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Well, I'd like to help... but I'll be busy attending the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

Those left here will be the carnal Christians who are like the foolish virgins who didn't get it while the gettin was good, so... they'll be on their own and will most likely be forced to choose between faith in Jesus or being able to buy and sell

There are actually some of calvin's preachers (OSAS) teaching that it would be OK to take the mark cause they'll still go to Heaven.... and these folks gonna do just that and go to hell like it says they will in the Book of Revelation.
OMGoodness! Do they really teach that?! That's horrible.
 
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Like my 3rd grade teacher used to say when we were throwing spitwads behind her back and she was looking to make an example out of someone with her big knuckle busting ruler.... "a word to the wise should be sufficient!"

Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
 
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OMGoodness! Do they really teach that?! That's horrible.
I heard recently that John MacAuther is teaching this, and a guy named Jimmy DeYoung who teaches a lot of end times stuff.

Yeah, it's easy to see that satan is definitely influencing these guys.
 
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Like my 3rd grade teacher used to say when we were throwing spitwads behind her back and she was looking to make an example out of someone with her big knuckle busting ruler.... "a word to the wise should be sufficient!"

Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
I would rather lose my head which would only last a second than spend eternity in the lake of fire.
 
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Actually, the sting of death has been removed from those that are in Christ so we wouldn't even feel it.

If it were going to happen, the Lord simply removes your spirit / soul from your body before the event and you'll instantly be with the Lord... as a martyr which brings extra perks in Heaven over those who did not give their lives for the Lord.
 
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Maybe someone can look up and confirm whether it's "in" or "on"?


Rev 14:9:

"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand" (NKJV)

"If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand" (KJV)
Revelation 14:9 ... If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,


The word "in" is the Greek word epi [ἐπὶ], which means on, upon.


The Greek word for "in" is en [ἐν].
 
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technology keeps developing soon rfid technology is history and christians will come up with a new scheme to make money with by selling end times books............ the rfid chip will never be mandatory and no i would not take it i dont want any unnecessary technology in my body.....................
fear mongering like this makes people think christians are dumb, it was barcodes back in the days, then credit cards and now this............. think about this for more than two seconds, what prevents the antichrist to go and inject all christians in the world with this chip and cause them all to be damned????????????? nothing, put people to sleep and chip em and be happy antichrist you just damned everyone............. thats not what its about its so clear............
 

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Would you go for implants such as RFID chips. Or other human enhancement biochips?
I don't like the idea of having an RFID implanted in my body because it seems to be a violation of privacy. However, I don't think it would be a sin to accept the chip itself, provided we are assured that it does not contain the Mark of the Beast.
 
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Revelation 14:9 ... If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The word "in" is the Greek word epi [ἐπὶ], which means on, upon.
The Greek word for "in" is en [ἐν].
Yes and either way... those that take the mark will burn in heLL for all eternity.

A word to the wise should be sufficient in spite of what that foolish man John MacArthur (false teachers) says about it.




I don't like the idea of having an RFID implanted in my body because it seems to be a violation of privacy. However, I don't think it would be a sin to accept the chip itself, provided we are assured that it does not contain the Mark of the Beast.
Yes, of course... if they tell you it doesn't... that's a sure sign they are totally trust worthy and they would never lie about any of this stuff... no, mankind is always very, very truthful and would never engage in deception.
 

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Revelation 14:9 ... If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,


The word "in" is the Greek word epi [ἐπὶ], which means on, upon.


The Greek word for "in" is en [ἐν].
Thanks so much. But now I'm confused. Was that a typo, or do you mean that both are actually translated the same, as in "upon"?

Not sure which websites you all use to check the original text.

I've also wondered if the mark that God put on Cain is the same greek word as the mark in that Revelation scripture, or whether they are different...
 

Ahwatukee

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Thanks so much. But now I'm confused. Was that a typo, or do you mean that both are actually translated the same, as in "upon"?

Not sure which websites you all use to check the original text.

I've also wondered if the mark that God put on Cain is the same greek word as the mark in that Revelation scripture, or whether they are different...
Hi Katy-Follower,

Regarding whether the mark goes "on" or "in" the hand or forehead, the fact that we already have people being implanted with RFID chips under the skin of the hand would support "in." However, it is very possible that this technology may evolve to a device that is smaller and more applicable that could be applied onto the surface of the hand or forehead. But currently we have the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTBJ6OIGkzc
 
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Katy-follower said:
Thanks so much. But now I'm confused. Was that a typo, or do you mean that both are actually translated the same, as in “upon”?
Both are epi [ἐπὶ].



Katy-follower said:
Not sure which websites you all use to check the original text.
Revelation 14:9 Greek Text Analysis




Katy-follower said:
I've also wondered if the mark that God put on Cain is the same greek word as the mark in that Revelation scripture, or whether they are different…
I've also wondered about that also. OT was written in Hebrew. I don't know what Greek word would be used in Gen 4:15.


Genesis 4:15 ... And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
 
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Both are epi [ἐπὶ].




Revelation 14:9 Greek Text Analysis





I've also wondered about that also. OT was written in Hebrew. I don't know what Greek word would be used in Gen 4:15.


Genesis 4:15 ... And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
On looking at our dictionary definition of the word 'upon' It could easily be on the surface or into. They also have RDID chips that go onto the hand and grow into , as in, you put it on like a stick on tattoo, and it will become a permanent fixture in your skin
 
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On looking at our dictionary definition of the word 'upon' It could easily be on the surface or into. They also have RDID chips that go onto the hand and grow into , as in, you put it on like a stick on tattoo, and it will become a permanent fixture in your skin
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ur-skin-into-a-screen/?utm_term=.25e0cc33ef94


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5EDZOmtyt0


This is what the mark will be...it will also be linked to your DNA, eye retina, blood type or other such biological factors to make it counterfeit proof. It will be a mind to machine technology. Think of google in your mind. Perform a "search" for an apple and your forearm will display the search results. Someone will call you and you will answer without hardware...

It will also come in all the latest styles and colors will change colors, etc.

There are alpha/beta tests being conducted in places around the world that test this in remote travel stops. Without the smart skin tattoo, you cannot enter into the store, get food/fuel dispensed and pay for it all on an exit reader by the door.


This is not decades away, the smart skin tattoo is already being used by companies in Europe. Some folks suggest this will be mainstream in less than 5-10 years. There are other things that need to be put into place before this launches widespread.
 
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RickyZ

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Revelation says you must take the mark AND worship the beast. If you only do one or the other are you safe?
 
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Revelation says you must take the mark AND worship the beast. If you only do one or the other are you safe?
If you do either you'd better wax you water skis. You'll need them in the lake of fire. The bible says you must NOT take the mark....
 
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Well, I'd like to help... but I'll be busy attending the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

Those left here will be the carnal Christians who are like the foolish virgins who didn't get it while the gettin was good, so... they'll be on their own and will most likely be forced to choose between faith in Jesus or being able to buy and sell

There are actually some of calvin's preachers (OSAS) teaching that it would be OK to take the mark cause they'll still go to Heaven.... and these folks gonna do just that and go to hell like it says they will in the Book of Revelation.

Pull up their quotes....or links......and there is no split rapture....so...your whole premise misses the mark...