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Locoponydirtman

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What about the long standing assistance we have given Israel.
What nation is so important to God.

The history of US-Israeli Relations - https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/history.html

Genesis 12 : 1-3
Leave your country, your kindred, and your father’s household, and go to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you; and all the families of the earth will be blessed through you. (Genesis 12:1-3)

2 Kings 21:4
And he built altars in the house of the Lord, of which the Lord said, In Jerusalem will I put my name.
The nation state called israel is not israel. Israel is the christians living through out the world. They are a synagog of satan.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Imagine attempting to pass that legislation in this country today.
one of the many evidences that we are not a christian nation.
 
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The nation state called israel is not israel. Israel is the christians living through out the world. They are a synagog of satan.
Can you tell me where to find this in the Bible. Thinking the church is the body of the Saints and Israel is God's Holy and promised land.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Can you tell me where to find this in the Bible. Thinking the church is the body of the Saints and Israel is God's Holy and promised land.
Paul explains that Israel has always been about faith, in the book of Romans chapter 9.
As for why i call them a synagog of satan, see these verses about the jews who were persecuting the church.
“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.2.9.NKJV
Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV

Also consider that they have a goal of rebuilding the temple and reinstituting the sacrifices which is a blasphemey against Christ.
 

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Paul explains that Israel has always been about faith, in the book of Romans chapter 9.
As for why i call them a synagog of satan, see these verses about the jews who were persecuting the church.
“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.2.9.NKJV
Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
Revelation 3:9 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.3.9.NKJV

Also consider that they have a goal of rebuilding the temple and reinstituting the sacrifices which is a blasphemey against Christ.
Still working on this one.
 
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its a shame that Israel isnt one of them
Israel seems to have been living AC-DC lyrics "Highway to Hell" for several thousand years.
Both grossly confused about the definition of the promised land.
Yes a shame for a country so blessed.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Anti Semitism right here.
Its not about the Semetic lineage people. They are just humans, some are christian, some are talmudist, some are muslim or hindu etc. All forms of nationalism is idolatry as well as globalism. And its all from satan.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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When ever someone plays the racism card they have lost all contact with cognative rational thought and there is no saving the conversation.
 
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Just read the scripture and pray. God will lead you. Dont take mine or anyone elses word for it.
Perhaps these scriptures will begin to open eyes to what you meant(a bit confused by your post). And Paul can be a bit challenging.:

Rom 9:7-8, “ Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
Rom. 9:25-26, “As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. 26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
Rom. 9:30-32, “ What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;”

https://shreddingtheveil.org/2017/01/15/gods-definitions-part-i-the-house-of-israel/
 
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Just read the scripture and pray. God will lead you. Dont take mine or anyone elses word for it.
Perhaps the article above is setting me straight. Israel after Christ is not what it was before Christ. Israel became those putting their faith in Christ whatever their nationality(Jew or gentile) might be. And the arrogant Jews(especially the pharisees) that rejected(and killed) Christ are the synagog of satan and until this day intend to rebuild their temple and commence performing their (sinful) Old Testament sacrifices.

Rev 3:9 to the church in Philadelphia

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

After the Philadelphia church John addresses the Laodicean church.
 
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The nation state called israel is not israel. Israel is the christians living through out the world. They are a synagog of satan.
Cahn is pointing out the redundancy that is in the old testament judgements of God.
Hes really not predicting anything but just following what will happen if this and that persists.
The warnings of God (shakings is a bibical term) are just that warnings..but if ignored goes to judgement.
God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked unlike some do but for all to repent.
Gods shakings are cause and effect but the world wants you to believe its because of the lack of this or that poor leadership.
Constantly the news will tell you if we just do this or fund this or allow this everthing will be alright.
As we know it is always in the direction that pulls us away from GOD.
The constant lieing and blame game resolves nothing and all the shakings are explained away by the world.
The apostle ask what will be the signs of your coming after jesus told them he said to watch and look up.
But the world would have you to look at the television as they explain it away.
Do you know the real reason our president was refused oil from the middle east. Its because of his liberal policies and agenda....not political but a moral issue.
Also to send a women V.P Harris to negotiate in foreign affairs is fruitless. Most do not recognize a women as a leader.
As a result we stress liberalism and equality to a culture that is dogmatic on male leadership.
Aside from all of this how much money does it take to control the weather? ( remember its tax payer money used).
Natural disasters like never before increasing in degree explained and blamed on climate change.
Pretty sure JESUS talked about these events.
Did you know that inflation is a sin. Leading people into poverty as a king is sinful yet our leader denies it exsist by his hand he blames it on covid.
This thread is to look at things from a bibical perspective not political. These are bibical.
Its all about trump and biden so says the world....not so...its about the hearts of men who have forgotten their GOD.
Yes pottersclay, it is a moral issue. We are so educated about American history and Biblical doctrine. Very impressive ! We flip thru the pages of our history, conspiracy theories, scriptural context details, powers of authority, opinion comparisons the real problem is failing morality. The Gospel was designed for the more simple minded population too. Usually there is a simple answer to reach all. In this case there is !

step 1 - Starting with the definition of a democracy by Merriam-Webster:

de·moc·ra·cy di-ˈmä-krə-sē

pluraldemocracies
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: government by the people
especially : rule of the majority
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: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

OK, so our country is a government by the people.

Next step, consider one of the Ten Commandments: "You Shall Not Commit Adultery"
God gave strong warnings about disobeying these commandments, and always for very good reason.

Final step - For those that think America has not fallen into a sewer hole since about 1970 need to consider this morality statistic very carefully. Yes, it is a fact that this country is falling fast simply due to morality and Mr. Cahn was hitting on that point clearly in the video you posted at the beginning of your thread.


Rejoice for the time draws nigh.
 
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pottersclay

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Yes pottersclay, it is a moral issue. We are so educated about American history and Biblical doctrine. Very impressive ! We flip thru the pages of our history, conspiracy theories, scriptural context details, powers of authority, opinion comparisons the real problem is failing morality. The Gospel was designed for the more simple minded population too. Usually there is a simple answer to reach all. In this case there is !

step 1 - Starting with the definition of a democracy by Merriam-Webster:

de·moc·ra·cy di-ˈmä-krə-sē

pluraldemocracies
1
a
: government by the people
especially : rule of the majority
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: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

OK, so our country is a government by the people.

Next step, consider one of the Ten Commandments: "You Shall Not Commit Adultery"
God gave strong warnings about disobeying these commandments, and always for very good reason.

Final step - For those that think America has not fallen into a sewer hole since about 1970 need to consider this morality statistic very carefully. Yes, it is a fact that this country is falling fast simply due to morality and Mr. Cahn was hitting on that point clearly in the video you posted at the beginning of your thread.


Rejoice for the time draws nigh.
Love it ❤a saint that does his homework....breath of fresh air.
I didnt post this thread to debate the messenger or to discuss the meanings of scripture when it comes to israel.
All of israel is not israel..well....all that say they are christian ..... are they?
The signs of the times is upon us and as the world tries to explain away the events which proceed our Lords coming i believe we need to point out that the scriptures are coming to life right before our eyes. Warnings and shakings.
Our very christian roots go deep into judisim . To understand the whys and wheres is not to debate the end of the book (revelation) but to understand the beginning (old testament) and the very foot print of our GOD in history. Then and only then can we understand the end.
Has it ever occured to you that the Lord appointed jews to understand how to be christian? That jesus himself was a jew and that GODs chosen are the nation he created...Israel. That was my wake up call.
Jesus has come to fulfill all that the prophets spoke...not to start a new religion.
I agree that cahn looks like those we have marked as false and misleading. He is not the only saved hebrew i have listen to. There are many. Which also is the signs of the times. Praise GOD.
Are we not grafted into Abrahams seed? Is he not the father of faith? But before that what was he. A gentile a pagan statue maker. His first covenant with GOD was a pagan custom. That speaks volumes to me.
 
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Love it ❤a saint that does his homework....breath of fresh air.
I didnt post this thread to debate the messenger or to discuss the meanings of scripture when it comes to israel.
All of israel is not israel..well....all that say they are christian ..... are they?
The signs of the times is upon us and as the world tries to explain away the events which proceed our Lords coming i believe we need to point out that the scriptures are coming to life right before our eyes. Warnings and shakings.
Our very christian roots go deep into judisim . To understand the whys and wheres is not to debate the end of the book (revelation) but to understand the beginning (old testament) and the very foot print of our GOD in history. Then and only then can we understand the end.
Has it ever occured to you that the Lord appointed jews to understand how to be christian? That jesus himself was a jew and that GODs chosen are the nation he created...Israel. That was my wake up call.
Jesus has come to fulfill all that the prophets spoke...not to start a new religion.
I agree that cahn looks like those we have marked as false and misleading. He is not the only saved hebrew i have listen to. There are many. Which also is the signs of the times. Praise GOD.
Are we not grafted into Abrahams seed? Is he not the father of faith? But before that what was he. A gentile a pagan statue maker. His first covenant with GOD was a pagan custom. That speaks volumes to me.
Great summation Brother.
A thought or concept or message can be written in a near infinite combination of words/sentences/paragraphs.
It takes an extreme level of intellect to write something in the absolutely most concise fashion to relay the intended message.
Behold ! It would be a task only God can perform and HE did utilize his intellect to compile this Bible.
It is our responsibility to interpret his message accurately thru reverence, conviction and the assistance of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Yes pottersclay, it is a moral issue. We are so educated about American history and Biblical doctrine. Very impressive ! We flip thru the pages of our history, conspiracy theories, scriptural context details, powers of authority, opinion comparisons the real problem is failing morality. The Gospel was designed for the more simple minded population too. Usually there is a simple answer to reach all. In this case there is !

step 1 - Starting with the definition of a democracy by Merriam-Webster:

de·moc·ra·cy di-ˈmä-krə-sē

pluraldemocracies
1
a
: government by the people
especially : rule of the majority
b
: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

OK, so our country is a government by the people.

Next step, consider one of the Ten Commandments: "You Shall Not Commit Adultery"
God gave strong warnings about disobeying these commandments, and always for very good reason.

Final step - For those that think America has not fallen into a sewer hole since about 1970 need to consider this morality statistic very carefully. Yes, it is a fact that this country is falling fast simply due to morality and Mr. Cahn was hitting on that point clearly in the video you posted at the beginning of your thread.


Rejoice for the time draws nigh.
Sin has increased world wide.
Jesus is comming back likely sooner than later, and its possible America will fall much like Rome did if Jesus dont return first.
However Joe and the western sanctioning of sodomites is a drop in the sea. I could go on ad infinitum about the horrindous sins of the west.
A little research for you. Look at the effects that ww1 and ww2 had on the churches in europe. Look at the frankfort school ideologybthat we imported to our shores at that same time.
 
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pottersclay

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Sin has increased world wide.
Jesus is comming back likely sooner than later, and its possible America will fall much like Rome did if Jesus dont return first.
However Joe and the western sanctioning of sodomites is a drop in the sea. I could go on ad infinitum about the horrindous sins of the west.
A little research for you. Look at the effects that ww1 and ww2 had on the churches in europe. Look at the frankfort school ideologybthat we imported to our shores at that same time.
Wow ok ..i quite agree with what you wrote here. History is a great teacher. That is why i think their trying to erase it or give it a new identity. In there own little way bringing down statues or rewriting history itself..... is not the answer.
We the church have seperated ourselves from the east and have now invented our own GOD per say.
When in fact our GOD is a never changing GOD....the true GOD that is.
Watering down the truth and making christanity more palatable has weaken the church.
This nation is tossed to and fro by winds of doctrine as paul said. Thats why we need to get back to our roots.
Many of Gods promises are to us also. I believe the church has a accountability that we need to start acting on.
Not that we can stop what God has ordered but to make sure we have done everything we were called to do.
The Lord has shown great mercy and grace upon this land of ours and our sins are many. His kindness and patience are seen throughout the pages of time.... But there will be a reckoning... and who can stand.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Wow ok ..i quite agree with what you wrote here. History is a great teacher. That is why i think their trying to erase it or give it a new identity. In there own little way bringing down statues or rewriting history itself..... is not the answer.
We the church have seperated ourselves from the east and have now invented our own GOD per say.
When in fact our GOD is a never changing GOD....the true GOD that is.
Watering down the truth and making christanity more palatable has weaken the church.
This nation is tossed to and fro by winds of doctrine as paul said. Thats why we need to get back to our roots.
Many of Gods promises are to us also. I believe the church has a accountability that we need to start acting on.
Not that we can stop what God has ordered but to make sure we have done everything we were called to do.
The Lord has shown great mercy and grace upon this land of ours and our sins are many. His kindness and patience are seen throughout the pages of time.... But there will be a reckoning... and who can stand.
Great! we agree this far.
 
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Sin has increased world wide.
Jesus is comming back likely sooner than later, and its possible America will fall much like Rome did if Jesus dont return first.
However Joe and the western sanctioning of sodomites is a drop in the sea. I could go on ad infinitum about the horrindous sins of the west.
A little research for you. Look at the effects that ww1 and ww2 had on the churches in europe. Look at the frankfort school ideologybthat we imported to our shores at that same time.
Sanctioning of sodomites and increasing their practices on a national level is clear sign that a nation is heavily engaged in immoral practices of all imaginable types and soon to face God's punishment.

It is like an indicator for the stock market, a numerical value of a stock's health standing. One doesn't necessarily need to study the company that holds the stock to know that the company is failing or prospering.

By the time a nation's immorality reaches a point that it advocates the pride and practice of the sodomites and Baal one can rest assured that child sacrifice, divorce, sexual freedoms are running rampant along with failing churches, murders, violence, self centered wars, etc. Biblical history is clear on what happens to nations following this path. God's punishment is ALL about sin. Particularly moral depravity on such a low level. Following the increasing divorce rate accurately is the rise of LGBT practice/rights, gay movements/rights, abortions, fornications, etc. Start about 1970, there is plenty of data available to prove a great acceleration in these 'recent' trends. Cahn must be respected for bringing these issues to light even though he goes about it in questionable ways.

Of course with failing morals comes crime increases, economic ruin, wars over economic problems, laziness, children in peril, generations lacking in survival instincts, etc. Our founding fathers were not waving the rainbow flag(God's covenant rainbow) and very doubtful that they were in the closet with Monica. Clinton did throw great parties, especially the one that Fleetwood Mac played at. Another time, another very wild life...thank you Lord for saving my very wretched soul.