine dry and believe me, the last one is far more exiting that the first option, then I would say no. That kind of church was never God intention. The modern Catholic Mass in Protestant temples has killed the laity and turned them from participators according to 1 Cor. 14:26, into silent followers. It killed the functioning of the priesthood of all believers and turned it into a Diotrephes Dominant (3 John 1:9) Pyramid Christian Country Club System. Jesus hated the Nicolaitans (nico = to rule / laity = the people).

When Jesus met with His disciples Jesus always had His mobile pulpit with Him, then Mary did the anouncements and John and Peter sang three songs with Jesus giving a short 22 minute to 70 minute monologue, that was followed by another two songs and a prayer. You do not believe that? Then why on earth do we come together this way?

Instead, we know that they walked, fished and eat together while they talked. That was the embryo of church. True fellowship happens there where brothers and sisters in the Lord share their lives 24/7 just like Jesus did with His disciples.

The majority is seldom right as we know and no wonder that God therefore always spoke about a remnant. I agree that there should be accountability and that can only happen up close and personal. We need to meet like minded Christians so we can strong as friends are like elevators who either take us up or down to their level. Either speak up or get out of lies are told from the church throne also called pulpit.

Church happens when there already two or three Christians meet in His Name. If a fellowship goes over 20 members than automatically we loose our fellowship and the church is split up in small clicky groups.

Church happens where we all can participate and grow and exercise our giftings, the modern pagan coorperate Beast that we have created and have to keep on feeding with programs etc makes it for the "call out ones" impossible to come together as church.

One cannot survive on his own and we should at least several Christian brothers or sisters that we can meet with, in a home, a park, or in a pub ( there are churches meeting in pubs around the world and use the place as an outreach).

Jesus would have church in the pubs too if He would be walking on earth today.
 
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Kaycie

Guest
#87
God says not to forsake the assembly. Sometimes it can't be helped, but to do it on purpose without reason is sin.
 

Cee

Senior Member
May 14, 2010
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#88
What's interesting is the reason why the Bible says to not forsake the local assembly of saints is so we can build up one another in good works. So that we can help one another, encourage one another, and love one another. To just go to Church without understanding the reasoning is simply religion.

C.