Sabbath

[valiant]

Hi JaumeJ,

Absolutely, God only holds us accountable for what we know not what we do not know. That is why I mentioned earlier KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN. (PS caps not shouting only highlighting). Our duty of LOVE to God and our neighbor is to share God's Word so that those that do not know may know.

Some scriptures that are important..........

Acts 17
30, And the TIMES OF IGNORANCE GOD WINKS AT; BUT NOW <When a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH comes> COMMANDS ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT:
31, Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

and again...............

James 4
17, THEREFORE TO HIM THE KNOWS TO DO GOOD AND DOES IT NOT TO HIM IT IS SIN.

We are God's people if we are living up to all the light (truth) God has revealed to us and if God has given each of us a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH we are accountable to God not only for the truth God has revealed to us but also what it is we do with the truth God has given to us.

When a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH is shared with someone however and they do not BELIEVE it or ACCEPT it they are NO Longer a BELIEVER because they hare not BELIEVED the Word of God therefore are still in their SINS because they have NOT accepted the GIFT of God's dear son and these scriptures are now a WARNING........

Hebrews 10:26-27
26, For IF WE SIN WILLFULLY AFTER THAT WE RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

You are correct many do not know that the Roman Catholic Church has changed God's 4th commandment from the 7th day of the week to Sunday the 1st day of the Week.

Those that God has revealed his truth have a duty of LOVE to our neighbor to help them come out of darkness to worship our God in Spirit and in truth. For God is a Spirit and those that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.

If God gives us a knowledge of His truth he commands us to follow him who loves all and preach the Gospel (the Word) and knowledge of the truth that God has given us to all people because SIN will keep everyone who is knowingly practicing it out of God's Kingdom.

We are to follow him who loves all..........

Matthew 4
17, From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. His command to us.............

Mark 16:15
“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.'”

Matthew 24:14
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.”

Psalms 96:3
“Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

Revelation 14:6-7
“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, ‘Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.'”

Matthew 28:19-20
“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Our duty of LOVE to God and MAN.................

Ezekiel 3
17, Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, AND GIVE WARNING FROM ME.
18, WHEN I SAY TO THE WICKED (SINNERS) YOU SHALT SURELY DIE; and YOU GIVE HIM NO WARNING, OR SPEAK TO WARN TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WICKED WAY, TO SAVE HIS LIFE; THE SAME WICKED MAN SHALL DIE IN HIS SIN; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND
19, Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20, Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21, Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, BECAUSE HE IS WARNED; also thou hast delivered thy soul.Our duty of Love to our fellow man is to share God's Word in the POWER of HIS Spirit who God gives to those who OBEY Him (Acts 5:32) to prepare a people where our God can look down from Heaven in LOVE before His return and proclaim..........

Revelations 14:12
12, Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and the faith of Jesus.We are held accountable to the light (truth) that God has given us and by His Grace in LOVE through the POWER of His Spirit working through us and need to let our light shine to those that are in darkness.Many are called but few are chosen and will come to the light because men love darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil. God's sheep however will hear his voice because they know the true Shepard (the Word)and when He calls they will follow.

Happy Sabbath to all and may God bless you in LOVE and PEACE....

LOL and not a single word from the New Testament which tells us to observe the seventh day?

 

[JaumeJ]

What is totally alarming for me is whenindividuals come into the forum declaring God changed the Seventh day to the first. It does not concrn me how they word it, it simply is not true. A more concise description is, it is a lie, because it appears nowhere in the Word.

Complicating and multiplying the error of men from Constantine's antisemetic ways is how the Sabbath of God has come to mean the day people go to church. People are free to worhip any day of the week, and we who believe actually do worship seven days a week, whether it be formal our simply our souls in praise and worship.

Yahweh gave us the Seventh Day as a gift, holy and awesome. God bless you. All love in Yeshua...

Hi JaumeJ,

Absolutely, God only holds us accountable for what we know not what we do not know. That is why I mentioned earlier KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN. (PS caps not shouting only highlighting). Our duty of LOVE to God and our neighbor is to share God's Word so that those that do not know may know.

Some scriptures that are important..........

Acts 17
30, And the TIMES OF IGNORANCE GOD WINKS AT; BUT NOW <When a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH comes> COMMANDS ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT:
31, Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

and again...............

James 4
17, THEREFORE TO HIM THE KNOWS TO DO GOOD AND DOES IT NOT TO HIM IT IS SIN.

We are God's people if we are living up to all the light (truth) God has revealed to us and if God has given each of us a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH we are accountable to God not only for the truth God has revealed to us but also what it is we do with the truth God has given to us.

When a KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH is shared with someone however and they do not BELIEVE it or ACCEPT it they are NO Longer a BELIEVER because they hare not BELIEVED the Word of God therefore are still in their SINS because they have NOT accepted the GIFT of God's dear son and these scriptures are now a WARNING........

Hebrews 10:26-27
26, For IF WE SIN WILLFULLY AFTER THAT WE RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

You are correct many do not know that the Roman Catholic Church has changed God's 4th commandment from the 7th day of the week to Sunday the 1st day of the Week.

Those that God has revealed his truth have a duty of LOVE to our neighbor to help them come out of darkness to worship our God in Spirit and in truth. For God is a Spirit and those that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.

If God gives us a knowledge of His truth he commands us to follow him who loves all and preach the Gospel (the Word) and knowledge of the truth that God has given us to all people because SIN will keep everyone who is knowingly practicing it out of God's Kingdom.

We are to follow him who loves all..........

Matthew 4
17, From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. His command to us.............

Mark 16:15
“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.'”

Matthew 24:14
“And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.”

Psalms 96:3
“Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.”

Revelation 14:6-7
“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, ‘Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.'”

Matthew 28:19-20
“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Our duty of LOVE to God and MAN.................

Ezekiel 3
17, Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, AND GIVE WARNING FROM ME.
18, WHEN I SAY TO THE WICKED (SINNERS) YOU SHALT SURELY DIE; and YOU GIVE HIM NO WARNING, OR SPEAK TO WARN TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WICKED WAY, TO SAVE HIS LIFE; THE SAME WICKED MAN SHALL DIE IN HIS SIN; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND
19, Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20, Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21, Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, BECAUSE HE IS WARNED; also thou hast delivered thy soul.Our duty of Love to our fellow man is to share God's Word in the POWER of HIS Spirit who God gives to those who OBEY Him (Acts 5:32) to prepare a people where our God can look down from Heaven in LOVE before His return and proclaim..........

Revelations 14:12
12, Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and the faith of Jesus.We are held accountable to the light (truth) that God has given us and by His Grace in LOVE through the POWER of His Spirit working through us and need to let our light shine to those that are in darkness.Many are called but few are chosen and will come to the light because men love darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil. God's sheep however will hear his voice because they know the true Shepard (the Word)and when He calls they will follow.

Happy Sabbath to all and may God bless you in LOVE and PEACE....

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."[/FONT]

 

[JaumeJ]

Ya gotta love it when believers read the Word and share it with understanding.....cannot rep Yeshua in you yet.....so you are owed.

Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong?


Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”





Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

 

[LoveGodForever]

LOL and not a single word from the New Testament which tells us to observe the seventh day?

You got it mixed up. There is not a single scripture that says that God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are not commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Here are some of the many scriptures of the 4th commandment in the NT that you may have missed.....

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

Also you may want to consider these...........

God's Law (10 commandments) in the New Testament

1 You shall have no other gods before Me.
It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve. (Luke 4:8; Matthew 4:10; Revelation 14:7)

2 You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24; Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9; Ephesians 5:5; 1 Peter 4:3; 1 John 5:21; Revelation 2:14)

3 You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.
(1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7)

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. (Mark 2:27-28, Hebrews 4; Matthew 12:8; Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56(Mark 2:28; Matthew 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelations 1:10 Is binding on all mankind today COL 2:14-17 THE REAL TRUTH THREAD (Linked)

5 Honour your father and mother.
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. (Ephesians 6:1; Colossians 3:20; Matthew 15:4; Matthew 19:19)

6 You shall not murder.
I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. (Matthew 5:44-45; Matt. 5:21-26; Romans 13:9; 1 Timothy 1:9; 1 John 3:15; James 2:11; Matthew 19:18)

7 You shall not commit adultery.
I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. (Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4, James 2:11, Matthew 19:19, Romans 13:9)

8 You shall not steal.
Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28, Romans 13:9, Matthew 19:18)

9 You shall not bear false witness.
For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. (Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Col. 3:9; Matthew 19:18, Romans 13:9)

10 You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.
Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses. (Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5, Romans 13:9)

Now we haven't even started talking yet about all the scriptures talking about the 10 commandments of which the 4th commandment is one of the ten yet have we? There is so many scriptures I am surprised you missed them....

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?


May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[JaumeJ]

No one csn say you are not thorough! Well, some will say just about anything..

You got it mixed up. There is not a single scripture that says that God's 4th commandment is ABOLISHED and we are not commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Here are some of the many scriptures of the 4th commandment in the NT that you may have missed.....

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Rev 14:12; Rev 22:14; Eze 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matt 16:24; 1 Cor 11:1; Eph 5:1-21; Pet 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Rev 1:10)

Also you may want to consider these...........

God's Law (10 commandments) in the New Testament

1 You shall have no other gods before Me.
It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve. (Luke 4:8; Matthew 4:10; Revelation 14:7)

2 You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24; Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9; Ephesians 5:5; 1 Peter 4:3; 1 John 5:21; Revelation 2:14)

3 You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.
(1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7)

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. (Mark 2:27-28, Hebrews 4; Matthew 12:8; Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56(Mark 2:28; Matthew 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; 1 Peter 2:20-22; Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelations 1:10 Is binding on all mankind today COL 2:14-17 THE REAL TRUTH THREAD (Linked)

5 Honour your father and mother.
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. (Ephesians 6:1; Colossians 3:20; Matthew 15:4; Matthew 19:19)

6 You shall not murder.
I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. (Matthew 5:44-45; Matt. 5:21-26; Romans 13:9; 1 Timothy 1:9; 1 John 3:15; James 2:11; Matthew 19:18)

7 You shall not commit adultery.
I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. (Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4, James 2:11, Matthew 19:19, Romans 13:9)

8 You shall not steal.
Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom. (1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28, Romans 13:9, Matthew 19:18)

9 You shall not bear false witness.
For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. (Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Col. 3:9; Matthew 19:18, Romans 13:9)

10 You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.
Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses. (Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5, Romans 13:9)

Now we haven't even started talking yet about all the scriptures talking about the 10 commandments of which the 4th commandment is one of the ten yet have we? There is so many scriptures I am surprised you missed them....

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?


May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[phil36]

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Hi lovegodforever,


What is the New Covenant?

 

[MattforJesus]

Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong?


Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”





Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

That does not mean that the physical day sabbath is valid,but that the Jews are going by the sabbath.

And that is because Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to them,and so all Israel shall be saved physically on earth,where God will put an end to Gentile governments.

When the abomination of desolation happens the Gentiles still have salvation available to them,so Israel is still blinded in part,and Jesus tells them to pray that certain conditions are not there that would cause a hindrance to them getting out of dodge as fast as they can.

The King does not want us to observe the physical sabbath anymore.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.

It is a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit in the New Testament,and that is our rest,not a physical day of rest anymore.

But Israel at the time of the abomination of desolation is observing the physical sabbath for the most part,and it could slow them down from running away for those who acknowledge Jesus,for the man of sin will persecute all who hold the testimony of Jesus,not that Jesus approves of the physical sabbath in the New Testament,but Israel is blinded in part.

When the world follow the man of sin,and takes the mark,then salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and God will turn Israel to the truth.

We do not follow a physical sabbath being spiritual,but a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit,but Israel as a nation is not in the truth when the abomination of desolation happens,so they observe the sabbath,not that Jesus is saying observe the physical sabbath.

 

[Hizikyah]

That does not mean that the physical day sabbath is valid,but that the Jews are going by the sabbath.

And that is because Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to them,and so all Israel shall be saved physically on earth,where God will put an end to Gentile governments.

When the abomination of desolation happens the Gentiles still have salvation available to them,so Israel is still blinded in part,and Jesus tells them to pray that certain conditions are not there that would cause a hindrance to them getting out of dodge as fast as they can.

The King does not want us to observe the physical sabbath anymore.

Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God.

It is a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit in the New Testament,and that is our rest,not a physical day of rest anymore.

But Israel at the time of the abomination of desolation is observing the physical sabbath for the most part,and it could slow them down from running away for those who acknowledge Jesus,for the man of sin will persecute all who hold the testimony of Jesus,not that Jesus approves of the physical sabbath in the New Testament,but Israel is blinded in part.

When the world follow the man of sin,and takes the mark,then salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and God will turn Israel to the truth.

We do not follow a physical sabbath being spiritual,but a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit,but Israel as a nation is not in the truth when the abomination of desolation happens,so they observe the sabbath,not that Jesus is saying observe the physical sabbath.

What does the 7th day Sabbath have to do with Jews?

Is is for Hebrews and Gentiles, and always has been;

Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to יהוה speak, saying, ‘יהוה has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said יהוה, “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to יהוה, to serve Him, and to love the Name of יהוה, to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

 

[Hizikyah]

It is a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit in the New Testament,and that is our rest,not a physical day of rest anymore.

2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, “Clear evidence of the righteous judgment of יהוה, in order for you to be counted worthy of the reign of יהוה, for which you also suffer, since יהוה shall rightly repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give you who are afflicted rest with us when the Master יהושע is revealed from heaven with His mighty messengers, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know יהוה, and on those who do not obey the Good News of our Master יהושע Messiah, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Master and from the esteem of His strength, when He comes to be esteemed in His set-apart ones and to be admired among all those who believe in that Day, because our witness to you was believed.”

2 Peter 3:8, “But, beloved ones, let not this one matter be hidden from you: that with יהוה one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

Hosheyah 6:1-3, “Come, and let us turn back to יהוה. For He has torn but He does heal us, He has stricken but He binds us up. After two days He shall revive us, on the third day He shall raise us up, so that we live before Him. So let us know, let us pursue to know יהוה. His going forth is as certain as the morning. And He comes to us like the rain, like the latter rain watering the earth.”

Rev 20:4-6, "And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to יהושע and because of the Word of Ylohim, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection. Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of YHWH and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years."

For Messiah said:

Matt 11:27-30, "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father. And no one fully knows the Son except the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father, except the Son and those whom YHWH wills the Son to reveal. Come to Me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you, and learn of Me; for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light"

The real rest is this:

Revelation 14:13, "And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Messiah from now on! Yes, says the Spirit: because they will rest from their labors, and their works do follow them!"

Revelation 21:4-8 And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away. And He Who sat upon the throne, said: Behold, I make all things new. And He said to me: Write, for these words are true and faithful.And He said to me: It is done! I am Aleph and Tau, the Beginning and the End. I will give to him who thirsts of the fountain of the water of life freely. He who overcomes will inherit all things; and I will be his Father, and he will be My son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and worshipers of false gods, and all liars, will have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone--which is the second death."

2 Timothy 2:15, “Do your utmost to present yourself approved to Yah, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the Word of Truth.”

 

[JaumeJ]

When are some believers ever going to realize a Jew is only from the tribe of Judah, or by the translation of what the word means, a praiser of Yah (God) which is all who believe Jesus.

Now Israel is all Twelve tribes, or eleven plus the two half-tribes.

Hebrews are all who are from across the River.

Now if one reads and perceives, he will find all who believe are indeed Jews, Israelites, and Hebrews, but one must perceve this by tru understanding.

Now Judaism, this is another story. It began cropping up before Jesus after the dissolution of the Israel of Twelve Tribes.

Jesus had contenders on truth from the Pharisees, and also from the Successes. These were teh already present apostetic bodies to be followed by the orthodox, the reform the chasidiic and many more sects not truly of the Word but based on rabbinical teachings, traditions of men.

One mayi safely catagorize Judism with all of its ects with Christianity and al of its sects for Jesus, Yeshua, is not called by one of these denominations or sects.

All who believe, though all are not aware of this, are of the faith of Abraham as Jesus teaches, and children of Abraham. On being chidren of Abraham it may help to know Abraham may be translated as father of (the) nations. If you cannot accept the first part of this post you probably cannot accept the latter either.

God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and all who hear him clearly, amen

 

[LoveGodForever]

Hello MFJ

I will just comment on some of your post as most of the scripture does not apply to your post so there is no need to comment on those.

That does not mean that the physical day sabbath is valid,but that the Jews are going by the sabbath.

And that is because Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to them,and so all Israel shall be saved physically on earth,where God will put an end to Gentile governments. When the abomination of desolation happens the Gentiles still have salvation available to them,so Israel is still blinded in part,and Jesus tells them to pray that certain conditions are not there that would cause a hindrance to them getting out of dodge as fast as they can. [/QUOTE]

Well that just seems like a lot of man made teaching to me. None of the scriptures you quoted agree with what you have presented above.

The King does not want us to observe the physical sabbath anymore.
It is a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit in the New Testament,and that is our rest,not a physical day of rest anymore.

Well that is not true at all please read post # 4185 above (linked) and we haven't even started talking about all the scripture in the NT alone that is talking about God's 10 commandments which the 4th is one of the ten.

But Israel at the time of the abomination of desolation is observing the physical sabbath for the most part,and it could slow them down from running away for those who acknowledge Jesus,for the man of sin will persecute all who hold the testimony of Jesus,not that Jesus approves of the physical sabbath in the New Testament,but Israel is blinded in part. When the world follow the man of sin,and takes the mark,then salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and God will turn Israel to the truth. We do not follow a physical sabbath being spiritual,but a spiritual sabbath by the Spirit,but Israel as a nation is not in the truth when the abomination of desolation happens,so they observe the sabbath,not that Jesus is saying observe the physical sabbath.

This is just your interpretation of with no scripture to support your argument. I will post again on the abomination of desolation using scripture next post too long here.......

Other posts to come.........

 

[LoveGodForever]

Col 2:14 Blotting out the HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES (GREEK; DOGMA)that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments CONTAINED IN ORDINANCES (GREEK DOGMA); for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Colossians 2:14-17,
14, Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15, And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath(s): 17, which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Colossians 2:14
Let’s start with the context of Colossians 2:16-17. The context is verse 14 which is the blotting out (G1813; ἐξαλείφω; exaleiphō; ex-al-i'-fo; means to obliterate; erase; wipe away) the handwriting of ordinances which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way nailing it to the cross.

The next question we need to consider is what is the handwriting of ordinances that are to be erased and nailed to the cross?

The Greek words used here is handwriting G5498 χειρόγραφον; cheirographon; which means; hand written legal document which is combined with ordinance G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; which means; civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical law: - decree;

The Greek meaning of handwriting of ordinances in V14 is a hand written legal document or book of civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws. These are the laws referred to in verse 14 that have been erased and are nailed to the cross.

What is the legal written document or book (handwriting of ordinances) that includes the civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws referring to?

There was two sets of laws that were given to God’s people in the Old Testament scriptures.

(1) God’s Law (10 commandments) pointed out what sin was and the penalty of sin which is death. It was never a cure for sin in the Old Testament as well as in the New. It only gives a knowledge of what sin is and righteousness (right doing) (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23; Ps 119:172).

(2) The laws of Moses was the second set of laws and included all the civil, ceremonial, and ecclesiastical laws. These laws could not tell you what sin was this was the job of God’s Law, however the laws of Moses were the prescriptive cure for sin in the Old Covenant. These laws included all the Levitical and ceremonial laws, sacrificial burnt offerings for sin, annual festivals and earthly sanctuary services for sin. These laws were the cure for sin so the sinner could be made right with God. These where all prophetic in nature, teaching the plan of salvation which pointing to Jesus as the true lamb of God and our great high priest and His Work on our behalf in the Heavenly Sanctuary. (Leviticus 1; 3-12; 14-17; 22-23; Number 6-8; 15; 28-29; Deut 12; 33; Ex 25:8; John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28)

From the above it can be seen that God’s Law was written on stone and the laws of Moses in a book. God’s Law is forever and only points out what sin is but was never a cure for sin (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23).

The laws of Moses included all the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws that were the cure for sin with all the sin offerings and earthly Sanctuary services, annual festivals and sin offerings which were prophetic in nature and temporary pointing to the life, death, resurrection of Jesus and his role as the true lamb of God and your great high priest to atone for our sins (John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28). The handwriting of ordinances (ceremonial laws and ordinances written in a book) is referring to the ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses which included the Jewish annual festivals and sin offerings that pointed to Jesus.

Why were the ceremonial laws of Moses (handwriting of ordinances) nailed to the cross?

Jesus was our true sacrifice for our sins and the saviour of the world that the ceremonial laws of Moses all pointed to. When Jesus came and died the old Covenant laws of Moses that pointed to Jesus and the plan of salvation was fulfilled (John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28). Jesus is our true Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and our sacrifice for our sins. It is our sins as well as the ceremonial laws of Moses that were nailed to the cross at the death of Jesus (Col 2:14; John 3:16).

Colossians 2:14 is the context of Colossians 2:16-17. The context is that all the ceremonial laws of Moses pointing to the plan of salvation and Jesus have been fulfilled and nailed to the cross and along with our sins, if we accept Jesus as our true Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world (John 1:29). We are no longer under the Old Covenant laws of Moses. These do not include God’s Law which is forever (Ecc 3:14).

Now we have looked at the context of Colossians 2:16-17 by looking at verse 14 above and we know what it actually is that it is the ceremonial laws and sin offerings that are nailed to the cross along with our sins, let’s look at Colossians 2:16-17.

Colossians 2:16-17
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath day(s): 17, which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Here is the actual Greek to English translation of Col 2:16-17 verses from the interlinear:

16 Not therefore anyone you let judge in regards to food or in regards to drink or in regards to a feast (or festival) or a new moon or Sabbath(s). 17 which are a shadow of things coming but body

In Col 2:16 the word rendered "holy-day" - ἑορτὴ heortē - in the Greek means a "feast" or "festival;"
Now, notice the key context within Col 2:16-17; No one is to judge you in regards to meat or drink, a feast or festival, or of the New Moon or of sabbath(s).

The Greek word for sabbath used in Col 2:16 G4521; σάββατο; is sabbaton which means to cease from secular labor, stop work, rest. It does not necessarily need to refer to the 7th Day Sabbath commandment. In Leviticus Chapter 23, there is special days within the Jewish annual festivals which are called a Holy convocation. There are special days that can fall on any day of the week. They are not a regular weekly 7th day Sabbath according to God’s Law (Ex 20:8-11) but are a sabbaton (Greek) in that no secular work was allowed and work was to cease and these Holy convocations were days of rest although not a Sabbath from God’s Law (10 commandments) they were a sabbath (sabbaton) as used in the Greek.

Scripture point summary:

1. Blotting out or nailing the handwriting of ordinances to the cross is referring to the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws of Moses which includes all the sin offerings and laws relating to sin offering that pointed to the plan of salvation and Jesus (v14)
2. Jesus at the cross triumphing over principalities and powers (v 15)
3. No one to Judge you in meat and drink, festivals, new moon of the sabbath(s) (v16). Holy-day in the Greek means a festival and sabbath(s) in the Greek in this verse means sabbaton which simply means to cease from secular work and rest. It does not have to mean a 7th Day Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11)
4. The meat and drink, festivals, new moons or of the sabbath(s) are a shadow of things to come (v17)

Context within Col 2:16-17:
(1) meat or drink
(2) feast or festival
(3) new moons
(4) sabbath(s)
(5) Above were shadows of things to come

So the overall context of Col 2:16-17 is in not judging in regards to meat and drink, festivals (feast days), new moons and sabbath(s) that are a part of the civil, ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses (v 14)

Col 2 is talking about the ceremonial laws from Moses which also included the annual festivals of Lev 23; Deut 10; Numb 27 and 28. Now let’s have a look at the Old Testament scriptures to see what Col 2 is talking about. Remember the overall context is in regards to meat and drink, feast days (festivals), new moons and sabbath(s) that are a part of the civil, ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses that were completed and nailed to the cross. If we can find references to the above context of Col 2:16 it will help us to understand what Col 2:14-17 is talking about because these are all shadows that pointed to Jesus.

Old Testament references to Col 2:16-17; with the same scripture context:

Col 2:16-17,
Let no man therefore judge you in (1) meat, or in drink, or in respect of an (2) feastival, or of the (3) new moon, or of the (4) sabbath(s): Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Eze 45:17-21,
It shall be the prince’s duty to furnish the (1) burnt offerings, grain offerings, and drink offerings, at the (2) feasts, the (3) new moons, and the (4) Sabbaths, at all the appointed (2) feasts of the house of Israel: he shall provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings, and peace offerings, to make atonement on behalf of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Thus says the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary: And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court. And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erred, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house. In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the Passover, a Feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.

1Ch 23:31
and whenever (1) burnt offerings were presented to the LORD on the (4) Sabbaths, at the (3) New Moon (2) feasts and at the appointed festivals. They were to serve before the LORD regularly in the proper number and in the way prescribed for them.

2Ch 2:4,
Now I am about to build a temple for the Name of the LORD my God and to dedicate it to him for burning fragrant incense before him, for setting out the consecrated bread regularly, and for making (1) burnt offerings every morning and evening and on the (4) Sabbaths, at the (3) New Moons and at the appointed (2) festivals of the LORD our God. This is a lasting ordinance for Israel.

Hos 2:11,
I will stop all her celebrations: her (2) yearly festivals, her (3) New Moons, her (4) Sabbaths and all her (2) appointed festivals.

It is interesting to note in the Old Testament the word Sabbath (shabbath 7676 from shabath 7673 meaning “rest”) is not only used for the weekly Sabbath but is also applied to the first and last days of the annual Jewish Festivals. The Greek Word used in Col 2:16 is Sabbaton simply means to cease from secular work; rest.

The monthly New Moon Sabbaths in relation to these festivals as well as the Holy convocations (Sabbaton to cease from work and rest) could fall on any day of the week depending on the year the festival was starting. The Holy convocations were to start the beginning of the annual Jewish feasts. They were to be rest (Sabbath) days (not to be confused with God’s commandment) and restricted or no work was to be done. (Lev 23; Num 10; 28; 29)

A High Sabbath day however was when I Holy convocation annual feast day falls on the same day as God’s weekly Sabbath commandment (Ex 20:8-11). This is an extension of the term "high day" found in the King James Version at John 19:31-42. The seven festivals do not necessarily occur on weekly Shabbat (seventh-day Sabbath) and are called by the name miqra ("called assembly") in Hebrew (Lev. 23). Three of them occur in spring: the first and seventh days of Pesach (Passover), and Shavuot (Pentecost) which occurs in summer. Three occur in fall, in the seventh month, and are also called shabbaton: Rosh Hashanah (Trumpets); Yom Kippur, the "Sabbath of Sabbaths" (Atonement); and the first and eighth days of Sukkoth (Tabernacles). Sometimes the word shabbaton is extended to mean all seven festivals. The Gospel of John says of the night immediately following Christ's burial that "that sabbath day was a high day" (19:31-42). That night was Nisan 15, just after the first day of Passover week (Unleavened Bread) and an annual miqra and rest day, in most chronologies. The King James Version may thus be the origin of naming the annual rest days "High Sabbaths" in English (source: wiki).

All of the above have their origin from the ceremonial laws of Moses found in Lev 23; Num 10; 28; 29. All these references are in connection to; (1) Food and Drink offerings, (2) Feast days, (3) New Moons and (4) annual feast Sabbath(s)

So in summary, it should be very clear that Col 2:14-17 is referring to the ceremonial laws of Moses along with the annual Jewish feast days that all pointed to the coming of Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross the Jewish feasts along with the burnt offerings, food and drink offerings, festivals and New Moon festival Sabbath(s) which all pointed to Jesus where a shadow of things to come. Many of the feast days (holy convocations) in Lev 23 where no work days in the Greek Col 2:16 were Sabbaton cease from secular work and rest.

Col 2:14-17 is referring to the ceremonial laws of Moses in the annual ceremonial Feast days of Lev 23; Deut and Numbers that all pointed to Jesus and were nailed to the Cross including the annual new moon feast Sabbaths that could fall on any day of the week.

Line upon line and Precept upon precept.....

What is the difference between God's 7th Day weekly Sabbath commandment (Ex 20:8-11) and the annual ceremonial Sabbaths for feast days of Col 2:16?

As mentioned earlier to help understand the difference between these days you need to understand the purposes of the two laws, 1. God’s Law and 2. The ceremonial laws of Moses. As mentioned shown above

(1) God’s Law reveals what sin and righteousness (right doing) is and the describes the penalty for sin (Rom 3:20; 1 John 3:4; Rom 6:23). It was never a cure for sin. But it was the work of God which is forever and the foundation of the Old Covenant, the New Covenant and the Judgement to come.

Scripture proof:
Ex 32:16; Ex 31:18; 31:18; Ex 20:1-22; Deut 10:5; Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23; Heb 7:19; Ecc 12:13-14, James 2:10-12, 1John 3:4, Acts 17:31; Ps 111:7-8; Rev 12:17; 14:12; 22:14; 1 John 3:5-8; 1 John 2:3-4; Ecc 3:14

(2) The laws of Moses was the prescriptive cure for sin with all the Levitical and ceremonial laws, burnt offerings for sin, annual feast days foretelling the plan of salvation which were connected to Feast days with New Moon sabbaths, food and drink offerings and other Holy days. These where all types pointing to Jesus and the plan of salvation and provided a cure for sin through animal sacrifice and food and drink offerings and yearly sin atonements for God’s people.

Scripture proof:
Lev 1:1-13; Lev 23:1-44; Num 28:1-31; 29:1-40; Deut 24:10-11; Ex 24:3; Deut 31:24-26; Col 2:16-16; Heb 10:1; Eph 2:14-15; Lev 4; 5; 6; Heb 4:14; 9;10; John 1:29; not exhaustive there are many more.

Every Old Testament scripture reference in connection to Col 2:16 is in relation to (1) burnt offerings; (2) Sabbaths held at the New Moon feasts and at the appointed festivals and (3) food and drink offerings. The context is referring to the annual ceremonial feast days described in Leviticus Chapter 23; Numbers chapters 28 and 29. As mentioned earlier these were all done away at the cross because they were Shadows of an unfinished work that was completed at the death of Jesus (Col 2:14-17).

For more scripture please see COL 2:14-17 THE REAL TRUTH thread linked which compare the OT AND NT scriptures...

So nope you have not made a case...........

Where in God's Word does it say that the 4th commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are NOW COMMANDED to Keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

Hope the above scriptures are helpful. May God bless you as you seek Him through His Word....

 

[Ahwatukee]

Here we have and end time prophecy, where the King seems to think the Sabbath is still valid in the end times. Maybe those who disagree need to tell the King He is wrong?


Mat 24:20, “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, nor on the Sabbath Day.”





Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Hello Hizikyah,

The reason for the mention of the Sabbath in Matt.24, is because seventy seven year periods were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem as described in Dan.9:24-27. Since 69 of those seven year periods were fulfilled when the Messiah was cut off at the end of the 69th seven, there remains one seven year period, which will be fulfilled in conjunction with the Lord's return to end the age.

When the Messiah was cut off, the Lord put a hold or paused that last seven years and began to build his church. Once the church has been removed from the earth, God will then pick up right where He left off fulfilling that last seven years, complete with the law, temple, sacrifices and offerings. This has nothing to do with the church, but will be a fulfillment of that decree for Israel and Jerusalem.

 

[Endoscopy]

Quoting scripture about the Sabbath doesn't change the fact that the early church worshipped on Sunday.

 

[JaumeJ]

Where is it declared the first day of the week is the Sabbath?

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe many of you are confusing the seventh day with the day you choose to worsip as the Sabbath of the Lord.

God rested from His works on the seventh dayafter His six days of creating al that is. This has not changed. God has not announced aything to this effect.

Think and do not follow the teachings of men in place of God's Word. That is not only wrong it is perverse.

 

[beta]

Quoting scripture about the Sabbath doesn't change the fact that the early church worshipped on Sunday.

By that you mean those after the original Disciples who were all sabbath-keepers. When those were persecuted and killed the coast was clear for UNGODLY men to enter and pervert the Word of God. Neither God or Yahshua ever changed the sabbath...men did who were not authorized to do so !

 

[JaumeJ]

Which is more convincing, quoting the traditions made by mankind or quoting the Words of god?

Quoting scripture about the Sabbath doesn't change the fact that the early church worshipped on Sunday.

 

[garee]

The first day of the week is when God said let there be light. As new creatures children of light .Now that the work was finished signaled by the renting of the veil the new eras of Sabbaths has entered in.

The word Sabbath means rest . It is not s subject to time. Today if we hear his voice and harden not our hearts we have enter his Sabbath rest.

Its first of new era of Sabbaths plural .Not the first day of the week a word not used in the new testament .

Why change it into a time sensitive word?

Matthew 28Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
28 And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre,