Salvation, Works, The Spirit, and The Bible.
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I suggest you re-read Galatians without the loss of salvation blinders on.....
a. Those who teach faith/works salvation = false teachers, and a double cursed gospel of a different kind
b. Those who buy into such drivel = foolish and deceived
Those who have been saved, justified, sealed and sanctified in Christ have been saved, sealed, justified and sanctified eternally having been born of INCORRUPTABLE SEED
a. Those who teach faith/works salvation = false teachers, and a double cursed gospel of a different kind
b. Those who buy into such drivel = foolish and deceived
Those who have been saved, justified, sealed and sanctified in Christ have been saved, sealed, justified and sanctified eternally having been born of INCORRUPTABLE SEED
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LOL! Easy to say "this can never happen" - but when you have a close relative who this has happened to and I know very well he was saved, your line of saying "but in all reality they were never of Christ" makes no sense at all.
You may say, "you cannot judge eternal destiny and say that your relative was saved". And you are right - God determines eternal destiny. But you started it by saying the opposite! That my relative could not have been saved! What right do you have to make that judgment!?
You may say, "you cannot judge eternal destiny and say that your relative was saved". And you are right - God determines eternal destiny. But you started it by saying the opposite! That my relative could not have been saved! What right do you have to make that judgment!?
I suggest you re-read and then take time to understand......serious......here....let me re-post.....maybe take time without the blinders on this time man......and the logical CONCLUSION IS>>>>>>>>???????????????
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
For salvation to be lost the following must occur.....
1. Jesus is a liar
a. I will never leave you nor forsake you
b. All that the Father hath given me I will lose nothing, but raise it up the last day
2. The Power of God is weak, inept and must fail
a. We are KEPT by the power of GOD through faith
3. Christ is weak and fails in his work of faith
a. Jesus is the BEGINNER, FINISHER and COMPLETES the work of FAITH HE BEGAN IN US
4. THE words ETERNAL and EVERLASTING are LIES by GOD and actually MEAN TEMPORAL and CONDITIONAL
a. HE that believes on the son is HAVING EVERLASTING LIFE
b. ....AND I GIVE UNTO THEN ETERNAL LIFE
5. The SEALING of the HOLY SPIRIT is UNDONE and GOD LIED
a. SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION by the HOLY SPIRIT of PROMISE
6. GOD LIED AGAIN because the seed we are BORN of is CORRUPTABLE
a. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
7. John is a liar when he writes we may KNOW we have eternal life (see point 4)
a. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
8. God lied again when he inspired...
a. NOTHING shall separate you from the LOVE OF GOD
and ON and ON and ON and ON and ON......
It must be tragic to believe in a weak, inept god that cannot keep his word, his promises and one whose power is unable to keep you saved after he saved you at YOUR WORST and while in a totally LOST STATE!
For salvation to be lost the following must occur.....
1. Jesus is a liar
a. I will never leave you nor forsake you
b. All that the Father hath given me I will lose nothing, but raise it up the last day
2. The Power of God is weak, inept and must fail
a. We are KEPT by the power of GOD through faith
3. Christ is weak and fails in his work of faith
a. Jesus is the BEGINNER, FINISHER and COMPLETES the work of FAITH HE BEGAN IN US
4. THE words ETERNAL and EVERLASTING are LIES by GOD and actually MEAN TEMPORAL and CONDITIONAL
a. HE that believes on the son is HAVING EVERLASTING LIFE
b. ....AND I GIVE UNTO THEN ETERNAL LIFE
5. The SEALING of the HOLY SPIRIT is UNDONE and GOD LIED
a. SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION by the HOLY SPIRIT of PROMISE
6. GOD LIED AGAIN because the seed we are BORN of is CORRUPTABLE
a. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
7. John is a liar when he writes we may KNOW we have eternal life (see point 4)
a. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.
8. God lied again when he inspired...
a. NOTHING shall separate you from the LOVE OF GOD
and ON and ON and ON and ON and ON......
It must be tragic to believe in a weak, inept god that cannot keep his word, his promises and one whose power is unable to keep you saved after he saved you at YOUR WORST and while in a totally LOST STATE!
This is possible. We have whole groups of so-called believers living for Christ that haven't been given the Holy Spirit. They only think they are doing God's will. The faith I have God has put there, and nothing can take it away. It has been tried in the fiery furnace of reality.
