Pope try to unite catholic and protestant

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Jackson123

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https://youtu.be/zKQlA2u1oe8

Is he the son of prediction?

He is jesuit, jesuit founded to counter Protestant, it was by persecution, now they getting smart, not use persecution anymore

Now they use diplomacy

is this His sign of end time?
 

SovereignGrace

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Son of prediction? Is Pope Francis trying to predict something? ;-)

Trying to bring RCC together with christians is like trying to mix oil and water.
 
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he has already succeeded. last year they had that big together rally and alot of pastors and teachers attended it.

i dont think pope is the son of perdition, i think it will be someone in israel who enters the third temple. most likely from the tribe of dan, its the one tribe not listed in revelation.

for sure it will be someone jews are willing to accept as messiah.
 

Jackson123

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he has already succeeded. last year they had that big together rally and alot of pastors and teachers attended it.

i dont think pope is the son of perdition, i think it will be someone in israel who enters the third temple. most likely from the tribe of dan, its the one tribe not listed in revelation.

for sure it will be someone jews are willing to accept as messiah.

Jews may not accept non Jews as Mesiah, but they may lie, pretending to be Jews

John give a clue , antichrist went out from us(Christian or false Christian) but they were not of us.

so, I believe not Muslim or Judaism. Must be pretending to be Christian/catholic
1john 2

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
 

Marcelo

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If I don't stick to all of the teachings of my own church, why should I follow the RCC or a future "World Church"? No matter what I will continue attempting to follow Jesus.
 

wolfwint

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https://youtu.be/zKQlA2u1oe8

Is he the son of prediction?

He is jesuit, jesuit founded to counter Protestant, it was by persecution, now they getting smart, not use persecution anymore

Now they use diplomacy

is this His sign of end time?
Not only protestant, he also met with pentecostals and has the charismatic movement in the RRC.
 

Hizikyah

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Catholic means universal...

Ecumenism.jpg
 

abcdef

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https://youtu.be/zKQlA2u1oe8

Is he the son of prediction?

He is jesuit, jesuit founded to counter Protestant, it was by persecution, now they getting smart, not use persecution anymore

Now they use diplomacy

is this His sign of end time?

This has been going on for years, as long as I can remember.

The last that I heard, some years ago, was that the Methodist and RCC had resolved all the issues except one, and that issue could not be resolved.

The position of the Bishop of Rome as the ultimate authority and head of the church/kingdom.

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The bishop of Rome (BoR), is the head of the iron dragon beast nation.

He is the spirit of Caesar.

He is not the holy father god that he claims to be.
 

Nehemiah6

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Catholic means universal...
Perhaps. But since the Church -- the Body of Christ -- is invisible to men and visible only to God, there is no such thing as a "Catholic Church" on earth. What we have is several groups under the Catholic umbrella (including the Orthodox) and they are all traditionalist churches which have elevated "Holy Tradition" to the level of Scripture.

The pope was called the Antichrist by the Reformers, and this pope will work hand in hand with the actual Antichrist (if he happens to be around at that time). Many Catholics believe that this pope is the last of the popes.
 

Hizikyah

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Perhaps. But since the Church -- the Body of Christ -- is invisible to men and visible only to God, there is no such thing as a "Catholic Church" on earth. What we have is several groups under the Catholic umbrella (including the Orthodox) and they are all traditionalist churches which have elevated "Holy Tradition" to the level of Scripture.

The pope was called the Antichrist by the Reformers, and this pope will work hand in hand with the actual Antichrist (if he happens to be around at that time). Many Catholics believe that this pope is the last of the popes.
I dont disagree but they call themselves The Catholic Church.

of course the real ecclesia is in the heavens and it's earthly members don't have "official membership documentation" but have the Spirit of Yah.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Philippians 3:20, “But our citizenship is in heaven, out from which we also eagerly wait for our Ruler, Yahshua Messiah the King.”[/FONT]
 

vic1980

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#11
https://youtu.be/zKQlA2u1oe8

Is he the son of prediction?

He is jesuit, jesuit founded to counter Protestant, it was by persecution, now they getting smart, not use persecution anymore

Now they use diplomacy

is this His sign of end time?
Many of her daughters have return to her , expect much more church leaders , teachers , to unite with her. The goverments of this world also have pleadge to uphold his Ladato si Encyclical Letter.

This is something to keep and eye one , because History is repeating itself once again. The deadly Head would is healed.
 

Nehemiah6

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Is he the son of prediction?
Yes, the pope is the son of perdition [damnation], since he deliberately promotes false Christianity, a false Gospel, as well as the New World Order agenda.

Paul said that even if an angel brought another gospel, he would be accursed. Every false gospel is under the curse of God.
 
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My honest humble unbiased yet correct opinion is: I dont know.

Many of the eschatology systems we have today were actually developed by the jesuits just to get heat off the Pope during the reformation. That was one of the things all the reformers agreed upon, that the pope and his seat was the antichrist.

Some wiki:

Francisco Ribera (1537–1591) was a Spanish Jesuit theologian, identified with the Futurist Christian eschatological view.
In order to remove the papacy of the Catholic Church from consideration as the Antichrist (as an act of countering the Protestant Reformation)[citation needed], Ribera began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, proposing that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse apply to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3½ literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy because of the Reformation cry stating that "the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." (Martin Luther, Aug. 18, 1520).
 

Enow

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2 Corinthians 6:[SUP]14 [/SUP]Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?[SUP] 15 [/SUP]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?[SUP] 16 [/SUP]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

That is why there should be no ecumenical move by other christian denomenations with the Catholic churches too.
 

Jackson123

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If I don't stick to all of the teachings of my own church, why should I follow the RCC or a future "World Church"? No matter what I will continue attempting to follow Jesus.
Yep, that is right, big organization may compromise. A lot of church come close to Vatican, may be Vatican good in diplomacy
 

Jackson123

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My honest humble unbiased yet correct opinion is: I dont know.

Many of the eschatology systems we have today were actually developed by the jesuits just to get heat off the Pope during the reformation. That was one of the things all the reformers agreed upon, that the pope and his seat was the antichrist.

Some wiki:

Francisco Ribera (1537–1591) was a Spanish Jesuit theologian, identified with the Futurist Christian eschatological view.
In order to remove the papacy of the Catholic Church from consideration as the Antichrist (as an act of countering the Protestant Reformation)[citation needed], Ribera began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, proposing that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse apply to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3½ literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy because of the Reformation cry stating that "the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." (Martin Luther, Aug. 18, 1520).
Yep Jesuit start pretrib doctrine, they insert it to Protestant
 

Jackson123

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2 Corinthians 6:[SUP]14 [/SUP]Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?[SUP] 15 [/SUP]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?[SUP] 16 [/SUP]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

That is why there should be no ecumenical move by other christian denomenations with the Catholic churches too.
I 100% agree. These people are not pure believer, they may pastor or great leader, but not pure believer
 

Jackson123

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This has been going on for years, as long as I can remember.

The last that I heard, some years ago, was that the Methodist and RCC had resolved all the issues except one, and that issue could not be resolved.

The position of the Bishop of Rome as the ultimate authority and head of the church/kingdom.

----

The bishop of Rome (BoR), is the head of the iron dragon beast nation.

He is the spirit of Caesar.

He is not the holy father god that he claims to be.
One tell me that catholic consider non catholic is protestant
 

Endoscopy

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Son of prediction? Is Pope Francis trying to predict something? ;-)

Trying to bring RCC together with christians is like trying to mix oil and water.
Are you claiming that the RCC doesn't adhere to the Apostles Creed. It was designed to seperate Christians from non Christians.

Apostles creed


I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
From thence He will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Christian Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.
 

Endoscopy

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Yes, the pope is the son of perdition [damnation], since he deliberately promotes false Christianity, a false Gospel, as well as the New World Order agenda.

Paul said that even if an angel brought another gospel, he would be accursed. Every false gospel is under the curse of God.
What teaching of the RCC is contrary to the Apostles Creed?