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silverwind

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i think some people just like to 'tamper' with the demonic, claiming they know how to 'combat' the forces and want to pass on those 'good news' to others not realizing that the more you tamper, the more they(the demons) will swarm around you ;) (just a warning)
 
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VRJ

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This is not about salvation ...but life....

How can anyone receive salvation or life from those who place themselves under a corportation (501c3)? It's time to realize the churches are bending to a Beast system not to God alone. A corporation is a THIRD party people! It's an artificial person that pastors, priests, Mormons, J.W's anyone who is in any type of church structure has to place themselves under. You think God is going to move in a Beast system? You think He can work with a government telling Him the rules? Then they in turn tell you what you need to bend to. When the corporation goes down and you've joined that corporation....what makes a person think they are not part of the Beast system. They have you in a computer system. You better take your name off the list.
 
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AnandaHya

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I think that God can do anything, and I don't dig up dirt about people but seek to understand others and their points of view, its called holding a TWO WAY conversation and actually caring what others believe. I see that many don't really want to communicate but prefer monologues.

Instead of "spiritual warfare" use the terms "human psychology" and I beliefs have not changed but perhaps your understanding of them have.

there is nothing "occult" in my doctrine or theology, its just misunderstood "science" in my viewpoint but you can continue to believe in "spirits" and things and not listen that the BIBLE talks about demons and angels as ENTITIES not "mystical beings"

I'm talking about the NATURAL WORLD and OBSERVABLE Things not mysticism, illusions and lies, but of course its easier to pretend that its all occult and that Jesus did not tell you to learn about the world.

Silverwind PEOPLE don't cast out demons, JESUS and HIS HEAVENLY HOST do another lie people swallow whole, just like the concept of FASTING no one has bothered to answer.

Zone I trust GOD to lead people, not ME or any other HUMAN BEING. that is based on FAITH that GOD will lead HIS CHOSEN. So my words will not change that, but it might help others understand and me understand better God's will in my life.

why post if God has it all under control? what is your motives then, if not to "lead" people?

Mine is to LEARN about the world and how to act and behave in it, but you say that you want to prevent people from being deceived. To me that shows a lack of TRUST in GOD that GOD will prevent them from being deceived and that YOU have to lead them or tell them things?

again do you know what God's fast is?
 
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unclefester

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OK then you and Zone can answer simply what do we do with our lives then?

If we see injustice done, how are we to deal with it? "signs and wonders" are in my opinion just misunderstood science just as many "miracles" that were performed before are also now proven to be just scientific advances that humanity does not understand.

I think you misunderstand the language used. I could use scientific terms instead of religious ones if you prefer but to me they are the same. Knowledge can be used by both sides and there is a spiritual war going on for the minds and souls of humanity.

if you ignore the world and evil around you, it doesn't make it go away. God calls us to DO something about it not just wait around and die.

Evil is allowed to exist in the world when good people seat back and do nothing. Jesus won but why is there still injustice in the world? what does Jesus tells us to do about it?
Ananda.....My responses to any threads here are not meant to call into question anybody's sincerity in their beliefs and their intentions. But the degree of our sincerity is not to be confused with the measure of our faith. I will preface my answer to you first with what we should not do ...... and that is to say that we should not sit silent when we see supposed ministers of God tell a 14 yr.old boy (or anybody else for that matter) that he is possessed by several demons. NOBODY has the God-given authority to make such a claim (although many profess to today) .... and it is this type of ignorance and false speaking that perpetuates the very fear that I speak of. Those who practice such nonsense cannot do so without first creating their "victims" in need of God's deliverance. And believe me.....if one is vulnerable to this gospel of stupidity, they are indeed it's victim. Because of this "doctrine", countless people have been and still are today left in the lurches to agonize and live in the terror that God has forsaken them and abandoned them. Their only "hope" is to believe that "their demons" will in fact be overcome by those who were "given the power by God" to exorcise them. It is through these deceivers that they first hear of their condition and it is through these deceivers (and their message) by which they must be freed. And of course, when their "victory" has been achieved, all the glory and honor belongs to Christ ......who was never the author of such nonsense in the first place. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is beyond disgusting and it is manipulative to the core. It is meant to imprison souls so that others (those chosen by God) might be glorified in the eyes of other men. It is man seeking to be like God.....having all His attributes and authority. Only Christ was given ALL authority. And only through Christ can we become a child of the living God. This is accomplished only by grace through faith in the one whom God has sent.....Jesus the Christ. Faith........not signs and wonders is the mark of a true believer. Injustice and evil has always existed in the world. What are we to do about it ? We are to love our God with all our heart and soul and to love our neighbor as thyself. If we do this, our works will be in accordance with the fruit that is pleasing to God.
 
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AnandaHya

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Does God Exist?

In Six Days - Index

Is Christianity intolerant? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

the above are some websites I am currently studying because some people on this site recommended them to me and they have articles by scientist supporting the Bible. IF anyone cares to learn more on the subject.

The Fast that God wants us to do is the following (much of which you have named when you said "love our neighbor as thyself" Uncle Fester) but this spells it out as written in GOD's words: (God does not call us to NOT EAT as the heathen and others of the world call fasting but to DO GOOD and promote justice)

Isaiah 58:4-9 (New King James Version)

4 Indeed you fast for strife and debate,
And to strike with the fist of wickedness.
You will not fast as you do this day,
To make your voice heard on high.
5 Is it a fast that I have chosen,
A day for a man to afflict his soul?
Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush,
And to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Would you call this a fast,
And an acceptable day to the LORD?
6 “ Is this not the fast that I have chosen:
To loose the bonds of wickedness,
To undo the heavy burdens,
To let the oppressed go free,
And that you break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out;
When you see the naked, that you cover him,
And not hide yourself from your own flesh?
8 Then your light shall break forth like the morning,
Your healing shall spring forth speedily,
And your righteousness shall go before you;
The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
9 Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer;
You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’
 

zone

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i think some people just like to 'tamper' with the demonic, claiming they know how to 'combat' the forces and want to pass on those 'good news' to others not realizing that the more you tamper, the more they(the demons) will swarm around you ;) (just a warning)
didn't paul make that plain?

2 Corinthians 11
Paul and the False Apostles
1 I hope you will put up with a little of my foolishness; but you are already doing that. 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. 5 But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles.” 6 I may not be a trained speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way.

7 Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. 9And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so. 10 As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do! 12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.

13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. (NIV)

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yikes. strange fire.
 

zone

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Mine is to LEARN about the world and how to act and behave in it, but you say that you want to prevent people from being deceived. To me that shows a lack of TRUST in GOD that GOD will prevent them from being deceived and that YOU have to lead them or tell them things?
i don't claim to be a prophetess with miraculous powers who receives visits from angels and channels 'jesus'.

i don't claim extra-biblical revelation.

just trying to expose that junk. whoever receives it receives it: whoever doesn't doesn't.
 
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AnandaHya

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i don't claim to be a prophetess with miraculous powers who receives visits from angels and channels 'jesus'.

i don't claim extra-biblical revelation.

just trying to expose that junk. whoever receives it receives it: whoever doesn't doesn't.
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No you claim to have the ability to discern my heart and tell the world of my motives and question my status as a child of God and tell me on another thread that I practice occult and should not teach high school because evolution is part of the required teaching materials and you like to "warn people" by planting more seeds of darkness in the minds of impressionable youths by reposting identified heretical doctrines without the cooresponding scripture and science to refute the statements making the heretical doctrines and open doors of the mind that the kids would not even have known existed until you posted them. I sure enough was sheltered and kept from such things until I ran across you and your false accusations of my beliefs.

You have yet to deny or clarify your relationship with Paulnsilas, your reposting styles and psychological attacks are very similar and anyone who does not think or agree with you is not part of your "fellowship" of christians and thus not worthy in your eyes of respect or courtesy.

If it was just me I might take it personally but I've received and observed you do it to anyone you find weakness or perceive anything you can nitpick at. Like a shark that follows the trail of blood.

Proverbs 6:17-19 (New King James Version)

17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.




I know my heart and God knows yours.

YouTube - Were You There
 
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AnandaHya

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I'll repost these statements from other threads in case you missed them:

there is a lot of misunderstand and fear about a lot of topics and people should remember that GOD did not give us a spirit of Fear but of POWER, LOVE and Sound MInds. the HOLY Spirit who is within us is GREATER then any power outside.

We don't need others to do what GOD can do for us. We just need faith in the promise of GOD and KNOWLEDGE of God's Holy Word and promises through study of the BIBLE and not regurited words of pastors and people, we need GOD's WORDs in our minds, hearts and souls so that we can worship GOD with our Whole heart body, souls and lives.

Thank you siverwind for this statement, it sums it up bueatifully "Prophets were God's mouthpiece.... Prophesy are God's spoken words. That's all"

we can all speak prophesy into people's lives by telling them "if you invite Jesus in your life as your Lord and Savior and ask for Him to forgive your sins and send the Holy Spirit, then He will, and your life will be forever changed."



and since the request to bring criticism to this thread and not someone else out of respect was ignored by Paulnsilas, I will post my rebuttal of the same claims that Zone seems to be echoing (that I am a false prophetess, blah blah and the other lies she likes to repeat)

Romans 12:3-14 (New King James Version)

Serve God with Spiritual Gifts
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

Behave Like a Christian
9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good. 10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another; 11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; 12 rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer; 13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curs
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According to our measure of faith and grace God has given all His children spiritual gifts, It is evident through your words and your post you have the spiritual gift of knowledge(mostly borrowed and of false doctrines and cut and pasted by other authors but we'll let that go for now) and I will pray that He gives you wisdom and understanding of things beyond what you narrow mindedly perceive is reality.

You're favorite past time seems to be to twist words to fit whatever perverted vision you feel like spouting off today, but I am not offended in that you don't twist my words alone but everyone else's even God's Holy Bible.

the common argument from cessation is that the gift of tongues was to convince the Jews, but they are mistaken. Tongues are a spoken language in the world to spread the Gospel to all corners of the world and tell them about Jesus. the FAKE speaking in tongues you seem to think I believe (which I do NOT) is nothing more than play acting or worse. True speaking in tongues still happen to missionaries in distant countries who do not know the language but will start speaking it fluently to the masses and thus they will believe in the message: Jesus died for your sin on the Cross of calvary and Rose again, if you but believe and call upon Him He will send you His Holy Spirit to live inside your heart.

When you wake up in the morning, do you pray and ask God what you should do with your day?

When you encounter a problem do you pray or do you lean on your own understanding?

I do NOT run around telling people they are demon possessed (or hypocrites as you seem to enjoy doing.)

I pray to God and He casts them out and then I sit with the person and LISTEN. what a novel concept, perhaps you should try it sometime.

you might learn how the forces of darkness attacks every day people, you might hear about how their husband beats them, how their mom is on drugs, how they are pregnant and their boyfriend has abandoned them.

then I give them scripture and reassure that God loves them, and cares about their troubles and encourage them to pray to Him.

I don't see demons around every soup corner.

I see darkness crushing the hopes and dreams of every day people who most are to self righteous and busy telling me that I need medication and be checked into mental insitution to pay attention to.

I hear them crying inside even though they smile and the rest of the world accepts that fake mask.

I simply take the time to LISTEN to their story, which you have obviously already stated that you do not care to hear.

Judge me if you like, but look inside your own heart if you wish to see a hyprocrite and someone who twists scripture so she doesn't have to do anything but be a thorn in my side. I will pray for you, "But you can repent you know. He might have mercy"

or you can stay in your "peaceful life" and continue to ignore the weeping of the people who suffer around you.
 
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AnandaHya

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i don't claim to be a prophetess with miraculous powers who receives visits from angels and channels 'jesus'.

i don't claim extra-biblical revelation.

just trying to expose that junk. whoever receives it receives it: whoever doesn't doesn't.
2 Corinthians 11


15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve. (NIV)

here's an idea: LISTEN TO GOD and DO what HE says to His disciples concerning the Pharisees: TRUST IN HIM and Let VENGEANCE BE HIS.
 
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AnandaHya

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"And not hide yourself from your own flesh? "

Do you guys know what that means? It speaks AGAINST the new age movement and meditation and astral projection and other things.

If you don't know what I'm referring to praise God for protecting you. If you are curious you can google the words but remember that the Bible speaks AGAINST it multiple times. It also speaks against consulting mediums and "psychics" for why would you need them if you have the HOLY SPIRIT living inside of you?

I have seen things that aren't lies and illusions but advance science that can be done through the use of the human body and MIND. People can make themselves transparent and float through demonic powers and they win the hearts and minds of many. I caution God's faithful children to be very wary, for it is not the altar or the meat on the altar but the forces of darkness behind the building of the altar that wars with God. Remember always that HE WHO IS IN US IS STRONGER THAN ANY in the world! For God so loved the world He sent His only Begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins, but we do not rejoice in His death but His RESURRECTION for OUR GOD LIVES and has sent us the Holy Spirit to be our Comforter, Teacher and Guide. Therefore Brethren put on your armor and spread the Gospel to the far ends of the Earth and to the smallest weeping child.


Ephesians 6:10-19 (New King James Version)

The Whole Armor of God


10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,[a] against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— 19 and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel
 
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MarineforGod

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Why did it take until post number 51 for anyone to bring up Ephesians 6? Wouldn't that be the most obvious choice of scripture on this subject? Also, I've had my fair share of this. I continue everyday. As a Marine I will tell you all this. Everyone's warfighting is different and battles aren't won on the field.
 
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NoahsMom

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Everyone's warfighting is different and battles aren't won on the field. AMEN!
 

zone

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Why did it take until post number 51 for anyone to bring up Ephesians 6? Wouldn't that be the most obvious choice of scripture on this subject? Also, I've had my fair share of this. I continue everyday. As a Marine I will tell you all this. Everyone's warfighting is different and battles aren't won on the field.
Eph 6 is regularly misued to justify unbiblical practices.

Eph 6 armour is not meant to be used by Dominionists.

it's all about being in this world, but not of it, the aricles are clearly listed and for what purpose.

without the feet shod with the shoes that carry the gospel, why bother with the armour?

it's about carrying the Gospel....not demon busting.
 
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VRJ

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Why are the feet shod?
 

zone

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Why are the feet shod?

KJV: And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

ESV: and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace. >> NOT WAR.
 
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MarineforGod

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Sometimes you got to bust a few skulls for peace. Look at world history in a couple of different decades. 1861-1865 and 1941-1945
 

zone

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Sometimes you got to bust a few skulls for peace. Look at world history in a couple of different decades. 1861-1865 and 1941-1945
i'm not getting involved in this, since i do not believe in wars in the name of God.

this is between you and the Lord.
 
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AnandaHya

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2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (New King James Version)

4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
 
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AnandaHya

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Eph 6 is regularly misued to justify unbiblical practices.

Eph 6 armour is not meant to be used by Dominionists.

it's all about being in this world, but not of it, the aricles are clearly listed and for what purpose.

without the feet shod with the shoes that carry the gospel, why bother with the armour?

it's about carrying the Gospel....not demon busting.
but zone. it is the GOSPEL that does the demon busting and gets rid of the strongholds of darkness. the focus should be on the MESSAGE not the messenger.