Religion VS. Jesus

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Grace777x70

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Religion is of this world. Jesus is from heaven.

Religion tells us to do. Jesus tells us it is done.

Religion tells us to focus on sin in the flesh in order to modify our behavior. Jesus tells us to focus on Him in the Spirit in order to bring forth the fruit of the Spirit in our lives. ( this one is going to hurt )

Religion says our heart as a believer is evil still. Jesus says our heart as a believer is new and good, with no evil.

Religion is all about the outward and seen. Jesus is all about the inward and unseen.

Religion tries to repair and fix the old creation. Jesus made us a New Creation!

Religion’s yoke is hard work. Jesus said His yoke was easy.

Religion uses fear to manipulate people to act. Jesus’ love compels people to act, with joy!

Religion is proud. Jesus is humble.

Religion says we must continually confess our sins to stay cleansed and righteous. Jesus says our sins have been taken away, past, present and future, and they are no longer being counted against us!

Religion says that sins are being counted against the believer. Jesus says His righteousness is being counted for the believer!

Religion is blind. Jesus gives us new eyes to see the unseen.

Religion is all about the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus is all about His Life in us!

Religion is boring. Jesus is an unexpected journey and adventure!

Religion is an old cell phone where the service has been cancelled. Jesus is a new cell phone with new service!

Religion is insecure. Jesus is confident and secure.

Religion is competitive and envious. Jesus is a rest.

Religion says we must love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength first! Jesus said He first loved us and that we are to believe first that He loves us with all His heart, soul, mind and strength!

Religion thinks itself wise. Jesus thinks Religion is foolish.

Religion is a dead end. Jesus is an open door to endless possibilities!

Religion is man-centered. Jesus is God-centered.

Religion wants to control other men. Jesus wants to set men free to live by Him.

Religion is death. Jesus is Life!

Religion is depressing. Jesus is joy unspeakable and full of glory!

Religion keeps people in a boat that is sinking. Jesus empowers people to walk out of the boat onto the water to Him!

Religion’s gospel is “fear the Lord and obey His commandments!” Jesus’ gospel is “believe on Me and fear not, for I give you my righteousness!”

Religion is about rules to keep. Jesus is about His love to receive.

Religion tries to get people to keep God’s laws so that the people will be righteous. Jesus tries to get people to see that He kept all the laws for them and they need only believe in Him to be righteous.

Religion is bondage. Jesus is freedom!

Religion needs money to exist. Jesus’ life needs no silver or gold to live and prosper!

Religion is mean to you when you do not agree with it. Jesus is kind even to those who nailed His hands and feet.

Religion says to change you must see your sin! Jesus says to change you must look away from your sin and see Him!

Religion is Satan’s tool. Jesus is God’s Son!

Guess who wins in the end! : )

I choose Jesus!!!
 
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WOW what an amazing post!
 
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Heretical!

...but I like it.
 
Grace777x70

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LOL..well Jesus was a heretic and so was Paul..and that guy..what was his name...you know the guy that jump started us to be protestants..anyway..he was real bad!...they wanted to kill him for saying we are saved by grace...imagine that?

FreeNChrist said:
Heretical!

...but I like it.
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Grace777x70 said:
LOL..well Jesus was a heretic and so was Paul..and that guy..what was his name...you know the guy that jump started us to be protestants..anyway..he was real bad!...they wanted to kill him for saying we are saved by grace...imagine that?
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Martin Luther also talked about our over reaction to issues in such a way like a drunken peasant we fall off the other side of the horse.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
LOL..well Jesus was a heretic and so was Paul..and that guy..what was his name...you know the guy that jump started us to be protestants..anyway..he was real bad!...they wanted to kill him for saying we are saved by grace...imagine that?
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Yeah Luther's not a good example for you to use. Then again, maybe it's very appropriate considering the similarities.
 
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religion

noun
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  • the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


    It is clear that the OP does not know what religion means.



 
Grace777x70

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Keep reading down one more in your definition and you will find there is more too it....

re·li·gion

noun
noun: religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
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[TD="class: lr_dct_nyms_ttl"]synonyms:[/TD]
[TD]faith, belief, worship, creed; Moresect, church, cult, denomination
"the freedom to practice their own religion"



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  • a particular system of faith and worship.
    plural noun: religions
    "the world's great religions"


  • a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.




















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  • noun
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  • the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


    It is clear that the OP does not know what religion means.



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The point still remains. Religion in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing.The reality is the early church was a religion based on Christ. no avoiding that fact.

Its not Religion that is bad its how it is used etc. Its not some separate entity from Christ. My point there is true religion based on Christ and the bible and there is false religion. but religion is not a bad word.
 
Grace777x70

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maybe false religion would have been a better word to use then.....but the word religion was also used for a set of rules to live by....kinda like a religious system...as can be seen here in Col 2:21-23

Colossians 2:21-23 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!"
[SUP]22 [/SUP] (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?
[SUP]23 [/SUP] These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

But I think most people understand that there is false religion as can be seen by the differences between that and Jesus.
 
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gotime said:
The point still remains. Religion in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing.The reality is the early church was a religion based on Christ. no avoiding that fact.

Its not Religion that is bad its how it is used etc. Its not some separate entity from Christ. My point there is true religion based on Christ and the bible and there is false religion. but religion is not a bad word.
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Nope it's all bad. God hates religion.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
maybe false religion would have been a better word to use then.....but the word religion was also used for a set of rules to live by....kinda like a religious system...as can be seen here in Col 2:21-23

Colossians 2:21-23 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!"
[SUP]22 [/SUP] (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?
[SUP]23 [/SUP] These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

But I think most people understand that there is false religion as can be seen by the differences between that and Jesus.
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Yes I agree, that is all I was going on about. People think religion is a bad word but it is not. its whether the religion or faith is in Christ and His works or otherwise. what you are referring to in your OP is bad religion.
 
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Martin Luther also talked about our over reaction to issues in such a way like a drunken peasant we fall off the other side of the horse.
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He wasn't talking about over reacting to issues.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Nope it's all bad. God hates religion.
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lol I guess you don't know what religion means. If you believe in God and the word and follow it you have religion weather you like it or not.
 
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gotime said:
lol I guess you don't know what religion means. If you believe in God and the word and follow it you have religion weather you like it or not.
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I know what religion is and I know what it does.
 
Grace777x70

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Your post got me to thinking here about religion and Jesus in the early church and that it was a religion.

I searched throughout the New Testament for religion and Jesus and I couldn't find anywhere were believers called it a religion...but I found one place where an unbeliever called Judaism a "religion".....interesting ..,,I know the world calls Jesus a religion for sure!..Act 25:14-19


gotime said:
The point still remains. Religion in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing.The reality is the early church was a religion based on Christ. no avoiding that fact.

Its not Religion that is bad its how it is used etc. Its not some separate entity from Christ. My point there is true religion based on Christ and the bible and there is false religion. but religion is not a bad word.
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FreeNChrist said:
I know what religion is and I know what it does.
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Ok but just for the record you are not differentiating between true religion and false which means you are misusing the term. But I will leave it there, believe what you will.
 
Grace777x70

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There is a night and day difference between religion and Jesus. He's alive. Jesus said.." I have come to give you life".

John 14:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] "In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Your post got me to thinking here about religion and Jesus in the early church and that it was a religion.

I searched throughout the New Testament for religion and Jesus and I couldn't find anywhere were believers called it a religion...but I found one place where an unbeliever called Judaism a "religion".....interesting ..,,I know the world calls Jesus a religion for sure!..Act 25:14-19
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Religion is really simply a set of beliefs in God, The real question is are those beliefs based on sound bible teachings or not. In the end Religion is just a word describing a concept. The concept is real. Most religion is based on unsound bible teachings or some other teaching.

But there is a true we find it as the teachings of Christ and the apostles and prophets.

Blessings.
 
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I dont not have much time right now, so I'll let Robert Capon speak for me, he does a better job than I would anyways.....


"Religion consists of all the things (believing, behaving, worshiping, sacrificing) the human race has ever thought it had to do to get right with God. About those things, Christianity has only two comments to make. The first is that none of them ever had the least chance of doing the trick: the blood of bulls and goats can never take away sins (see the Epistle to the Hebrews) and no effort of ours to keep the law of God can ever finally succeed (see the Epistle to the Romans). The second is that everything religion tried (and failed) to do has been perfectly done, once and for all, by Jesus in his death and resurrection. For Christians, therefore, the entire religion shop has been closed, boarded up, and forgotten. The church is not in the religion business. It never has been and it never will be, in spite of all the ecclesiastical turkeys through two thousand years who have acted as if religion was their stock in trade. The church, instead, is in the Gospel-proclaiming business. It is not here to bring the world the bad news that God will think kindly about us only after we have gone through certain creedal, liturgical and ethical wickets; it is here to bring the world the Good News that “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the ungodly.” It is here, in short, for no religious purpose at all, only to announce the Gospel of free grace."


 
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