So if you are not under the Law, does that mean you are in lawelessness?

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Blain

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So the axe murdering serial killer who spares your life because he loves you is a good guy? Sorry, I am not buying your version of morality. Any doctrine that allows a person to potentially get away with evil is wrong and you know it. If one is not punished for being lawless, then that would make God unjust.
Then what of you? You seem to think you are sinless that you never sin but you do because you are human because we are in the flesh. so by your own words you should be punished? Many have tried to explain to you how wrong you are about this they have shown you more than enough scripture to prove it and yet your pride and arrogance makes you refuse to accept it. And yes I said pride and arrogance because to believe you are sinless that you never sin is very prideful and very arrogant, not to be mean but simply to tell you the sin you are commiting as we speak.

It is not my place to judge you nor will I act as if I am any better because i'm not I let God deal with you as he will
 
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kennethcadwell

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What is the fulfillment of the law? And what is the first fruit of the spirit?

Exactly as I think this is one thing overlooked as I see constantly people placing both God's moral laws and the written ordinances of the Mosaic laws as one, and saying Jesus did away with or abolished both because they can not see the distinction between the two the scriptures give.

Our Lord Jesus did not say He did away with, abolished, or even fulfilled the law.
What He actually said was that by His love working through us in obeying the 2 greatest commands fulfills the law, not His death on the cross that gives us remission of sins through Him. Apostle Paul reiterates this in Romans 13:9-11 and Romans 3:31 that love in faith establishes, upholds, and thus fulfills the law.

There is still standards believers are to uphold under the new covenant of grace, and we are told over and over again by Paul what we can and can not continue doing under grace in order to receive salvation through Christ.


Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
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Grace means that God does something for me...Law means that I do something for God. God places Holy demands on me, that thru Christ I am able to meet and fulfill on foot in my own life. Not because of any merit to me, but of Gods grace on me, Thru Christ Jesus.

So now deliverance from the law for me comes on me resting on Jesus...Period....Not to overlook the requirenments of the law but fulfill them thru Him.

This is now my fluid victory of the past lived out in my life currently...Rom. 7:12.

So, I must conclude I am wretched to the bone and in my sinful nature will always be. Does it ever flee me from its potential influence? No...but I can live in the Spirit of God and I am free from the slavery that Spirit, the carnal Spirit, has over me. Thus even tho The Old self is still hanging out, It is just a dead ...to my now new me...as God tells us we are born again. Now this new babe in Christ is free from the result of sins death sentence. And the level of victory over sin in Christ is my new selfs claim...is that claim 90% victory over sin? NO! It's 100% victory...or what kind of victory would it be? God says o death where is your victory? where is your sting? We are victorious...God says go and sin no more...wouldn't be fair to ask that if we couldn't right?

I am free to be a slave...to righteousness...The fulfillment of law not the skipping over of it...For the payment must be rendered complete.

THOSE Genuinely in Christ, UNDERSTAND, tis not WHAT I CAN DO FOR GOD, BUT ITS what GOD HAS DONE FOR ME! this irriates the modern day pharisees' and Scribes, because its all about 'their works' being justified in Christ,

Good works FOLLOW, af christ cruciifed.jpg ter Genuine Conversion As God Works in and thru the Believer, to do the Pleasure of His Good will, this Decreed from the Foundation of the World, and is Grounded in the Righteousness of God, which is by Faith in Him, IMPUTED BY THE FATHER TO THE CONVERT, not works to be made righteousness, that is WHERE many miss the Mark!

What has God done for me? HE TASTED PHYSICAL DEATH FOR ME at the Tree... He died in My Place.. He Gave Himself for Me...... oh the GREATNESS OF THAT LOVE.. on a personal level, will melt the hardest of Hearts! the Revelation of that Goodness! Indeed!
 
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there is work to do, and Law to obey. :)

love God, do as He says, and one thing He says... serve and love one another.
love others as Christ has loved us.
die to self to live to Christ.

other people, man. these are the good works God does through us. :)
they aren't a vertical transaction between us and God.
Christ put away any need for that, thank God forever!
because we could never, ever have accomplished it for ourselves.

selah. ♥
 
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THOSE Genuinely in Christ, UNDERSTAND, tis not WHAT I CAN DO FOR GOD, BUT ITS what GOD HAS DONE FOR ME! this irriates the modern day pharisees' and Scribes, because its all about 'their works' being justified in Christ,

Good works FOLLOW, af View attachment 108755 ter Genuine Conversion As God Works in and thru the Believer, to do the Pleasure of His Good will, this Decreed from the Foundation of the World, and is Grounded in the Righteousness of God, which is by Faith in Him, IMPUTED BY THE FATHER TO THE CONVERT, not works to be made righteousness, that is WHERE many miss the Mark!

What has God done for me? HE TASTED PHYSICAL DEATH FOR ME at the Tree... He died in My Place.. He Gave Himself for Me...... oh the GREATNESS OF THAT LOVE.. on a personal level, will melt the hardest of Hearts! the Revelation of that Goodness! Indeed!
Amen my friend. God is love.
 
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THATS----> why the Preaching of Christ Crucified, is always the STANDARD, OR THE Foundation of the Gospel of Christ, and it HAS TO BE FOR THE GENUINE CONVERT! because it NULLIFIES the 'pride' of man, his attempts to climb up some other way, even when 'claiming to know christ' lolz.. so very evident today! you see who is 'working their way to Heaven'.. very very evident

But We Preach Christ Crucified! the Wisdom, Power, Sanctification, and REDEMPTION of God! indeed! to God be the Glory!

Strength Made Perfect in Weakness! indeed!
 
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sltaylor

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Grace means that God does something for me...Law means that I do something for God. God places Holy demands on me, that thru Christ I am able to meet and fulfill on foot in my own life. Not because of any merit to me, but of Gods grace on me, Thru Christ Jesus.

So now deliverance from the law for me comes on me resting on Jesus...Period....Not to overlook the requirenments of the law but fulfill them thru Him.

This is now my fluid victory of the past lived out in my life currently...Rom. 7:12.

So, I must conclude I am wretched to the bone and in my sinful nature will always be. Does it ever flee me from its potential influence? No...but I can live in the Spirit of God and I am free from the slavery that Spirit, the carnal Spirit, has over me. Thus even tho The Old self is still hanging out, It is just dead ...to my now new me...as God tells us we are born again. Now this new babe in Christ is free from the result of sins death sentence. And the level of victory over sin in Christ is my new selfs claim...is that claim 90% victory over sin? NO! It's 100% victory...or what kind of victory would it be? God says o death where is your victory? where is your sting? We are victorious...God says go and sin no more...wouldn't be fair to ask that if we couldn't right?

I am free to be a slave...to righteousness...The fulfillment of law not the skipping over of it...For the payment must be rendered complete. I agree with you..
*So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law,*but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.*
I dont know any other way to say this. From this one verse there are two different laws. When Paul is saying be dead to sin, he is saying put to death the sinful nature, the law of sin that lives in the flesh. By Grace we can overcome the power of the flesh to be led by the spirit. Put to death the earthly nature. By Grace we have the power to overcome the law of the flesh, thus him saying we are not under law (led by the earthly nature), which simply means that we can rise above it. The whole chapter is about sin. So this is the law he is talking about. Put to death the earthly nature, become led by the spirit. This entire chapter and the next as well is about rising above the power of sin and putting that to death.
What makes more sense, being under the law of the spirit, or being under the law of sin at work in our flesh, and which one should we not be under. The flesh is hostile to God's law, therefore Jesus destroyed the hostility between our natural body and the spirit, so that we could be one in spirit and body, just like the illustration of marriage Paul uses : the two become 1 flesh, you are either led by the natural, or led by the spirit, and he was giving an encouraging reminder that Jesus defeated the power of sin.
 
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So the axe murdering serial killer who spares your life because he loves you is a good guy? Sorry, I am not buying your version of morality. Any doctrine that allows a person to potentially get away with evil is wrong and you know it. If one is not punished for being lawless, then that would make God unjust.
Jason, why do you continue to insist on this way of thinking when those OSAS believers, you have so much trouble with, do not continue in sin that grace may abound! The one who judges the axe murdering serial killer does not understand how ready God is to be merciful to sinners. His actions are condemned and his sin has been crucified, but will you be the one who extends the mercy and grace of God when God brings his heart to that place of contrition? David was an adulterer and a murderer and did not acknowledge his sin until the prophet Nathan made it known to him in (2 Sam 12) and the Lord had PUT AWAY his sin. I don't think you would have had much to do with David knowing of these two 'cardinal sins' that David was a partaker of, let alone being subject to anything he would teach thereafter, especially teaching transgressors the way of the Lord and converting sinners (Psalm 51:13).

Do you believe in complete restoration after the fact? We see many leaders who have fallen into some form of sin and error and instead of restoring them back to the call of God they are put on probation. Is that what God did to you when he saved you and forgave you of your sin? Who are these that decide that God's man needs to be put on a leash of probation and monitor his behavior as it becometh a Christian? It's as if God has not put away his sin. Did Jesus put away the sin of the adulterous woman who was caught in the act of adultery in (John 8) when he said, 'Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more? Was that probation or was that the grace of God ministered to her, giving her the strength to go and not continue in that sin?
 
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No. And let no man think so lest he deceive himself. Let also no man think he can be justified by the works of the law.
It has nothing to do with being justified by the Law. Paul says he establishes the law. Jesus says to those He does not know to depart from Him because they work iniquity or Lawlessness. For that is what iniquity is. Lawlessness. One is not justified by the Law of Moses. One does not get their self right with God by doing a good work. They get right by the blood of the Lamb by repenting of their sin. Then they will have his blood as an active agent upon them when continue in His goodness that He works thru them.
 
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It has nothing to do with being justified by the Law. Paul says he establishes the law. Jesus says to those He does not know to depart from Him because they work iniquity or Lawlessness. For that is what iniquity is. Lawlessness. One is not justified by the Law of Moses. One does not get their self right with God by doing a good work. They get right by the blood of the Lamb by repenting of their sin. Then they will have his blood as an active agent upon them when continue in His goodness that He works thru them.
doesn't this make salvation contingent upon us?

yes, the saints will persevere. but it is God who sees to that. :)
 

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It has nothing to do with being justified by the Law. Paul says he establishes the law. Jesus says to those He does not know to depart from Him because they work iniquity or Lawlessness. For that is what iniquity is. Lawlessness. One is not justified by the Law of Moses. One does not get their self right with God by doing a good work. They get right by the blood of the Lamb by repenting of their sin. Then they will have his blood as an active agent upon them when continue in His goodness that He works thru them.
Please expound.
 
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doesn't this make salvation contingent upon us?

yes, the saints will persevere. but it is God who sees to that. :)


Saints PERSEVERE , AND are Kept in Christ, because God 'keeps' them... this not based on man's abilities.. no , You are Led of the Spirit, and Kept in Christ by the Father.. indeed!


Now UNTO----> HIM that is 'able ' to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the Presence of His Glory with exceeding joy, jUDE 1 : 24

the Saint Perseveres and is Kept in Him, because God is ABLE, not based on his/her works to 'keep' oneself, that is a man made salvation.... the word ABLE there is 1410 Dunamis- Holy Ghost power, that is not man made power but it comes from the Father, God is ABLE to keep you... man says, I AM ABLE TO KEEP MYSELF AND PERSEVERE.. thats not what the Word Tells us! indeed!
 
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So if you are not under the Law, does that mean you are in lawelessness?
Lawlessness is being without the law. But the law is for the lawless. Being under is the works of the law without faith. If vain faith kicks the law out on purpose, then one is under its condemnation. This truth is inescapable. If true faith is established, so is the law established in the heart of the faithful.

Excerpts taken from the book “Delegation of Authority Order from God to Christians.”

Man faces unlimited liability; his sins have temporal and eternal consequences, and he cannot at any point escape God.

If we could look anywhere and not be confronted with the revelation of God, then we could not sin in the Biblical sense of the term. (Romans 4:15) Nevertheless, sin is the breaking of the “law of God.” (1 John 3:4) God confronts us everywhere. God cannot confront us anywhere unless He confronts us everywhere. God is ONE! His law is ONE! If we could press a button so we didn't need to hear God's voice, we would always press the same button over and over again. Our button of self consciousness cannot be pushed without hearing the requirement of God.

Those who desire to reverse this say God is liable if He doesn't meet one's expectations. They say that their own experience pronounces that they are saved without any liability, and the magic formula is “I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior” then the mind of man transfers almost all liability to Christ and can believe any way they desire without almost any liability. The truth is that God cannot be accepted if His sovereignty, His law, and His word are denied.

This distorted form of Christianity seems to have begun around 144 AD with “Marcionism” theology. The distortion of the law (by the tactics of the adversary) was first tried through the hypocritical Pharisees doctrine during Jesus' day. That didn't work, so why not just get rid of it altogether and accomplish the same results? Marcion's teachings departed from traditional Christianity in a number of ways. Most dramatically, perhaps, Marcion rejected the idea that the Old Testament God and the New Testament God were the same being. Up until then, the traditional Church had considered the Old Testament to be sacred and assumed that Christianity was a fulfillment or continuation of Judaism. Today, anti law people resort to name calling such as Judaizer and legalizer and have in actuality adopted most of this Marcion philosophy. Marcion's rejection of that idea affected many different doctrines and beliefs.

Some will quote Ephesians 2:8-9 and say that being saved is not of works but of faith alone. Believe it or not, to deny the law is to accept a works religion, because it means denying God's sovereignty and assuming man's existence in independence of God's total law and government. (Think about what the philosophy of “separation of church and state” has done in the United States. It certainly has not assisted in righteousness, but just the opposite. It's in our face!) In a world where God functions only to remove the liability of hell, and no righteous law governs man, we work our own way through life by our own conscience. We then are saved by our own work of faith, of accepting Christ, not by Christ's sovereign acceptance of us. Christ said “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you.” Christ in such a faith, serves as an insurance agent, as a guarantee against liabilities, not as sovereign Lord. This is paganism in Christ's name.

The world is a battlefield, and there are casualties and wounds in battle, but the battle is the Lord's and its end is victory. To attempt an escape from the battle is to flee from the liabilities of warfare against sinful men ending up by inadvertently declaring war against an angry God. To face the battle is to suffer the penalties of man's wrath and the blessings of God's grace and law.
 

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Then what of you? You seem to think you are sinless that you never sin but you do because you are human because we are in the flesh. so by your own words you should be punished? Many have tried to explain to you how wrong you are about this they have shown you more than enough scripture to prove it and yet your pride and arrogance makes you refuse to accept it. And yes I said pride and arrogance because to believe you are sinless that you never sin is very prideful and very arrogant, not to be mean but simply to tell you the sin you are commiting as we speak.

It is not my place to judge you nor will I act as if I am any better because i'm not I let God deal with you as he will
blain, this is what happens when you categorize sin as bad, really bad, sin unto death. in other words, me making a list of do's and don'ts and attempting to keep MY list makes ME holy and anyone does not agree with ME and keep MY list is in danger of hell. notice the emphasis on a certain word.
 
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Then what of you? You seem to think you are sinless that you never sin but you do because you are human because we are in the flesh. so by your own words you should be punished? Many have tried to explain to you how wrong you are about this they have shown you more than enough scripture to prove it and yet your pride and arrogance makes you refuse to accept it. And yes I said pride and arrogance because to believe you are sinless that you never sin is very prideful and very arrogant, not to be mean but simply to tell you the sin you are commiting as we speak.

It is not my place to judge you nor will I act as if I am any better because i'm not I let God deal with you as he will
I do not think I am sinless. I have sinned in the past. But I do not sin as a way of life. I also believe it is possible to cease from sin because I have done it. I know what it is like to not be a slave to sin. Now, does that mean I will forever be perfect? Only the Lord knows. But Galatians 5:24 says those that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts. 1 Peter 4:1 says those who have suffered in the flesh have ceased from sin. Peter talks about how the false prophets are those who cannot cease from sin (2 Peter 2:1, 14). So you tell me? Is Scripture lying or do you not want Scripture to be true? Are you seeking another interpretation on those verses that goes beyond the plain written meaning to justify a false theology?

Also, many have tried to explain how wrong I am does not mean a spit of beans. In fact, what they believe is the majority church view. But Jesus said it is not the wide gate but the narrow gate that leads unto life. Oh, and no. They did not show me Scripture in it's context. They will ignore the context every time and they will twist the many warning passages to the Believer in the Bible, too.

As for pride and arrogrance: Well, a believer that holds to a sin and still be saved doctrine can't steal something that is from the camp of moralty when they really do not stand for morality or God's goodness. That would be cheating. Morals cannot be used for somebody that does not really support true morality.
 
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Lawlessness is being without the law. But the law is for the lawless. Being under is the works of the law without faith. If vain faith kicks the law out on purpose, then one is under its condemnation. This truth is inescapable. If true faith is established, so is the law established in the heart of the faithful.

Excerpts taken from the book “Delegation of Authority Order from God to Christians.”

Man faces unlimited liability; his sins have temporal and eternal consequences, and he cannot at any point escape God.

If we could look anywhere and not be confronted with the revelation of God, then we could not sin in the Biblical sense of the term. (Romans 4:15) Nevertheless, sin is the breaking of the “law of God.” (1 John 3:4) God confronts us everywhere. God cannot confront us anywhere unless He confronts us everywhere. God is ONE! His law is ONE! If we could press a button so we didn't need to hear God's voice, we would always press the same button over and over again. Our button of self consciousness cannot be pushed without hearing the requirement of God.

Those who desire to reverse this say God is liable if He doesn't meet one's expectations. They say that their own experience pronounces that they are saved without any liability, and the magic formula is “I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior” then the mind of man transfers almost all liability to Christ and can believe any way they desire without almost any liability. The truth is that God cannot be accepted if His sovereignty, His law, and His word are denied.

This distorted form of Christianity seems to have begun around 144 AD with “Marcionism” theology. The distortion of the law (by the tactics of the adversary) was first tried through the hypocritical Pharisees doctrine during Jesus' day. That didn't work, so why not just get rid of it altogether and accomplish the same results? Marcion's teachings departed from traditional Christianity in a number of ways. Most dramatically, perhaps, Marcion rejected the idea that the Old Testament God and the New Testament God were the same being. Up until then, the traditional Church had considered the Old Testament to be sacred and assumed that Christianity was a fulfillment or continuation of Judaism. Today, anti law people resort to name calling such as Judaizer and legalizer and have in actuality adopted most of this Marcion philosophy. Marcion's rejection of that idea affected many different doctrines and beliefs.

Some will quote Ephesians 2:8-9 and say that being saved is not of works but of faith alone. Believe it or not, to deny the law is to accept a works religion, because it means denying God's sovereignty and assuming man's existence in independence of God's total law and government. (Think about what the philosophy of “separation of church and state” has done in the United States. It certainly has not assisted in righteousness, but just the opposite. It's in our face!) In a world where God functions only to remove the liability of hell, and no righteous law governs man, we work our own way through life by our own conscience. We then are saved by our own work of faith, of accepting Christ, not by Christ's sovereign acceptance of us. Christ said “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you.” Christ in such a faith, serves as an insurance agent, as a guarantee against liabilities, not as sovereign Lord. This is paganism in Christ's name.

The world is a battlefield, and there are casualties and wounds in battle, but the battle is the Lord's and its end is victory. To attempt an escape from the battle is to flee from the liabilities of warfare against sinful men ending up by inadvertently declaring war against an angry God. To face the battle is to suffer the penalties of man's wrath and the blessings of God's grace and law.
That was so well said. We are absolutely under God's law, but they are written in our hearts and minds. Laws are written for law breakers, so that they may be held accountable before witnesses. God himself testifies he writes his laws in our hearts and minds, and we are not under Law?
The law of sin at work in our flesh is the ONLY LAW Paul was saying we were not under. Thats what the whole chapter is about. People see one word "Law" and assume he was talking about Moses. The whole chapter is about sin, and law of sin waging war against the law of the spirit. Paul even testifies: "*No, I beat my body and*make it my slave*so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize." He says he beat his body so he wouldn't be disqualified. It's all about sin. It's all about not sinning, that's God's will for us, and the only way to honor the sacrifice that was made. Make yourselves a living sacrifice, beat your body, overcome sin, and honor the one who died for you, do this life in remembrance of him, partake of this body, the body of Christ, the bread, and live in him, and him in you.
 
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John tells us not to sin and if we do sin we have an advocate that we can go to named Jesus Christ -----> 1 John 2:1
Whereby we confess our sins and are forgiven of sin ------> 1 John 1:9
For if we walk in the light as he is in the light, then the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin -------> 1 John 1:7

But who does the "good work" in a believer's life? Is it God? Or is it the believer? Well, Scripture tells us that God (Christ) is the One who does the work within a believer.

Philippians 1:6
Philippians 1:11
Philippians 2:13
Philippians 4:13
1 Corinthians 15:10 KJV
Hebrews 12:1, 2
Hebrews 13:21
Isaiah 26:12
1 John 4:12
Galatians 5:22, 23, 24 (cf. Matthew 7:16, 18, Matthew 19:17)
John 15:5
Ezekiel 36:26, 27

For that is why the 24 elders cast their crowns down before Jesus (Revelation 4:10). For the crowns they received for their good work was all the result of Christ working in them.

Yeah, but doesn't a believer do the work, too? Now, yes, it is true; A believer is created unto Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10); And a believer is indeed held accountable by their "good works" here upon this Earth at a Judgment. But we must also realize that true believers are not ultimately doing these "good works" alone or of their own power, though. For in 1 Corinthians 15:10 Paul said that he labored more than all of his brethren, yet he said it was not him that labored but it was the grace of God that was within him. So true believer's are just choosing to allow God's "good work" to flow within them or not.

This is important to understand because Jesus saves us both in Justification and in Sanctification.
For Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Yet, we have to yield to Christ and the good work He wants to do within us, though.

If we do not yield to Christ, then we are proving we are following ourselives and our sin and not Jesus.
For Jesus says you cannot serve two masters, for you will hate the one and love the other.
 

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So the axe murdering serial killer who spares your life because he loves you is a good guy? Sorry, I am not buying your version of morality. Any doctrine that allows a person to potentially get away with evil is wrong and you know it. If one is not punished for being lawless, then that would make God unjust.
So the Bible allows us to get away with evil, because we are forgiven? We have all done wrong, and as a Christian God has forgiven us. We are not going to experience spiritual death because we have been forgiven. So we have gotten away with evil, therefore The Bible is evil? I am sorry, I don't accept this logic.
 

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It has nothing to do with being justified by the Law. Paul says he establishes the law. Jesus says to those He does not know to depart from Him because they work iniquity or Lawlessness. For that is what iniquity is. Lawlessness. One is not justified by the Law of Moses. One does not get their self right with God by doing a good work. They get right by the blood of the Lamb by repenting of their sin. Then they will have his blood as an active agent upon them when continue in His goodness that He works thru them.
To discuss what the works of the law actually are is one thing which is all fine. But the Bible does not chop up the law of God as you do into parts, or whatever you wish to call it. It speaks of one divine law that one divine man kept perfectly. Then you are all too worried that the freedom in Christ would lead people into sinful lifestyles or that someone who is a christian and has fallen cannot be raised up again from the ditch.
 
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Jason;
The law and the ten commandments are perfect, of that there is no doubt because they came from God.

What we need to understand for those who don't, is that God gave the law not with the expectations of man could follow them, but in knowing that he could never follow them for under the law you follow it all or nothing. There is no leniency from one to another part of the law. All or nothing.
They were given as a precursor to the coming of Christ, so we could understand that the only way to the kingdom of heaven is through the grace of Christs' sacrifice and not through the perfection of the law.

God wasn't sitting up there saying, hmmmm, ok maybe i should give them my perfect laws so they will know how to get the keys to my kingdom, and when that didn't work, he then says, hmmmmm, that didn't work, maybe i'll send my son down now and see if that works.

Oh my no people, Gods' plan was set forth since the before the beginning of the world. He gave his laws to be as a schoolmaster to teach us how we could never achieve his works expectation to get into his kingdom, so when he then sent his son Christ Jesus, the mystery of his grace could be revealed to us through the sacrifice and resurrection of his only son Christ Jesus.

God bless
 
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