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the roman empire was destroyed internally when their two party system became so attack minded they could never come together for fear of aiding the enemy. and slit into two nations,
United we stand, divided we fall. that still stands,
for this reason, the GOP is weak, afraid of offending anyone, and the dems are more socialist. Just trying to by votes anyway they can.
We see this as the libs attack the president in an unprecedented way. Even if the pres did good. the left would attack him, That is where we are.
if we do not unite, we will fall just like rome did,,
United we stand, divided we fall. that still stands,
for this reason, the GOP is weak, afraid of offending anyone, and the dems are more socialist. Just trying to by votes anyway they can.
We see this as the libs attack the president in an unprecedented way. Even if the pres did good. the left would attack him, That is where we are.
if we do not unite, we will fall just like rome did,,
I register as a democrat because, I want to vote in local elections. The few registered republicans here are radical extremist. When it comes to state wide or federal elections, most vote republican. Local politics is a far different animal than state or national politics.
I suggest that all of you forget about the party, and take a long hard look at each candidate. From my standpoint, when I look at a candidate that professes to be a Christian, I usually find that he doesn't meet my expectations from a Christian candidate.
IMHO, Christians should not support any party. The should support Christian candidates. If none are running, vote for the lessor of the evils.
I suggest that all of you forget about the party, and take a long hard look at each candidate. From my standpoint, when I look at a candidate that professes to be a Christian, I usually find that he doesn't meet my expectations from a Christian candidate.
IMHO, Christians should not support any party. The should support Christian candidates. If none are running, vote for the lessor of the evils.
Up until Bush W, we may have disagreed with our presidents but we still respected them. George was the first one to really be openly disrespected and for that to be accepted. Attacks were made upon him not his policies and disagreements became personal not positional. This spirit grew exponentially with Obama, his positions really meant very little because there was so much disrespect for the man. His ideas could have been absolute gold and yet they were going to be ignored and stymied all the way just because of the blind disrespect and anger many had for him. Trouble is, the disrespect shown the man spills over into disrespect for the office. And now we have Trump, and once again the spirit of disrespect has grown. For him, for each other... that is what divides us so angrily. We don't disagree with each other anymore, we disrespect each other now. And it is a force that will tear us apart.
I think this is why the USA does not have a significant role in the end times. We went from the best to the also rans and are sinking into the realm of the has beens. And we are doing it to ourselves because we're too ignorant to not keep voting for more of the same.
I think this is why the USA does not have a significant role in the end times. We went from the best to the also rans and are sinking into the realm of the has beens. And we are doing it to ourselves because we're too ignorant to not keep voting for more of the same.
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I agree, However, We have never seen anything like we see happening to trump. When a man screams at the right, and tells them how hateful they are, then goes and tries to kill a few of them while they are playing baseball. WHo is really the hater?
I hated Obama, I saw him give so much away, and put so many people into a way of life they may not be able to come out of (that's is what socialism does to you, It makes you demand, whether you deserve it or not) But I would never do the things these people do.
I am also retired military, so even though I hated the man, I respected the office, Like we all should.
You do not agree, Then do not vote for him ( I think the republican victory yesterday is showing the country we are fed up)
But I also think we will fall, and agree,, America is most likely short lived. democracy has run its course.
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For those saying this is a question for another forum, I disagree. This is a question of how does the Bible and a Christian worldview work it's way out in a contemporary issue some Christians are faced with. From the USA or not I believe every developed society is faced with secular progressives, liberal views etc. And we need to know how to respond BIBLICALLY to these contemporary issues. I've heard plenty of professing Christians support secular progressives and see no problem with it. This is why it's important to have a biblical worldview and understand how that works itself out in every aspect of life. The biblical worldview is the complete antithesis of the secular progressive and modern day liberal worldview and Christians need to understand that those two are in stark contrast with one another. It's like saying I'm a vegetarian who likes red meat. Our Christian worldview should affect how we vote and who we support.
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Politics is a numbers game - simple as that...
Any suggestion that the USA is a "Christian" country is complete rubbish.
If you want a Biblical response to the problem then get off your heine and get evangelising....
Maybe when 40-50% of Americans are Bible-believing and church-going then maybe the politicians will take you seriously, until then....
Any suggestion that the USA is a "Christian" country is complete rubbish.
If you want a Biblical response to the problem then get off your heine and get evangelising....
Maybe when 40-50% of Americans are Bible-believing and church-going then maybe the politicians will take you seriously, until then....
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I guess a better question would have been how our biblical worldview should dictate how we vote. I just wanted to show the complete incompatibility of the Christian worldview and with the liberal or secular progressive worldview. The left is pretty consistently anti-bible and anti-christian. I think there are SOME conservatives who at least don't blatantly contradict scripture. Whereas most liberals not only accept but celebrate and promote things God calls an l abomination. I just don't see any biblical support for this.
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God can use either party for his agenda. In fact they are subject to him regardless if they pursue his word or not.
Does it matter to vote...yes. The republican party in this past election did support evangelicals and some of their quest on abortion, church and state, and the right to be heard.
Why not vote to make a change towards fundamentalist issues.
I agree that not all are biblically sound but it does bring us closer to the truth.
Does it matter to vote...yes. The republican party in this past election did support evangelicals and some of their quest on abortion, church and state, and the right to be heard.
Why not vote to make a change towards fundamentalist issues.
I agree that not all are biblically sound but it does bring us closer to the truth.