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The beast in Revelation 13

In the vision he saw “a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw [was like] unto a leopard,
and his feet [were as] the feet of a bear,
and his mouth [as the] mouth of a lion:

and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority”
(Revelation 13:1-2). For this description will help identify the beast.

In Daniel 7, we find exactly these same symbols described.
Here again are the beasts, the seven heads, the 10 horns,
and here also is the lion, the bear and the leopard.

And here in Daniel the Bible tells us what these symbols represent.
God had given Daniel understanding in dreams and visions (Daniel 1:17).
a dream and a vision (Daniel 7:1) in which he saw four great beasts (verse 3)

1In the third year of the reign of (Jehoiakim) king of Judah
came (Nebuchadnezzar) king of (Babylon) unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
2And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels
of the house of God: which he carried into the land of (Shinar)

as in Revelation, the beasts came up out of [the sea].
seas=populations multitudes of people

The first was like a “lion” (verse 4),
the second was like a “bear” (verse 5),
the third like a “leopard” (verse 6),

and the fourth was so dreadful and terrible it could not be compared
to any wild beast known to inhabit the Earth! (verse 7).

-the seven "heads"

Now there was only [one head] described on the lion, [one] for the bear,
[one] for the fourth beast —but the third beast, the leopard, had [four heads]
—thus making seven heads in all!

And out of this great and dreadful fourth beast grew 10 horns!

“These great [beasts], which are four, are [four kings], which shall arise
out of the earth,” is the interpretation of verse 17.

And the word king is synonymous with kingdom, and used only in the sense
that the king represents the kingdom over which he rules, for in verse 23 we read,

“The fourth beast shall be the fourth [kingdom] upon the earth .…” Notice also
the word kingdom is used to explain the beasts in verses 18, 22, 24 and 27.

-the “horns”

“And the ten [horns] out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise .…”

Notice the 10 horns, or 10 succeeding kingdoms or governments,
come out of a kingdom, not out of a man, or a superman. these 10 horns are 10
succeeding kingdoms growing out of the fourth kingdom, which was to rule the Earth!


-Identification of the Kingdoms

These same four world-ruling Gentile kingdoms are described in the second chapter of Daniel.
King Nebuchadnezzar of the Chaldean Empire, who had taken the Jews captive, had a dream,
the meaning of which God revealed to Daniel.

The king saw a great image. Its head was of gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly
and thighs of brass, its legs of iron and its feet and toes were part iron and part clay.

Finally, a stone, not in men’s hands, but supernaturally, smote the image upon his feet and toes.
It was broken in pieces and was blown away like chaff. Then the stone that smashed it became
a great mountain and filled the whole Earth.

“This,” Daniel says, beginning verse 36, “is the dream;
and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.”


“… Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and
subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise” (verses 38-40).


-the stone smashing the image at its toes is found in the 44th verse:

“And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never
be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces
and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.”

The Stone is Christ and His world-ruling Kingdom. The interpretation of the stone is given many
places in the Bible. “Jesus Christ of Nazareth … is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders, which is become the head of the corner” (Acts 4:10-11).


And so we see that here are four universal world-ruling Gentile kingdoms.
They begin with the Chaldean Empire, which took the Jews captive to Babylon.


-God had promised ancient Israel to be His nation if they obeyed and faithful, they would grow
into a multitude of nations—or an empire—that would dominate the entire Earth.

But, for disobedience they would have to be taken captive by Gentile nations (Leviticus 26 and
other prophecies). Ancient Israel had been tried through the generations and centuries.

They had disobeyed. Now they had been taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar, who had raised up the
world’s first empire. But as God revealed through Daniel in chapter 2, it was God who had turned
world dominion over to this succession of Gentile empires.

-The Beasts

The first was Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom, the Chaldean Empire, called “Babylon”
after the name of its capital city, 625-539 b.c.

37Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven
hath given thee (a kingdom), power, and strength, and glory.

38And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of
the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made (thee ruler over them all).
(Thou) art this head of gold.

#1 head of gold. Chaldean Empire. (626 BC-539 b.c)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire

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The second kingdom, which followed, then, we know from history, was the Persian Empire,
558-330 b.c., often called Medo-Persia, composed of Medes and Persians.

39And (after thee) shall arise another kingdom (inferior to thee),
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall (bear rule over all the earth).

-Daniel 5 , Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzars son is now king.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belshazzar

27TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
28PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and (given) to (the Medes and Persians).

31And (Darius) the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Mede

#2 breast and arms of silver -Medo-Persian Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

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the third world kingdom was Greece, or Macedonia under Alexander the Great, who conquered
the great Persian Empire 333-330 b.c. But Alexander lived only a short year after his swift
conquest, and his four generals divided his vast empire into four regions:

Macedonia and Greece, Thrace and Western Asia, Syria and territory east to the Indus river,
and Egypt. So these were the [four heads] of the third beast of Daniel 7.


And the fourth kingdom, which, developing from Rome, spread out and gradually absorbed
one after another of these four divisions—“dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly,”
was the Roman Empire (31 b.c. to a.d. 476).

It had absorbed all the others, occupied all their territory, was greater and stronger than all.
It included all the royal splendor of ancient Babylon, thus having the head—the strongest part
—of the lion. It had all the massiveness and numerically powerful army of the Persian Empire
—symbolized by the legs, the most powerful part of the bear. It was the greatest war-making
machine the world had ever seen, and it also possessed the swiftness, the cunning, the cruelty
of Alexander’s army, symbolized by the leopard. And thus, this fourth beast was unlike any
wild beast of the Earth. It was stronger, greater, more terrible, than any.


And so John, in Revelation 13, sees, not four beasts, but one beast.

Not a leopard, but like a leopard—possessing all its cunning, cruelty and speed.
But it also possessed the dominant characteristics of the two other most powerful beasts
—the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. Daniel’s fourth beast, the Roman Empire,
had absorbed and therefore it included the three beasts before it.

Thus it included all seven heads. And John’s beast also has seven heads. It was Daniel’s
fourth beast, only, which had 10 horns, and John’s beast has 10 horns.

And so, if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast” and to let
the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable conclusion that
the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!

Nebuchadnezzar’s image, by the two legs, describes the two divisions of the Roman Empire,
after a.d. 330: West, with capital at Rome, and East, with capital at Constantinople.

John also pictures this beast, not as a church or as an individual man, but as a powerful government
having a great army. For they worshiped the beast by saying, “Who is able to make war with him?”


-the Horns of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 and of the beast of Revelation 13.

The 10 horns symbolize the same thing—10 stages of government continuing out of the Roman
Empire. The 10 horns “out of this kingdom [the fourth—the Roman Empire, 31 b.c. to a.d. 476]
are ten kings that shall arise .

And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven
[not in heaven], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High …” Daniel 7:24, 27

The 10 horns, then, are 10 kingdoms to arise out of the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire.

These kings, also called kingdoms, continue from a.d. 476 until the time when the stone,
Christ and His Kingdom, smashes the image on its toes, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
the kingdoms represented by the horns are successive, not contemporaneous.
 
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The beast in Revelation 13

In the vision he saw “a beast rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw [was like] unto a leopard,
and his feet [were as] the feet of a bear,
and his mouth [as the] mouth of a lion:

and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority”
(Revelation 13:1-2). For this description will help identify the beast.

In Daniel 7, we find exactly these same symbols described.
Here again are the beasts, the seven heads, the 10 horns,
and here also is the lion, the bear and the leopard.

And here in Daniel the Bible tells us what these symbols represent.
God had given Daniel understanding in dreams and visions (Daniel 1:17).
a dream and a vision (Daniel 7:1) in which he saw four great beasts (verse 3)

1In the third year of the reign of (Jehoiakim) king of Judah
came (Nebuchadnezzar) king of (Babylon) unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
2And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels
of the house of God: which he carried into the land of (Shinar)

as in Revelation, the beasts came up out of [the sea].
seas=populations multitudes of people

The first was like a “lion” (verse 4),
the second was like a “bear” (verse 5),
the third like a “leopard” (verse 6),

and the fourth was so dreadful and terrible it could not be compared
to any wild beast known to inhabit the Earth! (verse 7).

-the seven "heads"

Now there was only [one head] described on the lion, [one] for the bear,
[one] for the fourth beast —but the third beast, the leopard, had [four heads]
—thus making seven heads in all!

And out of this great and dreadful fourth beast grew 10 horns!

“These great [beasts], which are four, are [four kings], which shall arise
out of the earth,” is the interpretation of verse 17.

And the word king is synonymous with kingdom, and used only in the sense
that the king represents the kingdom over which he rules, for in verse 23 we read,

“The fourth beast shall be the fourth [kingdom] upon the earth .…” Notice also
the word kingdom is used to explain the beasts in verses 18, 22, 24 and 27.

-the “horns”

“And the ten [horns] out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise .…”

Notice the 10 horns, or 10 succeeding kingdoms or governments,
come out of a kingdom, not out of a man, or a superman. these 10 horns are 10
succeeding kingdoms growing out of the fourth kingdom, which was to rule the Earth!


-Identification of the Kingdoms

These same four world-ruling Gentile kingdoms are described in the second chapter of Daniel.
King Nebuchadnezzar of the Chaldean Empire, who had taken the Jews captive, had a dream,
the meaning of which God revealed to Daniel.

The king saw a great image. Its head was of gold, its breast and arms of silver, its belly
and thighs of brass, its legs of iron and its feet and toes were part iron and part clay.

Finally, a stone, not in men’s hands, but supernaturally, smote the image upon his feet and toes.
It was broken in pieces and was blown away like chaff. Then the stone that smashed it became
a great mountain and filled the whole Earth.

“This,” Daniel says, beginning verse 36, “is the dream;
and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.”


“… Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and
subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise” (verses 38-40).


-the stone smashing the image at its toes is found in the 44th verse:

“And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never
be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces
and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.”

The Stone is Christ and His world-ruling Kingdom. The interpretation of the stone is given many
places in the Bible. “Jesus Christ of Nazareth … is the stone which was set at nought of you
builders, which is become the head of the corner” (Acts 4:10-11).


And so we see that here are four universal world-ruling Gentile kingdoms.
They begin with the Chaldean Empire, which took the Jews captive to Babylon.


-God had promised ancient Israel to be His nation if they obeyed and faithful, they would grow
into a multitude of nations—or an empire—that would dominate the entire Earth.

But, for disobedience they would have to be taken captive by Gentile nations (Leviticus 26 and
other prophecies). Ancient Israel had been tried through the generations and centuries.

They had disobeyed. Now they had been taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar, who had raised up the
world’s first empire. But as God revealed through Daniel in chapter 2, it was God who had turned
world dominion over to this succession of Gentile empires.

-The Beasts

The first was Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom, the Chaldean Empire, called “Babylon”
after the name of its capital city, 625-539 b.c.

37Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven
hath given thee (a kingdom), power, and strength, and glory.

38And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of
the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made (thee ruler over them all).
(Thou) art this head of gold.

#1 head of gold. Chaldean Empire. (626 BC-539 b.c)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire

-
The second kingdom, which followed, then, we know from history, was the Persian Empire,
558-330 b.c., often called Medo-Persia, composed of Medes and Persians.

39And (after thee) shall arise another kingdom (inferior to thee),
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall (bear rule over all the earth).

-Daniel 5 , Belshazzar, Nebuchadnezzars son is now king.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belshazzar

27TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
28PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and (given) to (the Medes and Persians).

31And (Darius) the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Mede

#2 breast and arms of silver -Medo-Persian Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire

-
the third world kingdom was Greece, or Macedonia under Alexander the Great, who conquered
the great Persian Empire 333-330 b.c. But Alexander lived only a short year after his swift
conquest, and his four generals divided his vast empire into four regions:

Macedonia and Greece, Thrace and Western Asia, Syria and territory east to the Indus river,
and Egypt. So these were the [four heads] of the third beast of Daniel 7.


And the fourth kingdom, which, developing from Rome, spread out and gradually absorbed
one after another of these four divisions—“dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly,”
was the Roman Empire (31 b.c. to a.d. 476).

It had absorbed all the others, occupied all their territory, was greater and stronger than all.
It included all the royal splendor of ancient Babylon, thus having the head—the strongest part
—of the lion. It had all the massiveness and numerically powerful army of the Persian Empire
—symbolized by the legs, the most powerful part of the bear. It was the greatest war-making
machine the world had ever seen, and it also possessed the swiftness, the cunning, the cruelty
of Alexander’s army, symbolized by the leopard. And thus, this fourth beast was unlike any
wild beast of the Earth. It was stronger, greater, more terrible, than any.


And so John, in Revelation 13, sees, not four beasts, but one beast.

Not a leopard, but like a leopard—possessing all its cunning, cruelty and speed.
But it also possessed the dominant characteristics of the two other most powerful beasts
—the feet of a bear, and the mouth of a lion. Daniel’s fourth beast, the Roman Empire,
had absorbed and therefore it included the three beasts before it.

Thus it included all seven heads. And John’s beast also has seven heads. It was Daniel’s
fourth beast, only, which had 10 horns, and John’s beast has 10 horns.

And so, if we are willing to be guided solely by the Bible description of this “beast” and to let
the Bible interpret the symbols used to describe it, we come to the inevitable conclusion that
the beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire, of 31 b.c. to a.d. 476!

Nebuchadnezzar’s image, by the two legs, describes the two divisions of the Roman Empire,
after a.d. 330: West, with capital at Rome, and East, with capital at Constantinople.

John also pictures this beast, not as a church or as an individual man, but as a powerful government
having a great army. For they worshiped the beast by saying, “Who is able to make war with him?”


-the Horns of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 and of the beast of Revelation 13.

The 10 horns symbolize the same thing—10 stages of government continuing out of the Roman
Empire. The 10 horns “out of this kingdom [the fourth—the Roman Empire, 31 b.c. to a.d. 476]
are ten kings that shall arise .

And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven
[not in heaven], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High …” Daniel 7:24, 27

The 10 horns, then, are 10 kingdoms to arise out of the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire.

These kings, also called kingdoms, continue from a.d. 476 until the time when the stone,
Christ and His Kingdom, smashes the image on its toes, and the kingdom is given to the saints.
the kingdoms represented by the horns are successive, not contemporaneous.
I just put it in short form.
 

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The Number of the ‘Beast’—666—Whose Number Is It?
Here are all the scriptures speaking directly of this number:

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast,or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six”
(Revelation 13:17-18).

“And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten
the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the
number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God”
(Revelation 15:2).

Note From these scriptures, we have the following definite points:

1. The beast has a number and may be identified, if we have wisdom,
by this number.

2. The number is 666.

3. We are told to count this number—that is, add it up. The same Greek word
is used elsewhere only in Luke 14:28: Count the cost.

4. This number, 666, is the number of the beast. The only Bible interpretation
of this symbol, “beast,” is a kingdom or the king who rules it and, therefore,
really is the kingdom (Daniel 7:17-18, 22-24, 27).

Therefore 666 must be the number of the kingdom, or government, or empire,
as well as that of the king who founds or rules it.

5. The expression “the name of the beast, or the number of his name” makes plain
that the number 666 is the number of the name of the kingdom or empire.

6. The expression “it is the number of a man” shows we must also count this number
in the name of the king, or ruler, over the kingdom identified as the “beast.”

The Beast Is Not the Woman [a church]

In the 17th chapter of Revelation we find a beast, and a woman—a great, wealthy
but fallen woman—who was riding the beast. The Bible describes the symbol “woman”
to mean a church (see 2?Corinthians 11:2; Revelation 19:7; Ephesians 5:22-27).

The beast of Revelation 13 is not the woman who rode the beast
—the beast is the government, and the woman is a church.

The beast of Revelation 13 is the Roman Empire!

This beast had a deadly wound (Revelation 13:3). That means the beast ceased altogether
to exist or function as it had since 31 b.c. Yet its deadly wound was later healed, after which
(verse 5) it continued to exist another 1,260 years!

The Founder of Rome

The founder and first king of Rome was Romulus.
The Roman Empire was named after him.
His name, the name of a man, also is the name of the kingdom.
And every citizen in the kingdom bears the same name—a Roman.

When John wrote this Revelation, telling us to count the number of the beast,
he wrote in the Greek language. Consequently, we should look for this name,
and the number 666, in this language recognized in the Bible, not in the Latin.

We are all familiar with the Roman numerals, where letters are used for numbers.
All understand that I is 1, v is 5, x is 10, etc. But many do not know that the Greek
language, in which the book of Revelation was written, also uses letters for numbers.

In the Greek this name was understood in the second century a.d. to have originally
been spelled Lateinos. It signifies “Latin man” or “the name of Latium,”
from which region the Romans derived their origin and their language.

This word, too, signifies “Roman.” In the Greek, l is 30, a is 1, t is 300, e is 5,
I is 10, n is 50, o is 70, s is 200. Count these figures. They count to exactly 666!

It is indeed no coincidence that the name of the kingdom, its founder and first king,
and of each man in the kingdom, counts to exactly 666!

Certainly the beast stands identified!
 
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He is not be known until the USA is put out of the way as in 2 Thes. 2:7.
 
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The answer to the big three question is, during the three major players were for the west: Great Britain, the USA and Russia. ussia came over to our side after Hitler invaded Russia. It’s all history. France under Gen De Gall wanted it to be the big four but northern France was with us but southern France was with the Germans. Interesting isn’t it.
 
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Am I the on the oniy one that these school born preacher aren’t as smart as they think they are? The old preacher taught preachers were much smarted. They taught the truth of the Word and not all the garbage they are spouting out.
 

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The answer to the big three question is, during the three major players were for the west: Great Britain, the USA and Russia. ussia came over to our side after Hitler invaded Russia. It’s all history. France under Gen De Gall wanted it to be the big four but northern France was with us but southern France was with the Germans. Interesting isn’t it.

IMO pretending there were no Axis powers, only Allies, is a step towards revisionist history, and if you love the number 3, or 2, or 4, or 8, or whatever - you can always whittle down the constraints of a list of N > ((your favorite number)) so that you come up with the tally you want.

how many '
important' ((a relative term)) cards are there in deck when one plays poker, for example?

well i like '12' so i'll say that anything less than a Q is of negligible value, so i can argue for the answer i want to arrive at:

{A♠, K♠, Q♠, A♣, K♣, Q♣, A, K, Q, A, K, Q}

now if you like the number 12 as much as i do, you're never going to question that admittedly bias & shoddy analysis, are you?


 
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IMO pretending there were no Axis powers, only Allies, is a step towards revisionist history, and if you love the number 3, or 2, or 4, or 8, or whatever - you can always whittle down the constraints of a list of N > ((your favorite number)) so that you come up with the tally you want.

how many '
important' ((a relative term)) cards are there in deck when one plays poker, for example?

well i like '12' so i'll say that anything less than a Q is of negligible value, so i can argue for the answer i want to arrive at:

{A♠, K♠, Q♠, A♣, K♣, Q♣, A, K, Q, A, K, Q}

now if you like the number 12 as much as i do, you're never going to question that admittedly bias & shoddy analysis, are you?


are you praying or cursing,I couldn’t tell
 
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Yes, I remember the Axis as well but I was in church and had rather hear the Word then answer you. Sorry! But they were Germany, Italy, Japan, and southern France.
 
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I’m sorry but you are wrong. The beast is made up of all the nations I mentioned at my post. If you read it you’ll learn a lot. The seven heads is what makes up the beast.
 

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are you praying or cursing,I couldn’t tell

i was neither praying or cursing, but if you're set on describing my conversation always as one of these binary descriptors, i suppose human cognition wouldn't have any serious impediment to rationalizing out the desired conclusion, and probably an easier go at it if you predetermine only one outcome to the minds judgement.
 

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I’m sorry but you are wrong. The beast is made up of all the nations I mentioned at my post. If you read it you’ll learn a lot. The seven heads is what makes up the beast.
who is wrong, and wrong about what?

that more than 3 nations were involved in WWII?

or are you talking to Prove-all?

if you quote what you respond to, it helps readers understand who & what you are replying to. when there are multiple respondents & multiple posts, it can be impossible to tell what a person is talking about when they neither quote nor make any other direct reference in their reply.
 
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i was neither praying or cursing, but if you're set on describing my conversation always as one of these binary descriptors, i suppose human cognition wouldn't have any serious impediment to rationalizing out the desired conclusion, and probably an easier go at it if you predetermine only one outcome to the minds judgement.
Your too confusing for me. Nobody uses binary as a word that I know of except those working in the computer field.
 

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Your too confusing for me. Nobody uses binary as a word that I know of except those working in the computer field.
also mathematicians. post is CC's resident mathematician :)

by "
binary" i mean a variable whose domain of possible values has exactly two mutually exclusive elements. in the context of computer science that domain is almost always {0,1}, but mathematically {0,1} can be mapped to an infinite number of sets of cardinality 2 & there's no reason to limit ourselves just to these digits apart from simplifying abstraction.

careful or i'll start posting derivations of theological integral calculus !!

((true story ;)))
 
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also mathematicians. post is CC's resident mathematician :)

by "
binary" i mean a variable whose domain of possible values has exactly two mutually exclusive elements. in the context of computer science that domain is almost always {0,1}, but mathematically {0,1} can be mapped to an infinite number of sets of cardinality 2 & there's no reason to limit ourselves just to these digits apart from simplifying abstraction.

careful or i'll start posting derivations of theological integral calculus !!

((true story ;)))
Now your getting it. Your either a zero or you are a one. Zeros are always zeros but ones multiply.
 

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Now your getting it. Your either a zero or you are a one. Zeros are always zeros but ones multiply.
But multiply by 1 and nothing is changed; everything multiplied by zero takes on all the characteristics of zero, leaving all the old behind.

the opposite is true for ((Cartesian)) addition: it becomes evident quickly that calculations cannot be made before operations are defined, and that context is everything.
 
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Rome is just one of the heads but not the whole beast.
 

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Let me become 0 so that He who is 1 may be added to me, that only He who always was and ever is may remain forever