Righteous living - living in a right honorable way
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Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
Eph 6:14
What is being righteous? It is doing the right thing is every situation you find yourself in and not compromising.
The idea is the short cut is not acceptable, it is seeing things in the correct perspective and responding appropriately.
One of the major reasons we find this so hard is fear, anxiety, hurt, lack of experience, lack of love or concern, sin which blocks us seeing basic faults in us and in the situations we face.
Rather than walk out, trying something new, we rely on past experience to dictate our future behaviour. That past experience often comes from sinful actions and attitudes, which then trap us into a future equally restricted.
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Phil 4:8
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
Phil 2:3-4
Righteous acts that encourage
Sons and daughters who dedicate their time to look after parents who are frail and have difficulty coping.
People who visit people and garden for them.
People who visit prisons and those in difficulty on the streets, in hospital.
Young people who go out to work in other countries to help on development projects, medical projects etc
What are things that impress you?
Eph 6:14
What is being righteous? It is doing the right thing is every situation you find yourself in and not compromising.
The idea is the short cut is not acceptable, it is seeing things in the correct perspective and responding appropriately.
One of the major reasons we find this so hard is fear, anxiety, hurt, lack of experience, lack of love or concern, sin which blocks us seeing basic faults in us and in the situations we face.
Rather than walk out, trying something new, we rely on past experience to dictate our future behaviour. That past experience often comes from sinful actions and attitudes, which then trap us into a future equally restricted.
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Phil 4:8
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.
Phil 2:3-4
Righteous acts that encourage
Sons and daughters who dedicate their time to look after parents who are frail and have difficulty coping.
People who visit people and garden for them.
People who visit prisons and those in difficulty on the streets, in hospital.
Young people who go out to work in other countries to help on development projects, medical projects etc
What are things that impress you?
K
We are all legalistic. Name one denomination that doesn't have some sort of law. Denominational beliefs are law. Jesus (+) = legalism.
When I choose to be lead by the spirit to read my bible an hour a day. That is fine. But when I tell you that you must read your bible 1 hour a day. That is legalism.
Kefa
When I choose to be lead by the spirit to read my bible an hour a day. That is fine. But when I tell you that you must read your bible 1 hour a day. That is legalism.
Kefa
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What stops people being righteous?
As soon as you think doing the right thing is somehow to be avoided you have lost the point.
I have never insisted my children go to church. Church is a privilege to meet the Lord in the presence of others. It is a free house with an open door. As soon as this becomes a prison it has lost its point or focus.
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
I was accused of doing this, but I was just being honest about how I felt. I could have miss-understood, I did not intend to hurt or harm, but to give an example of strong words. The funny thing was sharing how I felt was then deemed as a sin.
I share this because it is easy to go from being honest to upset very quickly, it happens in all families.
What Jesus preached was forgiveness. I have been married 20+ years and forgiveness and asking to be forgiven is part of life. These things though are not sin in an obvious way, but are disappointments or splits in fellowship.
One for instance is if I express my love of Jesus, and how love transforms you, is rejected as psychological speak.
There is something wrong here. We are called to have love dwelling in us richly, to be the mark of our lives, to be our daily exercise, to be worthy of the love Jesus gave us, to carry the cross, which is sacrificial love.
So if you feel like this, it is not I you are rejecting, but the work the Lord is doing in your heart.
Right living comes from the wellspring of praise and love for Jesus. If you think this is soppy etc. you are lying to yourself and want a simple cop out. The words are so hard which is why we want a reason to reject them.
Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.
Titus 1:8
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands.
1 John 2:3
Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
1 John 2:10
For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
1 John 3:11
As soon as you think doing the right thing is somehow to be avoided you have lost the point.
I have never insisted my children go to church. Church is a privilege to meet the Lord in the presence of others. It is a free house with an open door. As soon as this becomes a prison it has lost its point or focus.
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
I was accused of doing this, but I was just being honest about how I felt. I could have miss-understood, I did not intend to hurt or harm, but to give an example of strong words. The funny thing was sharing how I felt was then deemed as a sin.
I share this because it is easy to go from being honest to upset very quickly, it happens in all families.
What Jesus preached was forgiveness. I have been married 20+ years and forgiveness and asking to be forgiven is part of life. These things though are not sin in an obvious way, but are disappointments or splits in fellowship.
One for instance is if I express my love of Jesus, and how love transforms you, is rejected as psychological speak.
There is something wrong here. We are called to have love dwelling in us richly, to be the mark of our lives, to be our daily exercise, to be worthy of the love Jesus gave us, to carry the cross, which is sacrificial love.
So if you feel like this, it is not I you are rejecting, but the work the Lord is doing in your heart.
Right living comes from the wellspring of praise and love for Jesus. If you think this is soppy etc. you are lying to yourself and want a simple cop out. The words are so hard which is why we want a reason to reject them.
Rather, he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.
Titus 1:8
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands.
1 John 2:3
Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.
1 John 2:10
For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
1 John 3:11
E
Where do we start?
1. Self righteousness (look good on outside, but inside are ravaging wolves)
2. Lack of love (Love grows cold) where we are so self focused, we love our sin more than we love anyone else
If you think this, you have more problems then any person can handle. Of course I do not know ANYONE who teaches or thinks doing good must be avoided.
Yes. I agree, we love because God loved us first (God is the one working in our heart)
Again yes, We love because God loved us first.
Wd do not love because we are told to. We love because we have faith in God. and his way.. Faith and love is the outpouring of Gods love and grace, And it WILL live righteously (not perfectly)
1. Self righteousness (look good on outside, but inside are ravaging wolves)
2. Lack of love (Love grows cold) where we are so self focused, we love our sin more than we love anyone else
If you think this, you have more problems then any person can handle. Of course I do not know ANYONE who teaches or thinks doing good must be avoided.
Yes. I agree, we love because God loved us first (God is the one working in our heart)
Again yes, We love because God loved us first.
Wd do not love because we are told to. We love because we have faith in God. and his way.. Faith and love is the outpouring of Gods love and grace, And it WILL live righteously (not perfectly)
We love because he first loved us.
1 John 4:19
You could expand on this, and also say everything comes through this verse.
We are created beings. He planted love in our very nature, in who we are, in what we are born into.
Before we were made, he loved us. While we grew in sin and knowledge he loved us.
But people restrict this love, as if only christians love, because it is in knowing Jesus and the cross that we understand love.
This is clearly not true. From the day we are born, love is in us as we bond with our mothers. This is the safe place we curl up in as children.
I know many reading this will be in denial about this idea. There childhood was such a difficult place and to go back there feels painful. I understand this, but within every human, their heart is to say this is a safe place.
One massive problem is resolving this love with actual hurt and experience of family life, and not shut out this love.
People go through life only partly alive because we need to let this love out, to forgive, to accept it is ok to love our mum and dad in their weakness and frailty. We would not exist literally without them, and that debt is eternal.
The 5th commandment is there for this reason, and others, but this is very important.
Honor your father and your mother.
Exodus 20:12
It is important for your mental and spiritual health. God is our ultimate Father, and shutting out that within us that honours our parents shuts out God as well.
So this is one problem in growing in the Lord.
1 John 4:19
You could expand on this, and also say everything comes through this verse.
We are created beings. He planted love in our very nature, in who we are, in what we are born into.
Before we were made, he loved us. While we grew in sin and knowledge he loved us.
But people restrict this love, as if only christians love, because it is in knowing Jesus and the cross that we understand love.
This is clearly not true. From the day we are born, love is in us as we bond with our mothers. This is the safe place we curl up in as children.
I know many reading this will be in denial about this idea. There childhood was such a difficult place and to go back there feels painful. I understand this, but within every human, their heart is to say this is a safe place.
One massive problem is resolving this love with actual hurt and experience of family life, and not shut out this love.
People go through life only partly alive because we need to let this love out, to forgive, to accept it is ok to love our mum and dad in their weakness and frailty. We would not exist literally without them, and that debt is eternal.
The 5th commandment is there for this reason, and others, but this is very important.
Honor your father and your mother.
Exodus 20:12
It is important for your mental and spiritual health. God is our ultimate Father, and shutting out that within us that honours our parents shuts out God as well.
So this is one problem in growing in the Lord.
We love because we love
Tell me how many children do you have to command to love football, american football, baseball etc.
No these things just grow.
So why do I love God? Because of who He is, His nature, His deeds, His beauty, the wonder of existance around us.
I also love him because he forgave me and washed me clean and built me up in His kingdom so I can be alive.
Some want one phrase, a box, and then you are finished. Ever seen a dad or mum talk about their child, or something they love. It flows until all you can say is stop, enough, yep, you really really love them.
Three people at least said the way I expressed my love of God was wrong, unbiblical. Now anyone, anyone who says this has not been in love, because it does not honour limitations or boxes, it overwhelms them. Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven is like a very small seed but grows into this vast tree.
Would I let Pilot put me to death and not defend myself? Would I talk about small items, while in front of sinful men who deserve being judged and blasted off the face of the earth?
So if your emotional life has been tied down, does not saw with the eagle, or weep with the broken, you have just glimpsed the wonder of Gods heart. If I felt all He felt I would break, I could not cope.
Without this emotional reality, it is hard to be righteous, because it appears like a cardboard box, empty and rigid, when it is life itself, the creator of the universe communing with man. Ofcourse mostly it is peaceful plodding, but everything is still packaged and part of the praise of my heart and every believers heart.
Tell me how many children do you have to command to love football, american football, baseball etc.
No these things just grow.
So why do I love God? Because of who He is, His nature, His deeds, His beauty, the wonder of existance around us.
I also love him because he forgave me and washed me clean and built me up in His kingdom so I can be alive.
Some want one phrase, a box, and then you are finished. Ever seen a dad or mum talk about their child, or something they love. It flows until all you can say is stop, enough, yep, you really really love them.
Three people at least said the way I expressed my love of God was wrong, unbiblical. Now anyone, anyone who says this has not been in love, because it does not honour limitations or boxes, it overwhelms them. Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven is like a very small seed but grows into this vast tree.
Would I let Pilot put me to death and not defend myself? Would I talk about small items, while in front of sinful men who deserve being judged and blasted off the face of the earth?
So if your emotional life has been tied down, does not saw with the eagle, or weep with the broken, you have just glimpsed the wonder of Gods heart. If I felt all He felt I would break, I could not cope.
Without this emotional reality, it is hard to be righteous, because it appears like a cardboard box, empty and rigid, when it is life itself, the creator of the universe communing with man. Ofcourse mostly it is peaceful plodding, but everything is still packaged and part of the praise of my heart and every believers heart.