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JC4usall

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I would like to know your thoughts on the following passage found in Luke.

“When you go with your adversary to the magistrate, make every effort along the way to settle with him, lest he drag you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. I tell you, you shall not depart from there till you have paid the very last mite.” (Luke 12: 58-59)
 

Zmouth

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Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? Luke 12:57
 

Desertsrose

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This may help to clarify your passage in Luke. Some gospels that have a similar passage will give more context and more understanding. :)

Matthew 5:23-26
Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent.

So be a peacemaker. :) Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."
 
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TY both for the 'spot-on' responses...

in MATT., it speaks of if you are offering a gift before the altar, and you remember
that your brother has something against you - you 'go-back' to your brother
and work it out first, another words, if you are not at peace with your brother,
then you cannot come into the presence of God...

in LUKE, the proceeding verses speak of Christ not bringing Peace, but a Sword,
and he speaks of households being 'divided', and this is the way it is when some
members of the household serve Christ and the others do not...then he goes on
to tell them that they cannot even get along among themselves, point being,
that the Spiritual and the carnal will always be separate...
Jacob was called, Esau was not...
 

mcubed

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The Scripture is good common since, two-fold. First, in context, we better get right before the Judge, G-d is not playing, time is short, and if we do not settle with Messiah the Judge will make us pay. Messiah did not come into the world to condom the world, we were already condemned, according to Scripture. But NOW is the time to make it right with our debtor, Messiah, because we will go before the Judge, and if we are not in the Book of Life we will pay in eternity’s hell.

Second, it says what it means and means what it says… Money matters, if you owe, make a settlement before court, because you will pay. Know any dead-beat dads….

And that is why the Bible is alive, sharper than any two-edge sward!!!!
 
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pottersclay

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Jesus is possible talking about debtors prison. Or a form of it. We don't make deals with our adversary so in this case I think he is talking figuratively.
 
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pottersclay

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Scripture says the borrower is slave to the lender.
 

breno785au

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I would like to know your thoughts on the following passage found in Luke.

“When you go with your adversary to the magistrate, make every effort along the way to settle with him, lest he drag you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. I tell you, you shall not depart from there till you have paid the very last mite.” (Luke 12: 58-59)
In context of the parable... The only reason why the judge would throw you into prison is because they found you also to be guilty of wrong doing and here's you here dragging a person to court over theirs!
Don't be a hypocrite and forgive others.

A lesson I need to learn.