"replacement theology" - what is it?

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KJV1611

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Desertsrose said:

Hi KJV, I've actually been taught both ways, one from a Baptist Church another from a Conservative Charismatic Church. I didn't really know what I believed until I read Ezekiel. Have you read Ezekiel?
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I have read Ezekiel but I'm not sure what in Ezekiel would make you think fleshy Israel is special though, maybe you could bring that up.

I think it's best when we study the bible to start with easy to understand verses from the New Testament first before we move on to the Old Testament. The New Testament brings clarity to some of the more obscure passages in the Old Testament. Basically what I'm saying is that we have to understand the verse below before we start making assumptions about Ezekiel because Ezekiel will never contradict Paul.

Romans 9:6-7 KJV
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
[7] Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

I'm responding to your posts in sections so it's easier to follow.
 
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Those people in Israel right now are not God's people. If they are then they would still be in exile... read the coditions below for Israel to return to the land. Now tell me, does those people in Israel right now meet that requirement?

Leviticus 26:40-42 KJV
If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
[41] And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
[42] Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

I don't have anything against Jews, thery're lost people just like any other lost people.
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Quote "I don't have anything against Jews"...

Quote "I would like to know why you're so supportive of a bunch Palestinian murdering, Jesus hating Jews."


Maybe you need to make up your mind? smh
 
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Quote "I don't have anything against Jews"...

Quote "I would like to know why you're so supportive of a bunch Palestinian murdering, Jesus hating Jews."


Maybe you need to make up your mind? smh
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Why don't you answer the question... why do you support Jews that hate you, hate Jesus and murder Palestinians. Those people in Israel right now that call themselves Jews are not Jews. Did you read any of the verses I posted?
 
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Why don't you answer the question... why do you support Jews that hate you, hate Jesus and murder Palestinians. Those people in Israel right now that call themselves Jews are not Jews. Did you read any of the verses I posted?
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"why do you support Jews that hate you"

Are you being serious right now?! Ive never had a Jew I knew tell me they hate me. This is nonsense,pure and simple.

Quote " hate Jesus "

Romans 11 blinded for a time.


Quote "and murder Palestinians"

Total bull...


Quote "Did you read any of the verses I posted?"

Oh I understand you can twist verses to make yourself seem right,but you aren't.
 
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"why do you support Jews that hate you"

Are you being serious right now?! Ive never had a Jew I knew tell me they hate me. This is nonsense,pure and simple.

Quote " hate Jesus "

Romans 11 blinded for a time.


Quote "and murder Palestinians"

Total bull...


Quote "Did you read any of the verses I posted?"

Oh I understand you can twist verses to make yourself seem right,but you aren't.
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Kayla, no twisting here, this is straight bible verses. 1 Simple question do the Jews in Israel today meet the criteria below?

Leviticus 26:40-42 KJV
If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
[41] And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
[42] Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Kayla, no twisting here, this is straight bible verses. 1 Simple question do the Jews in Israel today meet the criteria below?

Leviticus 26:40-42 KJV
If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
[41] And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
[42] Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
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God has never taken back his promises from the Jews. Israel is that nation that was born in a day. That is where He will return. The land belongs to the Jews no one else.
 
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kaylagrl said:
God has never taken back his promises from the Jews. Israel is that nation that was born in a day. That is where He will return. The land belongs to the Jews no one else.
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So God brought wicked, sinful, unrepentant, Jews back into the land and VIOLATED his own word in Leviticus. I do thank you for finally giving me an answer and no hard feelings, but I just agree with you on this. :)
 
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So God brought wicked, sinful, unrepentant, Jews back into the land and VIOLATED his own word in Leviticus. I do thank you for finally giving me an answer and no hard feelings, but I just agree with you on this. :)
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Did
you say agree? Or doth mine eyes deceive me?
 
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NO lol. Disagree. God never violates his word.
 
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NO lol. Disagree. God never violates his word.
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Ya,I
thought you missed your coffee there. Ah well the OP left the thread a long time ago after stirring up a hornets nest. These threads always end up this way. Thats why I was planning not to post. But I do feel strongly about what I believe. We'll agree to disagree.
 
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God has never taken back his promises from the Jews. Israel is that nation that was born in a day. That is where He will return. The land belongs to the Jews no one else.
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What about the rest of Israel?
 
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The Jews consist of only two tribes. Judah and Benjamin.

What happened to the rest of Israel?
 
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Kayla I would to get your view of this verse. Let no fruit grow on you henceforth and for ever.

Matthew 21:19 KJV
And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
 
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KJV1611 said:
I would like to know why you're so supportive of a bunch Palestinian murdering, Jesus hating Jews.
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I would like to know why your supportive of a bunch of jew killing, jesus hating muslims..
 
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KJV1611 said:
Those people in Israel right now are not God's people. If they are then they would still be in exile... read the coditions below for Israel to return to the land. Now tell me, does those people in Israel right now meet that requirement?

Leviticus 26:40-42 KJV
If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
[41] And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
[42] Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.

I don't have anything against Jews, thery're lost people just like any other lost people.
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Who said they were gods people that were NOT still in exile? They do not even have control of Jerusalem or the temple mount, (which is still in desolation) and they are still in sin.

I think ythe truth about what you believe is really coming to the light.
 
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Quote "I don't have anything against Jews"...

Quote "I would like to know why you're so supportive of a bunch Palestinian murdering, Jesus hating Jews."


Maybe you need to make up your mind? smh
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its amazing, when you can not even back your own words. and they come back to "bite" you..
 
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Why don't you answer the question... why do you support Jews that hate you, hate Jesus and murder Palestinians. Those people in Israel right now that call themselves Jews are not Jews. Did you read any of the verses I posted?
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why do you support muslims, who hate you, Hate Jesus, who would behead you and your family where they stand.

A jew will not kill you for believeing in Jesus, they will not even kill a muslim for being a muslim.

I think you have listened to far to much propoganda.
 
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So God brought wicked, sinful, unrepentant, Jews back into the land and VIOLATED his own word in Leviticus. I do thank you for finally giving me an answer and no hard feelings, but I just agree with you on this. :)
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1. God did not bring them back (your first mistake)
2. God did not restore them (they are not in peace are they?)
3. The temple still lies in ruins

why are you so bent on trying to prove people wrong, instead of listening to what they say.
 
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