Shoud I ask a girl out?

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Jason0047

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I will say one thing about you and that is that you are resilient and can obviously take a punch. I am sure that no one on this thread was condoning sin.
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To love our brother means to care about their well being. I do not want any harm in any way shape or form to happen to Dave. So I must tell him to walk the straight and narrow even though I know he has a liberty in Christ to date an unbeliever with the intention of evangelizing them. For me, I would not take the risk. I would just send her a Bible tract (Like a Chick Tract Comic) and if I know she accepted the Lord, then I would pray to the Lord if I should then ask her out or not.

I believe those who think I am over-reacting to the worse case scenario think I am cracked. But what I am really doing is loving Dave. Loving in the fact that I do not want to see him fall prey to any bad thing that can happen to him at prom. For I am sure everyone who has criticized me would be dead silent if Dave came back on here and said her got her pregnant. Now, is there a chance nothing may happen? Sure there is. But there is just an equal chance in something bad happening, too. A life altering type of bad that I think is too great of a risk. But if God is calling upon Dave's heart that he will not be tempted and he is just focused on reaching her with the gospel, then by all means, let God do his work thru Dave. Everyone is different, of course. But I would be negligent or uncaring if I did not warn Dave of the potential dangers involved in dating an unbeliever so as to witness to them. So yes, in a way I think they are approving of sin. For they do not seem to care about the bad that can happen to Dave (Which is being unloving towards one's brother and their spiritual well being with God). They seem to think that such a thing is nearly impossible. But we both know that is not the case.
 
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Jason0047 said:
To love our brother means to care about their well being. I do not want any harm in any way shape or form to happen to Dave. So I must tell him to walk the straight and narrow even though I know he has a liberty in Christ to date an unbeliever with the intention of evangelizing them. For me, I would not take the risk. I would just send her a Bible tract (Like a Chick Tract Comic) and if I know she accepted the Lord, then I would pray to the Lord if I should then ask her out or not.

I believe those who think I am over-reacting to the worse case scenario think I am cracked. But what I am really doing is loving Dave. Loving in the fact that I do not want to see him fall prey to any bad thing that can happen to him at prom. For I am sure everyone who has criticized me would be dead silent if Dave came back on here and said her got her pregnant. Now, is there a chance nothing may happen? Sure there is. But there is just an equal chance in something bad happening, too. A life altering type of bad that I think is too great of a risk. But if God is calling upon Dave's heart that he will not be tempted and he is just focused on reaching her with the gospel, then by all means, let God do his work thru Dave. Everyone is different, of course. But I would be negligent or uncaring if I did not warn Dave of the potential dangers involved in dating an unbeliever so as to witness to them. So yes, in a way I think they are approving of sin. For they do not seem to care about the bad that can happen to Dave. They seem to think that such a thing is nearly impossible. But we both know that is not the case.
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Jason I don't think anyone wants to see Dave fall. I hope we can all agree on that part.
 
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Jason I don't think anyone wants to see Dave fall. I hope we can all agree on that part.
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I really would like to believe that. For I have to ask: Why the push into placing Dave into a bad situation that is not spiritually healthy for an unbeliever? Unless God is calling it upon his heart to do so as an attempt to evangelize her, I do not see how his taking her out will be helpful to him in His walk with the Lord.
 
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Jason,

Should Dave ask the girl to the Prom?
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As I said before. My answer would be a "no." The only exception to that would be if God is moving Dave mightily by His Spirit to lead her to the Lord by him taking her out. However, I am not sure this is the case because he is asking other believers this question so as to obtain guidance.
 
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The Scriptures say we are to flee fornication. Does going on a date with an unbeliever (When you have some level of temptation - even a little) sound like fleeing fornication or sexual sin? I don't think it is. That is why I am encouraging Dave to pray to the Lord and wait upon Him to bring the right person into his life in the Lord's timing and not his own.
 
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Also, what would believers here say to God at the Judgment if something bad did happen to Dave because of their carefree and lose counsel? Would they not be guilty for not caring about Dave's spiritual well being by refusing to give Dave the proper warnings? In other words, I wouldn't send someone swimming into an area that is known to have sharks within it's waters. Why would I want any potential harm to come upon someone? Is not our walk with the Lord and His good ways more precious than this life and it's fleeting temporal pleasures?
 
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Unless you can cover every possible contingency of the bad things that may occur it may be wise to not ever let your kids out of the house less it may rain on them.
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Even more of a reason to train our kids to become Batman.

I rest my case BritishDave.
Become Batman.

If your girl asks if you are really Bruce Wayne then.......say,.... "come on, I'm Batman, not Bruce Wayne...I'm not delusional.":)
 
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After much conversing it's time to vote.


All in favor of Dave asking the girl at school to the prom reply: "Yay."

Those opposed replay: "Nay."

(Original Post) "Hi everyone, I'm 16 and there's a girl at school whom I really like.. I was wondering whether or not I should ask her out / to the prom and I would appreciate your opinion on the matter. As far as I know she's not a Christian but she's nicer than most of the Christians I know and she seems open to religion :) Thanks in advance for the help!"

Votes will be tallied tomorrow.
 
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After much conversing it's time to vote.


All in favor of Dave asking the girl at school to the prom reply: "Yay."

Those opposed replay: "Nay."

(Original Post) "Hi everyone, I'm 16 and there's a girl at school whom I really like.. I was wondering whether or not I should ask her out / to the prom and I would appreciate your opinion on the matter. As far as I know she's not a Christian but she's nicer than most of the Christians I know and she seems open to religion :) Thanks in advance for the help!"

Votes will be tallied tomorrow.
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Dave already answered me yesterday....his answer got lost in the debate.
It wasn't until we made the thread Fun again........then he chimed back in.
He said yes.

I say go for it kid.
 
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This is not really a decision that should go by a human vote. His decision should be based on what the Word of God says and what God is saying to Dave's heart on the matter.
 
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Jason0047 said:
This is not really a decision that should go by a human vote. His decision should be based on what the Word of God says and what God is saying to Dave's heart on the matter.
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Did you go to Prom? Date in HS?

........don't rob the kid.
 
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Did you go to Prom? Date in HS?
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Whether I went to the prom or not has no bearing on this issue. My life is not the measuring stick for spiritual life making choices. Only God's Word is the standard by which we are to adhere to.

........don't rob the kid.
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Rob him of what exactly? A worldly event or a spiritual one? Does not going to the prom mean he will never find his soul mate or never interact with a girl or never dance again? I don't think so, my friend.
 
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Do whatever the Lord leads you to do BritishDave.

Jason just needs a hug.
 
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Let's not split hairs here. There is a huge difference between being kind and friendly to someone when you encounter them versus being overly friendly in the sense of calling them up or trying to visit them when their significant other is not around. For imagine if you are married to the woman of your dreams. Now imagine what it would be like it if your next door neighbor who was super handsome started coming over all the time to chat with your wife while you were not home. How would you feel if you found them laughing and chatting in your house or on your property all the time? What happens if your wife is not home and she is over his house? Would you think that such a thing is not appropriate? Now, there is a certain room for exceptions. Obviously if her car broke down and or it was a special circumstance, this was not be unsual for them to be seen together. But just to hang out and to socialize all the time is not appropriate.
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Depends how much you trust your wife
 
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Do whatever the Lord leads you to do BritishDave.

Jason just needs a hug.
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I think that is what Jason has been trying to say. Dave needs to seek the Lords answer because his say is the only one that does matter.
 
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Hows your relationship with GOD? on an honest point of view?
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Seems healthy, I became a Christian last September and I'm getting baptised on the 22nd ^_^ I pray every evening
 
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Jason0047 said:
I would just send her a Bible tract (Like a Chick Tract Comic) and if I know she accepted the Lord, then I would pray to the Lord if I should then ask her out or not.
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This sounds like a very impersonal way of evangelising.. people are much more likely to come to Christ if a Christian comes alongside them and demonstrates God's love in their life
 
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If God brings a soul mate into a person's life, there is no need to build one's relationship skills. One will naturally do that thru just living life. In time, the fear of talking to women will go away because one is trusting in God and they are fearing him instead of anything or anyone else. They can be themselves in the Lord and be accepted by the one God sent to them. The world says you have to practice in dating until you get it right. Whereas God can simply match two people together from half way around the globe (If that is His will and purpose).

Second, to have a cavalier approach in dating is not smart. One does not just run with any person if they are a believer. For to ignore the dangers of what can happen at the prom and or even in dating is placing yourself into unnecessary harm or risk. You act like the worse case scenario can never happen. But it has happened and it will continue to happen.
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...show many anything biblical about the concept of a "soul mate"
 
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I think that is what Jason has been trying to say. Dave needs to seek the Lords answer because his say is the only one that does matter.
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Thats what my note says that you responded too.:)

Why can't Jason just say that?
BritishDave obviously wanted to keep this thread light......Jason ruined that.
I'm not being a jerk by calling him out.......0047 was being inconsiderate for getting too preachy, on a simple question.
 
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The Scriptures say we are to flee fornication. Does going on a date with an unbeliever (When you have some level of temptation - even a little) sound like fleeing fornication or sexual sin? I don't think it is. That is why I am encouraging Dave to pray to the Lord and wait upon Him to bring the right person into his life in the Lord's timing and not his own.
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So everybody stay inside during summer :) there could be girls in miniskirts, sounds like potential temptation doesn't it Jason?
 
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