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Something that I've noticed throughout the bible is that God tests people. Even in the wilderness, when the Hebrews were being brought out of Egypt, God tested them, or proved them.

There are several examples of this, I'll add a few for reference.

Exodus 20:20 And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

Exodus 16:4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.

There are other passages that talk about being tried:

Psalms 11:4 The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
Psalms 26:2 Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart.

My question is this: Do you think that within the written word of God that there are passages or verses that actually test or try us? And how we look at a verse or a passage actually judges our hearts, if there is pride, or denial or rejection, or acceptance or faith and on and on...

Just something I've been thinking about.

What made me consider this are these two passages.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The above verse talks about how God's word discerns the thoughts and intents of our hearts.

And Peter wrote:

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

What are you thoughts on this?
 
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My thoughts might be far off from your question, but I'll try to answer it :)

A test how you would discern the word of God was mentioned in Romans 14. We encounter people here in bible discussion, that we ought to hold to "sabbath" or "everyday alike" for rest. This isn't new, in the early church, Paul touched on a similar bases about food and days of observance that was debated between the Jews and Gentle believers. In Paul's response was that we aren't too judge another, but be aware that we ourselves are judged by our own conscious or conviction according to our faith, which discerns the real intentions of man of why he is doing what he is doing, whether for evil or for good. God made the conscious for a purpose, one of which reveals the inner man response to what's good, of course by the faith which you have. Paul concludes in Romans 14:

"The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not of faith is sin" - Romans 14:22-23 NASB
 
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Bryancampbell said:
My thoughts might be far off from your question, but I'll try to answer it :)

A test how you would discern the word of God was mentioned in Romans 14. We encounter people here in bible discussion, that we ought to hold to "sabbath" or "everyday alike" for rest. This isn't new, in the early church, Paul touched on a similar bases about food and days of observance that was debated between the Jews and Gentle believers. In Paul's response was that we aren't too judge another, but be aware that we ourselves are judged by our own conscious or conviction according to our faith, which discerns the real intentions of man of why he is doing what he is doing, whether for evil or for good. God made the conscious for a purpose, one of which reveals the inner man response to what's good, of course by the faith which you have. Paul concludes in Romans 14:

"The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not of faith is sin" - Romans 14:22-23 NASB
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This doesn't condone evil, nor breaking commandments. Anyone can correct me by this.
 
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Until we are no longer in our earthly tabernacle, there will alwsys be Scriptures to test and try us, because the Holy Spirit (author of Scripture ) works with His Word to mold and shape us by His Word.
 
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Bryancampbell said:
My thoughts might be far off from your question, but I'll try to answer it :)

A test how you would discern the word of God was mentioned in Romans 14. We encounter people here in bible discussion, that we ought to hold to "sabbath" or "everyday alike" for rest. This isn't new, in the early church, Paul touched on a similar bases about food and days of observance that was debated between the Jews and Gentle believers. In Paul's response was that we aren't too judge another, but be aware that we ourselves are judged by our own conscious or conviction according to our faith, which discerns the real intentions of man of why he is doing what he is doing, whether for evil or for good. God made the conscious for a purpose, one of which reveals the inner man response to what's good, of course by the faith which you have. Paul concludes in Romans 14:

"The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not of faith is sin" - Romans 14:22-23 NASB
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That's a great response! It's goes along with what I was thinking. I was leaning more along the lines of how we hear or read the word. You covered how we apply the word to our lives, and how we consider it, whether there is faith involved or not.

It seems that if the Lord is showing us something, and we listen and approve something that is contrary to what God is showing us, that the doubt would convict us.

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.

"Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves." But he who doubts is condemned if he east, because his eating in not from faith; and whatever is not of faith is sin."

That was very edifying.

Thank you
 
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Heb 12 vs 3-8

For consider him that endured such contradictions of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto to youas unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

IF ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

But IF ye be without chastisement, whereof ALL are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons,
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God tests with the Bible the souls of men to prove their need to live by every word that comes from His mouth.
 
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My question is this: Do you think that within the written word of God that there are passages or verses that actually test or try us? And how we look at a verse or a passage actually judges our hearts, if there is pride, or denial or rejection, or acceptance or faith and on and on...
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Yes. This thing is talked about in Revelation 5 and many other places, especially old testament.
 
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