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paulguyer

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I have now herd 2 pastors say that you should love your wife like you love God. I konw what I think. But what do yall think
 
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I have now herd 2 pastors say that you should love your wife like you love God. I konw what I think. But what do yall think
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

 
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Kerry

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Marriage is form of sacrifice. It is not saying that you are my mate forever in this life. You must sacrifice many things to make a marriage work in nowaday times and in history. The human nature is selfish, but how amazing is love, that denies that selfishness because of the want to be with that spouse. It is a direct mirror of how our love of God should be. That is why God is so against divorce. So choose wisely as Solomon would say as to whom you should marry. Look at what he say's is a virtuous woman. If anyone should know it would be him, because he had over 1,000 wives and concubines. what a man!!
 
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Love your wife as Christ loves the church and gave his life for it.

I've been married to 1 wife for 42 years and this really works. I will say this however. All marriages have their problems. If the wife doesn't treat her husband as the scripture says, then it puts the husband in a position that is next to impossible. It doesn't work the other way either. What goes around comes around. Think how Jesus would act if the church said chuck it all and did what they wanted without His word, at least being considered with gravity. This defines the falling away in the last days. I would suppose He would plead with her, but there is a limit that leads to judgment. If Jesus declares that He has reached the limit, as it has happened with Israel, then it is obvious that the church would not be secure in Him. It is very good for the husband and wife to study together how God handled Israel, and why He did what He did in response to Spiritual adultery by Israel serving other gods.

Ephesians 5:22-33 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

1 Corinthians 7:3-6 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
 

iamsoandso

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Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

your wife is the same,,"bone of your bone flesh of your flesh",,,the church (the bride) is also to Christ "bone of my bone flesh of my flesh",,,so then how does Christ love the church? i said this not to add to the scripture you quote(it stands alone being to the point) but because the statement in the scripture should cause us to "ponder the manner Christ loves his wife" in the same chapter he reverses this thinking saying "unto your husband,as unto the lord" we should reverse the same manner of thinking.

Paul an apostle unto the gentiles and chiefly Barnabas had no other "part of the body" to accomplish,it is the work ask that they do. Moses was ask to give the law and to lead the Hebrews from exile. each have their own work in the house that they are ask to do. the scripture says to the wife "submit to your own husbands,,ect."

so husbands hear this,,,if a woman is given this work to practice this in the house of god how is it not as important an work as the mans? is it not so that a woman is the mirror of the church,and she is ask by the lord to preform this? it is a great gift a woman does if she go through these motions before the man's face. whow will a man see the role the church is to preform without an woman as an "help meet fulfilling her role in the body"?

a woman's role in the church is an difficult one that she submits but is no less of a necessity in the whole body of Christ. for each man among us who has an wife we could not stand without the support of the woman the lord gave,so the work the lord gave us to do would fall without our help meet. god has blessed us in the blessing he gave us when he gave us our wives.i have a pocket knife i show to people i say "my girlfriend gave it to me",,at first they are shocked,till they understand my girlfriend is my wife.

women preach your sermon well,that is submit,that they will see the church is to submit to Christ. women preach your sermon well and care for your children so the church will hear you and take care of the members. woman preach your sermon well and never assert your authority over your husband that the church will see not to assert their rendering of doctrine over the authority of Christ. love your husbands as Christ,you are a mirror of the church loving Christ the husband.

without this understanding of the thing you are given to do the weight of the task you are ask to preform in submission would cause you to break. i am a man,as i look in the mirror of you,your task,,,i see even me at times breaking. that is if the woman is the mirror of the church and i am suppose to do the same works,i am at fault. i have to fight back the urge to read mine own desires into the scriptures as i preach,but i must submit and say only the words of my husband.,,,,,you are stronger than me,,for me to see,,,,,,,i am in the midst of loving you,,,
 

starfield

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women preach your sermon well,that is submit,that they will see the church is to submit to Christ. women preach your sermon well and care for your children so the church will hear you and take care of the members. woman preach your sermon well and never assert your authority over your husband that the church will see not to assert their rendering of doctrine over the authority of Christ. love your husbands as Christ,you are a mirror of the church loving Christ the husband.

without this understanding of the thing you are given to do the weight of the task you are ask to preform in submission would cause you to break. i am a man,as i look in the mirror of you,your task,,,i see even me at times breaking. that is if the woman is the mirror of the church and i am suppose to do the same works,i am at fault. i have to fight back the urge to read mine own desires into the scriptures as i preach,but i must submit and say only the words of my husband.,,,,,you are stronger than me,,for me to see,,,,,,,i am in the midst of loving you,,,
No, that is disobedience.
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).

 

iamsoandso

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No, that is disobedience.
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).


it is said "judge not lest thou be judged",,,,,,although you must decide,pass your own judgment on,,recon through it in your own mind ect. whether or not Jesus is the Messiah. many have judged him as not being the Messiah,and many have set in their mind that he is,,,,either way we do judge.

the sermon a woman is given is to preach a sermon that has no words in it. now we can deny that she does not say it if we like but if she does not(and she submits) then we cannot deny that she obeyed and because of her obeying we have her witness.
 

KohenMatt

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No, that is disobedience.
"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Timothy 2:11-12).

I don't believe he's really endorsing that women should be preaching in church. The "sermon" is the life you lead and the ministry you have, whether it is in the home or outside of it. So in whatever form of ministry you do have, "preach your sermon well".

Matthew 5:14-16 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven."


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john832

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I don't believe he's really endorsing that women should be preaching in church. The "sermon" is the life you lead and the ministry you have, whether it is in the home or outside of it. So in whatever form of ministry you do have, "preach your sermon well".

Matthew 5:14-16 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden;15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven."


Matt
I think what he was saying is "let your actions speak louder than your words". Preach the sermon by actions, not by words.

Sorry Matt, I meant to direct this toward Starfield.
 

iamsoandso

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I have three priorities in life...

#1 - God
#2 - Family
#3 - Job
sounds like something I've heard before from another thread but it stated it was a trick question,,,,

put these three things in order of most importance "trick question"

answer; god is the head of my family so there are not three things to put in order so hence,,,,,

(family) and then job
 
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Mammachickadee

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I have now herd 2 pastors say that you should love your wife like you love God. I konw what I think. But what do yall think
I would hope my husband loved God more than me, that way God would keep the man holy instead of the man trying to jump through the hoops that a wife's expectations can put up for him at times.
 

SparkleEyes

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We are to love our wives just as we are to love God, our enemies and our neighbors. Love all at equal levels.

I wonder if the men who have a problem with loving their wives as much as they are supposed to love God have a problem with the equality that is commanded. Is there ego getting in the way? :cool:
 

iamsoandso

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We are to love our wives just as we are to love God, our enemies and our neighbors. Love all at equal levels.

I wonder if the men who have a problem with loving their wives as much as they are supposed to love God have a problem with the equality that is commanded. Is there ego getting in the way? :cool:
yes i tell you this, i have never been unfaithful to my wife. that is if i am unfaithful i have betrayed my wife and i have betrayed my children,,,but also i have betrayed the lord. in one act i can betray them all. what manner of man could in good conscience do this to his wife(make her cry,hurt)? and the same to his own children,make them cry and make them hurt?,,,or and he is the most often family member left out of those effected by those who commit adultery,god. none see that he may cry,or hurt for what they do. never the less he is no less affected in it and as a member of the family he is hurt.

god is love,if i say to the will of god then i must say with my spirits lips,,"body get up and do the works of love",,if god is love what is his will?,,,,what does "will" even mean? "the will of god",,,,john 13;34-35,,,,,,,"a new command i give you",,,,,love one another as i have loved you.

now does this mean "worship one another as if you all were the creators of the creation"???? no,but rather a new command to love one another as he loved us,the same love. here you are wife(temple of god),,,here you are child(temple of god),,,you,whoever you are(the temples of god),,,is Christ not in you? this said if you are the temples of god and he the "lord of host" resides with-in the temple of you,,,i will lay down the fruit's he ask at the temple of god.

if i come to the temple of god at you,and i curse you,i lay evil fruit's at the temple of god. if i hate you and you are the temple of god,i lay evil fruits at the "Temple of god",,,,,how will any have it that i do not worship my god by loving mine wife or the others among whom even are you? is god not in you? and if god be in you how will i not give attendance at the temple and give food and clothes or water?,,,,but what of the love of my heart,will you deny me that i might worship my god who dwells in you and lay UN-limited love at your feet?,,,,,,,,,,,i tell you "i am in the midst of loving you",,,,,,
 

iamsoandso

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sparkleeyes,,,if i say it to you it will be well received. yet it is the same as what you said,to love.,,,but i was not talking to you but the others,,